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[humaneatingmonkey]

the only apology ill accept is a win

dont fucking sleep, town. wake up. WAKE UP. the game is rich in re-read. THINK IN LAYERS AND WINCON, NOT HOW SCARY SOMEONE IS.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i think i needed eliminating before ELo but not before STD.

why not before StD?
who isn't going to push StD tomorrow?

bro you eliminated someome who pushed scum twice in a row, i do not want to underestimate how bad you guys will ne

[humaneatingmonkey]

like super annoying how the worst makes this case for me. but not for std when it's absolutely possible to slide in that pov

you guys didnt because you felt confident. so do not listen to your instincts and feelings, your instincts and feelings failed you. just be as factual and probabilistic.

[Elements]

I don't feel that confident
you said yourself that you need to go before limlo so

[the worst]

i really hope this is a melodramatic loss speech and if it is it's golden

hem do u think it's just dragons? if you're town your case & broader read there are, like, flimsy and i'm not super motivated. i can totally go there. i just don't think this game is winnable while the WIFOM of you being here is a thing.

[the worst]

also sunk cost is literally my middle name if this game goes on, el & i will slay it overnight

[humaneatingmonkey]

std -> gerain

it's not flimsy you just didnt want to listen. i presented everything i can, you acknowledged them and went back to tunnelling on me and scammed yourself into thinking std cant ever be scum

[the worst]

dragons can be scum it's like. just very boring and a bit goofy.

[humaneatingmonkey]

fucking win this or ill be duckeatingmonkey

[the worst]

just did, lovely monkey

[humaneatingmonkey]

he's not scum, and you're dangerous.

i have a cute picture of you here fitting inside std's pocket

[humaneatingmonkey]

just did, lovely monkey

HAH

[the worst]

like just for a treat, on day one i'm seeing --

162 - i liked klick picking semantic fights about their daisy reads at clidd after clidd townread him.
328 - furtive says klick has "some towny stuff" which is.. like.. bad distancing
500 - greeting asks furtive for reads on 4 players: self, el, klick, roden. in 520 - furtive asks "why those players?". in 597 greeting votes furtive for asking that. if... this includes the entire scumteam that feels like such a goofy way to fumble that conversation.
639 - if klick is scum, he has the entire scumteam in his null reads (gerain/greeting/furtive/hem null)
647 - furtive answers greeting's question, his read on klick is pretty jank (but all his reads are jank).
700 - greeting asks furtive to expand on his townread of klick. which is another really clumsy interaction if this is the entire scumteam. oopsie has also, at this point, asked people to explain why they like greeting.
711 - furtive says he's not annoyed, and questions the point of greeting asking all these questions about players he isn't scumreading which is.... also just such a clumsy fumble if this is the whole scumteam...
777 - klick's updated read have furtive as a townlean (no progression) and greeting in this like, null/poe area. it's just very bland if klick is the last scum.
788 - this is a side point: MT says klick is town, even with a boring scum pool. this take kinda resonated with me just a vibe.

this one is a weird perspective thing. in 874, klick calls roden's snap opinion change on hem hard to believe. this is a lim that you're already driving through, there's pretty limited value in him appearing just to dunk on it. in 877 klick calls for feedback on his own ckd towncase. trying to assume a level of responsibility for driving roden over ckd just... feels like scum!klick would be trying to expose himself...?

979 - MT asks Klick why he's so confident on El/CKD as town. Klick has left so never answers this, I'll concede it's not a great look.

1214 - greeting sets a scumpool which includes klick. honestly, this is probably the most incriminating thing against klick imo? hilariously, his scumpool is literally our remaining players without the masons and without you. he also says furtive is fine, but never comes back on why he asked for that list of 4 people for reads. again... this just feels like a bizarre way for greeting to fumble a distancing convo which includes the entire scumteam.


on day two, greeting/furtive aggressively crossbus and just.. do nothing with their last buddy?

in 1471 oopsie mentions a nullish scumread on klick & mentions partner equity with furive. suggests furtive/klick/hem scumteam here. that's a point against klick for sure.

one sec breaking this up in case shea sneaks in

[the worst]

1599 - if dragons is scum, once again he's put both of his scumbuddies next to each other in the null tier of his read list which is like.. so boring and counter-intuitive. it's happened across both slots? like maybe but i'm not vibing it?

1616 - dragons calls for hem reads, joins clidd wagon. doesn't address greeting townread, and ignores that wagon. that's like kind of a point against too but compared to the rate at which you did it,,, lol


1663 - context read: dragons doesn't care about snivy's survival at all. he's not bussing, and his team are cross-bussing without involving him. he's just acting like he doesn't care at all, despite kinda town-leaning greeting. he does not show any need to look good for this vote.

[humaneatingmonkey]

for the record, please evaluate and consider everyone who isnt a mason. like even karmadog. dont sheep my elim order, sheepy advice: absolutely dont tunnel and cool off when you're filled with emotions

[the worst]

day three has very few notes because i was kinda committed to the null-townlean at this point

1800 - bingle: "I'm not really interested in voting StD. Has seemed fairly towny since arrival." like.. bingle is better than this, that would be such cheesy distancing...

he also continued to iso dive & solve during the mason claim debacle which, as i've said, was an awkward phase for scum to solve through.

his slot's been inactive through all the juicy parts of this game so i'm probably never going to feel confident on this read. but if dragons is the last scum, it's so like... bland? i'm not beyond boring answers but i think we should always eliminate the more obvious ones first. (sorry hem)

[the worst]

for the record, please evaluate and consider everyone who isnt a mason. like even karmadog. dont sheep my elim order, sheepy advice: absolutely dont tunnel and cool off when you're filled with emotions

good advice. i'm filled with fervour & relief, is that an emotion?

[humaneatingmonkey]

hmmp

[the worst]

i'm sorry, you're really funny and fun so i assume this is a bit. if you're town can you have a look at my notes about dragon? my temptation would be to basically go silent tomorrow until dragon solves w/o tunnelling you being viable, then reevaluate all my reads

[humaneatingmonkey]

other words for bland and boring: OBVIOUS

[the worst]

it's so counter-intuitive though i find it so hard to consider obvious

[humaneatingmonkey]

is he town?

[the worst]

is anyone?

like idk. he can be scum, he's just not intuitive scum. when i evaluate you as scum it makes a lot of sense as someone who's trying to win the game. when i look at dragons as scum i'm like "... meh? i guess this slot isn't cleared"

[humaneatingmonkey]

YES. there's a town case for karmadog, gerain, bob -- none for std.

[humaneatingmonkey]

makes a lot of sense as someone who's trying to win the game.

bro if i was scum, i literally just lost the game. i wouldn't really play to reach this gamestate if i was scum.