mystery box of silver 15: i'm killing hostages (negotiated)

[Ranger]

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{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet, Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

Everyone from the BlueSnakelet tier above, I'm quite sure is town. Let's purge those below.

This game is nightless.

MUSHAGANA:

HighPrincessErinys:

Meuh:

SirCakez:

DKKoba:

Skygazer:

BlueSnakelet:

Doctor Drew:

With us all voting together, we have enough votes to purge everyone not-us. If we do this rapidfire one after another, then we instantly eliminate most or all of the scum. We have the numbers where even if the list contains 4 scum, we don't lose. Unless you think all five scum are in my list here, we don't lose by purging those outside.

Let's get some speedwagons going.

It literally doesn't matter who we wagon, as long as it's not someone in this list.

[Ranger]

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{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet, Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

Everyone from the BlueSnakelet tier above, I'm quite sure is town. Let's purge those below.

This game is nightless.

MUSHAGANA:

HighPrincessErinys:

Meuh:

SirCakez:

DKKoba:

Skygazer:

BlueSnakelet:

Doctor Drew:

With us all voting together, we have enough votes to purge everyone not-us. If we do this rapidfire one after another, then we instantly eliminate most or all of the scum. We have the numbers where even if the list contains 4 scum, we don't lose. Unless you think all five scum are in my list here, we don't lose by purging those outside.

Let's get some speedwagons going.

It literally doesn't matter who we wagon, as long as it's not someone in this list.

Let's punish lazy town and do the mod's work for him: purge everyone who isn't pulling their weight. Purge everyone not making effort. Do it, and do it now. Remove any lazy scum, and then remove the likely scum partners of those lazy scum.

[HighPrincessErinys]

NOW we're talking.

[Ranger]

like this is nightless its not like the baddies can do shit to us

Pooky if you're town, you should be down for a purge.

You yourself laid out the benefits of the strategy, so reaching out to you. It doesn't matter if you think we're voting out town, as long as the purge keeps going one after another and hits enough scum. It only takes 2-3 scum eliminations from mass-purge to essentially auto-win the game for town, here. Let's start it with the players who schadd

didn't

kill.

[Ranger]

Willing to bet good money on atleast 2 scum in ofrhz/Pooky/Alisae/Drew

I believe Alisae's correct in stating Doctor Drew's never scum.

The rest can be purged, and should be.

I'm not picky on who we start with; I'd suggest ofhrz, the player

not

purged by schadd.

[Ranger]

vote count 1.7 !

BlueSnakelet (5):

Alisae, Dannflor, The Bulge, SirCakez, ofrhz

ofrhz (4):

MUSHSHAGANA, Skygazer, Ranger, BlueSnakelet

DkKoba (3):

Doctor Drew, Meuh, xyzzy

Ranger (2):

Morning Tweet, RCEnigma

PookyTheMagicalBear (1):

HighPrincessErinys

SirCakez (1):

iamveryhappy

HighPrincessErinys (1):

PookyTheMagicalBear

Alisae (1):

DkKoba

The Bulge has been detonated. he was a

vanilla hostage

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Bulge had zero votes and no active town players advocating for him being scum. Literally nobody had the read schadd did.

We cannot trust schadd to kill scummy town.

If we can't trust schadd to kill the likes of ofrhz, we must do it ourselves.

Pure the scummiest slots on our own, because schadd killed one of the towniest slots.

[Ranger]

-1 snek voter btw

Bulge voted snek -> voting snek made him scummy -> the vote was bad -> snek is townie

This is an excellent observation.

And it begs the question. If BlueSnek is town, then what about the others on the wagon?

If the act of voting BlueSnakelet is scummy, then what made schadd kill The Bulge specifically on the wagon?

BlueSnakelet (5):

Alisae, Dannflor, The Bulge, SirCakez, ofrhz

ofrhz (4):

MUSHSHAGANA, Skygazer, Ranger, BlueSnakelet

Why not kill ofhrz, who

also

voted BlueSnakelet?

If voting BlueSnakelet was scummy because BlueSnakelet is town, then why was The Bulge with zero votes the slot killed, versus ofhrz?

[iamveryhappy]

Interesting.
I need to guess them properly. I didn't see the flip there sorry :/

[Ranger]

For the record, my preferred purge order:
ofhrz->xyzzy->RCEnigma->sheepsaysmeep->situational from there. Morning Tweet, Pooky, maybe Alisae if we're feeling spicy.

It starts with ofhrz first though. Let's make the purge happen. Blood for the blood god.

[RCEnigma]

I just feel like kkoba is being used by scum

Can I get a cliff notes of your townreads and idk if you solidify a read on Alissa in posts after this but I’m interested in how this thought specifically shapes your slides view.

[RCEnigma]

Alisae view* sorry.

[RCEnigma]

RCE did not similarly shift because I get the impression that RCE isn't engaged with the game and has no intention of figuring it out right now.

I disagree with this take. That RCEnigma isn't engaged with the game's clear enough. I would lump him in with xyzzy for still being readable off what he

has

produced, and it being +scum. I don't think he's making genuine pushes.

