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[DragonEater70]

Note: Please send your night actions to both me and Alianna.

[DragonEater70]

Dannflor has been killed during the night. He was a

Town Novice 1-Shot Cop

.

Spoiler: Role PM

Novice 1-shot cop

Welcome, Dannflor! You are a

Town Novice 1-Shot Cop

.

Once per game, at night, but not on the first night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, I will tell you that player's alignment.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

It is now Day 2. The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-08-26 02:56:48).

[DragonEater70]

VC 2.00

Votecount 2.00

Not Voting (11):

bob3141, Hu Tao, Random Nurse, iamveryhappy, Yimmy, Civil Scum, BBmolla, Political Clout, Save The Dragons, Naerys, KatyKimFanClub

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-08-26 02:56:27).

[Random Nurse]

OK, so, I looked at Greeting's ISO and got a nagging guy feeling.

VOTE: Civil Scum

[Random Nurse]

OK, so, I looked at Greeting's ISO and got a nagging guy feeling.

VOTE: Civil Scum

*gut

[Random Nurse]

Looker's ISO was useless.

When I looked through Greeting's ISO they appeared to do a lot of distancing with Civil Scum. I'll see if I can pull those posts up.

[DragonEater70]

@mod: did you design the setup?

I cannot answer this question at this time.

[bob3141]

VOTE: Kim

kims scum read on greeting never sat well with me. They never did anything with it and waited until e-1 until they jumped on looker. Looks like a clear bus

[Hu Tao]

OK, so, I looked at Greeting's ISO and got a nagging guy feeling.

VOTE: Civil Scum

Can you explain it?

[Hu Tao]

Looker's ISO was useless.

When I looked through Greeting's ISO they appeared to do a lot of distancing with Civil Scum. I'll see if I can pull those posts up.

Ah okay. I'll look into that

[Random Nurse]

Howdy! I like this playerlist.

VOTE: Civil Scum

rereading the thread some of Civil Scum's posts strike me as openwolfy - it's improved over the course of this game
keeping the attention on Civil Scum - I'd like to point out their wagon. Formed as fast as it collapsed, currently only one vote on them
I'm going to chuck Civil Scum in the town bin for a bit and probably for the entirety of d1, looking at Civil's posts they look reasonable from a town pov
the thing I'm slightly concerned with is their thing with the Mafia Scum title. Why do they think it brings unnecessary attention hmmm
but the thing is it was d1, leaving that in the back of my thoughts
Could someone please provide me with a votecount when they were on E-2? That would be very useful. I blame kindle.
(I mean still better than phone lol)

Yeah, I’m not so sure about that. He does give strong Newbie vibes, but this could easily be faked by a capable player, and is a good strategy to get towncred.

I am okay with leaving

Civil Scum

be for now though.

Yeah I just have to say that what Greeting said about me possibly acting confused newbie town really is bizarre to me. The things he pointed to that I said were not alignment indicative in the slightest, so why not just say I could be newbie scum, why apply this extra layer onto my behavior of ‘he could be a competent scum pretending to be newbie’.

Also I’m just going to post my read list and then take a break, I’m being a bit OCD I realize.

I’m order of increasing scumminess with an asterisk indicating a possible failed read on my part, or to say that I think the player seems town but might just be scum playing a very good game (lord knows I’ve been wrong before):

Civil Scum- of course

STD- on meta

Starfire*- just a read

Bellaphant- for reasons previously stated

Naerys- on meta

Random Nurse*- obviously hasn’t given much to work with but was the first person to come back and take me off E-2. Gets plenty of points from me for that.

Iamveryhappy- tough to read but I liked that he made note that my asking about the mafia scum tag under my name seemed a little paranoid. I would argue WIFOM since as scum I wouldn’t draw attention to myself in this way, but I’m glad he mentioned it cause it seemed like an obvious question to be asking.

Hu Tao- really unsure about them so far but haven’t done anything particularly scummy.

Political Clout- I initially thought that his banter with Starfire seemed like genuine scum hunting, but personally I am able to go after others pretty hard and pretty convincingly when I’m scum, and I’m sure many people here can so I’m taking those towny points away.

KKFC- He seems pro town at times but I’m struggling to put much faith in some of his arguments thus far.

Bob- for reasons stated (see my ISO)

Greetings- for reasons stated

Bazuf- Bazuf top scum and due for a prod shortly if I’m not mistaken.

So, let me get this straight.

You are very sure that

Bazuf

is mafia because he is a low poster and that I am scum for defending him, even though I never even mentioned him in my posts?

I also don't see an asterisk near those reads, does that mean that you are absolutely certain of them?

Also, I absolutely dislike almost all of

Civil Scum

’s reads in this game, but sadly I do not know if he’s scum or just confused town.

