Micro 1090: Fruit Mafia - Game Over!

[skitter30]

Pedit it's not impossible but like ... how likely do you think that is for scum-him to replace in and decide to defend town-me this way?

Question for dats too - part od why i think it's quite odd that you're landing on this being more likely to be scum

sorry i really don't undertstand what is supposed to be so unlikely about it. if you're buddies there's clear motive for that. even from town-you pov, scum defends town all the time. especially if you so claim that you have a lot of momentum on you. a defense like that that likely won't deter anyone from actually voting you is actually a really good place for scum if he can make it seem genuine??

- do u think we're buddies
- agreed that it's possible for scum to do this ... i just think it's significantly less likely than just voting me

[Night Shade]

Ok so you think it's more likely that scum-dragon replaces in and decides to defend me instead of just following the push that shea's making?

Idk the likelihood behind it tbh. I'm not saying Dragon is scum for this. I'm saying he's not town for it

So you're cautioning marci not to townread it b/c it *might* come from scum, but don't want to commit to how likely it is?

Everything can come from scum, the trick is to determine if its likely or not ...

I wasn't cautioning Marci? I was trying to sort Marci with those questions

Commiting to how likely it is? I don't know how likely it is, but it happens a lot, so I stand by what I'm saying here. If we just limmed people based on whether they are doing typical scummy stuff or not then town would lose every game. That same logic applies to town binning people

[Datisi]

Pedit it's not impossible but like ... how likely do you think that is for scum-him to replace in and decide to defend town-me this way?

Question for dats too - part od why i think it's quite odd that you're landing on this being more likely to be scum

sorry i really don't undertstand what is supposed to be so unlikely about it. if you're buddies there's clear motive for that. even from town-you pov, scum defends town all the time. especially if you so claim that you have a lot of momentum on you. a defense like that that likely won't deter anyone from actually voting you is actually a really good place for scum if he can make it seem genuine??

- do u think we're buddies
- agreed that it's possible for scum to do this ... i just think it's significantly less likely than just voting me

i already told you i'm not making a solve yet when half the game is unreadable, i don't fucking know. you could be

why is it "significantly less likely"

[Infinity 324]

half the game is still a bunch of people!!! smh my head

2 people is not half the game :dead:

mm this feels like not the way to approach someone who's having trouble getting into the game

[skitter30]

I don't think it's that abnormal for scum to defend an early town wagon. Sure scum!Dragon wouldn't need to do it, but what's the harm in earning free town points? Do you really think skitter's wagon had enough momentum to get all the way to a lim? I don't

-Night

@black what does this post mean/what are you trying to do with it

[skitter30]

@dats why doesnt scum just follow the push that has a lot of momentum?

[Datisi]

@dats why doesnt scum just follow the push that has a lot of momentum?

because it looks better for them long term if they can appear like they're defending you and you flip town? like

[Datisi]

like he's not even pushing anyone else, he voted shea for like, something that he in that post already hedged about

[Infinity 324]

fwiw I agree that dragon defending skitt is nai

I think marci is town

[Night Shade]

I don't think it's that abnormal for scum to defend an early town wagon. Sure scum!Dragon wouldn't need to do it, but what's the harm in earning free town points? Do you really think skitter's wagon had enough momentum to get all the way to a lim? I don't

-Night

@black what does this post mean/what are you trying to do with it

It means I don't think what Dragon has done makes him town and I was trying to engage with marci more

[Night Shade]

@dats why doesnt scum just follow the push that has a lot of momentum?

I expect someone as good at playing scum as you to understand the benefits of what Dragon did if he's scum. If for some reason this is a real question then just look at how certain people are townreading DragonEater and you have your answer

-Night

[Night Shade]

half the game is still a bunch of people!!! smh my head

2 people is not half the game

mm this feels like not the way to approach someone who's having trouble getting into the game

I feel like this was just a harmful observation in a moment where I was trying to sort out marci's read, but if for some reason this comment was taken poorly, I'm sorry! I didn't even know she was having a hard time getting into the game

[Night Shade]

HARMLESS* smh

[Infinity 324]

yeah it's just something i'm sensitive to, certain players do better when they're given space, and marci seems like one of those players to me.