This is correct.

[RCEnigma]

Fwiw I do have townreads in Koba, Pooky, slightly in dannflor, and sky by virtue of sky being sky.

I’ve liked meuh posting but it doesn’t ping me one way or the other.

And I agree with dann’s sentiment that scum are using Koba, because honestly that’s what I’d do. In the sense I’d let them blow up towncircles and hide behind that.

Which is why I’m not super interested in who they are pushing (Alisae atm) but who is backing them or encouraging those pushes. Not to say Koba has bad reads but they take reads to the extreme and that’s enough wiggle room for scum.

I tried to stir kobas pot a little bit and they didn’t bite which I think is probably +town for them regardless of read accuracy, I wouldn’t put the burden of proficiency on them if they missed on their preferred elim.

[BlueSnakelet]

{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet, Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

Everyone from the BlueSnakelet tier above, I'm quite sure is town. Let's purge those below.

This game is nightless.

MUSHAGANA:

HighPrincessErinys:

Meuh:

SirCakez:

DKKoba:

Skygazer:

BlueSnakelet:

Doctor Drew:

With us all voting together, we have enough votes to purge everyone not-us. If we do this rapidfire one after another, then we instantly eliminate most or all of the scum. We have the numbers where even if the list contains 4 scum, we don't lose. Unless you think all five scum are in my list here, we don't lose by purging those outside.

Let's get some speedwagons going.

It literally doesn't matter who we wagon, as long as it's not someone in this list.

This is the best idea I heard today (I've just woken up). Count me in.

[DkKoba]

I'm anti purge but if we has one I'd absolutely have bluesnek in the purge pool since I don't enjoy their lack of engagenent with myself and alisae

[Meuh]

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{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet, Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

Everyone from the BlueSnakelet tier above, I'm quite sure is town. Let's purge those below.

This game is nightless.

MUSHAGANA:

HighPrincessErinys:

Meuh:

SirCakez:

DKKoba:

Skygazer:

BlueSnakelet:

Doctor Drew:

With us all voting together, we have enough votes to purge everyone not-us. If we do this rapidfire one after another, then we instantly eliminate most or all of the scum. We have the numbers where even if the list contains 4 scum, we don't lose. Unless you think all five scum are in my list here, we don't lose by purging those outside.

Let's get some speedwagons going.

It literally doesn't matter who we wagon, as long as it's not someone in this list.

I mean half of the list is currently voting for Alisae (and are the entirety of that wagon's composition) so if you're looking for somewhere to vote...

[Skygazer]

im down for rangers plan it sounds fun

[Meuh]

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{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet, Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

Everyone from the BlueSnakelet tier above, I'm quite sure is town. Let's purge those below.

This game is nightless.

MUSHAGANA:

HighPrincessErinys:

Meuh:

SirCakez:

DKKoba:

Skygazer:

BlueSnakelet:

Doctor Drew:

With us all voting together, we have enough votes to purge everyone not-us. If we do this rapidfire one after another, then we instantly eliminate most or all of the scum. We have the numbers where even if the list contains 4 scum, we don't lose. Unless you think all five scum are in my list here, we don't lose by purging those outside.

Let's get some speedwagons going.

It literally doesn't matter who we wagon, as long as it's not someone in this list.

I mean half of the list is currently voting for Alisae (and are the entirety of that wagon's composition) so if you're looking for somewhere to vote...

I'm pretty confident on Drew being town, Cakez too!
Snake's given me some good town vibes but not rly anything that strong.
Skygazer is REALLY good at coasting on vibes and being funny as scum from what I've seen, and I want a bit more substantial content from him to feel comfortable sorting. The setup spec was cool, but is also really easy posting for scum to make. There's been more good game content from them than in scum games in general though, so I do generally feel good about Skygazer at this point. I'm fine with letting her stick around for a while at the very least, cause I think she'll be sortable later.
Koba I'm kinda leaning town on? But I also don't rly disagree with Cakez' idea that limming Koba would improve gamestate (for the same reasons I've mentioned wanting to lim high posters earlier), I do have concerns of the game not being over at that final 9 or whatever and scum!Koba just sweeps at this point, even if only with like 1 or 2 partners
HPE idk at this point
and I have literally 0 thoughts on MUSHSHAGANA at this point and should probably ISO there.

[BlueSnakelet]

I'll just claim.

I have an 1-Shot ability that makes one mafia player become elegible to be killed as a hostage during the following Day (from the next town excecution until the next

next

town execution).

[Meuh]

Okay yeah MUSHSHAGANA is just town, cool

[Meuh]

I'll just claim.

I have an 1-Shot ability that makes one mafia player become elegible to be killed as a hostage during the following Day (from the next town excecution until the next

next

town execution).

Oooh, cool!

[Meuh]

That's the kind of stuff I was more expecting to see with influence on the hostage kill, less dead people being able to influence it

[iamveryhappy]

II'll also claim
I have an ability to guess the next hostage killed. If I guess correctly I can add someone to my neighbourhood

[Meuh]

Oooooh juicy

[Meuh]

Is the hood empty right now or can someone back you up on that?