I mean the tone sounds alright, but the content just does not click with me.

Greeting, I’ve made a couple points about you that you’ve simply ignored. Why are you so afraid of generating content?

Because it doesn’t seem to me like you are basing your read of me on evidence, instead you are trying to gather evidence to support your pre-existing suspicion. Also known as confirmation bias. In my experience, it’s generally not worth bothering with.

In 380 you quote me telling my scum partner that lurking is a good strategy, and try to use this as evidence for my scumminess in this game. Which doesn’t really make sense, because in the game that I linked I served as the prime shit-stirrer who led one miselim after another. With this logic you can get any conclusion about my scum meta you’d like. And I don’t even consider my playstyle in this game to be lurking.

Another contradiction in your point is you disliking both me throwing my vote carelessly in RVS (which I usually do without reading the thread at all) and criticising my general caution about voting thereafter.

The rest of the post is just your opinion of my gameplay, which I just don’t agree with. I don’t comment on my own meta as it borders on a trust tell, which is against the rules.

Greeting only had a scant amount of posts, but my gut feels like there was an abnormal amount of distancing between Greeting and Civil Scum. I could be way off here, but now that the other game I was in has completed, my gut feels early-mid game can be spot-on. I sussed out Scum!Medeia Day 1 and she won the game.

[Hu Tao]

Interesting that Dannflor died. He was towntelling hard end of day but still. Curious that Naerys is still alive too. Hm.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Kim

kims scum read on greeting never sat well with me. They never did anything with it and waited until e-1 until they jumped on looker. Looks like a clear bus

Good catch. I'll look into this too

[bob3141]

that spews civil as town. civil was the one that greeting talked the most too

[Hu Tao]

With there being a doctor and a cop that was flipped, I buy RN role claim and them being town.

[Random Nurse]

The other option, gut-wise, is that maybe the other two are among Hu Tao, Bob, and IAVH.

Not sure who here forgot but I mentioned that IAVH made a comment about his Scum/Town play in the dead PT of a completed game, and that signaled to me that he may not be Town due to playing much differently: more serious, instead of goofing off/trolling—a meta tell.

As for Hu Tao and Bob, I'm not sure. They *feel* different from when I played with them before, but...

[Hu Tao]

that spews civil as town. civil was the one that greeting talked the most too

I agree on this. Seems to me that greeting was more pleading to civil if anything.

[Hu Tao]

The other option, gut-wise, is that maybe the other two are among Hu Tao, Bob, and IAVH.

Not sure who here forgot but I mentioned that IAVH made a comment about his Scum/Town play in the dead PT of a completed game, and that signaled to me that he may not be Town due to playing much differently: more serious, instead of goofing off/trolling—a meta tell.

As for Hu Tao and Bob, I'm not sure. They *feel* different from when I played with them before, but...

Maybe cause you're town with us this time

[Random Nurse]

With there being a doctor and a cop that was flipped, I buy RN role claim and them being town.

Your lack of skepticism is both awe-inspiring and unnerving.

[Random Nurse]

Are there any players Greeting/Looker did not engage with it mention at all?

[Random Nurse]

Are there any players Greeting/Looker did not engage with or mention at all?

[Hu Tao]

With there being a doctor and a cop that was flipped, I buy RN role claim and them being town.

Your lack of skepticism is both awe-inspiring and unnerving.

Your claim from the beginning I thought likely came from town in the situation we are in. But thr flips just gave it more credit.

[Hu Tao]

So your out of RVS now. As the game stands where do you feel your actual vote would be most placed. Even if you strongest reads is null scum.

I’m in no rush to decide my vote yet. What I can say as of now is that I have weak townreads on

KatyKimFanClub

and

iamveryhappy

.

When pressured to give a read he gave this. Could be possible 1 of these 2 are scum.

[Civil Scum]

Looker's ISO was useless.

When I looked through Greeting's ISO they appeared to do a lot of distancing with Civil Scum. I'll see if I can pull those posts up.

Nice job on Greeting everyone but this is a bunch of baloney.

[bob3141]

Feel like unvoting this early reduces any sort of reactions we can get from the early wagon.
Like at least make it hurt for Civil.

No, we do not want an RVS vote to reach E-1, unless there is a legitimate reason to suspect that player.

Well.. is there a reason why we should make it hurt for

Civil Scum

?

So your out of RVS now. As the game stands where do you feel your actual vote would be most placed. Even if you strongest reads is null scum.

I’m in no rush to decide my vote yet. What I can say as of now is that I have weak townreads on

KatyKimFanClub

and

iamveryhappy

.

Top one is the only interacting greeting had with kim and that was relating to rvs aswell as being more about pushign civil. Yet with no real attempt at sorting he later comes to town read kim even if it is claimed to be weak