[Night Shade]

yeah it's just something i'm sensitive to, certain players do better when they're given space, and marci seems like one of those players to me.

What do you think of DragonEater?

Any thoughts on my slot vs. skitter?

-Night

[marcistar]

How does this belief tie in to your current reads? You think skitter might be scum but she's definitely not just sitting back letting things happen imo

the "belief" ties into my current reads, because its what im using to townread the dragon eater person duh

i believe i said something like "i want to say skitters scum, but all the pressure makes me think otherwise" so i dont think one way or another on her yet?

[Infinity 324]

What do you think of DragonEater?

i guess lean scum if i had to give a read? the tr on skitt felt a bit surface level and the vote on your slot didn't make a lot of sense to me.

Any thoughts on my slot vs. skitter?

not really anything new? we still feel like skitt being like "scum probably doesn't claim miller like that and you should think that too" is towny for her, and not much has really changed since then except some more townvibes from her. from your&shea's side, i obviously don't agree with the push on her but it doesn't seem particularly scummy or anything, and generally we're having trouble sorting your slot cause we're just out of sync with both of you. there were some things that raised some eyebrows (focusing on our initial questioning of datisi rather than his response and our unvote, the questioning of marci) but it could very easily still be playstyle.

[Night Shade]

That post gives me townvibes. It feels honest and real. And I may be slightly biased because I started exploring my own Elements/Dragon paranoia earlier today so I liked that Infinity is also feeling that

I had to go back and look over Infinity's iso because I remember getting bad vibes from them. Some of the posts and positions feel diplomatic in a way and I think that's what also felt off with Dats. If Infinity is scum then they are really good at it, but I think I'm leaning town here after a small reread

focusing on our initial questioning of datisi rather than his response and our unvote, the questioning of marci

I had to look back at this too. I realize now that I didn't answer your question in 226, instead I just kinda said what I was thinking about your slot because when you engaged with me then I had just been looking at 151 like right before that. I just reread over you/Datisi interactions around this and I didn't really feel anything. I'm getting vibes that Datisi feels different than other games I've played with him but I'm not sure if that's alignment indicative really. None of my reads are really strong at this point tbh

As far as questioning marci, I'm not sure why that's odd, but I sort people better when I engage with them. So yeah maybe it is a playstyle thing

-Night

[Night Shade]

I can explain why I think Dragon's slot might be scum tomorrow but I have to leave for the night

For now I'm taking over our vote

VOTE: DragonEater70

[Infinity 324]

That post gives me townvibes. It feels honest and real. And I may be slightly biased because I started exploring my own Elements/Dragon paranoia earlier today so I liked that Infinity is also feeling that

mmm really? i basically said "this slot is basically null but a couple things pinged me" which feels like a very different thing than paranoia. if you're town and actually felt something related that's ok haha just feels a bit weird

As far as questioning marci, I'm not sure why that's odd, but I sort people better when I engage with them. So yeah maybe it is a playstyle thing

yeah just the way you engaged came off as a bit aggressive, but if you didn't realize they were having trouble getting into the game that's fine. but this response feels a bit diplomatic if you think i was saying engaging with people is scummy?

mmmmmm

wonder what others think about this post

[Aristeia]

VOTE: infinity

[marcistar]

i dont think infinitys scum tbhs

[Aristeia]

why is infinity town?

[atsi]

YESS I GOT THE BEST FRUIT EVER

I cc best fruit

So you are a mango-pineapple?

I am best fruit, which is pineapple.

[atsi]

Also I think Ausuka is likely scum, for 2 reasons:

• Both her anger, and the later apology in #50, feels kinda off to me. I'm not sure how to best explain it, but it's different from how I think a person that genuinely feels angry/apologetic would express those feelings.

• Having rolled miller twice in a row before would would likely put miller on top of scum!Ausuka's mind when considering a strategy.