Mini 2308 | Blood over Utopia | Utopia fell.

[Hu Tao]

Oh do you mean votes?

[Hu Tao]

I think Merlyn is my biggest town read so far. I think they have been pretty genuine so far even in torture meeting.

[biancospino]

Votecount 3-I

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to hammer.

execution votes

Deal With The Devil (1):

Enchant (2171)

SirCakez (1):

Aureal (2175)

Aureal (1):

SirCakez (2181)

Not voting (8):

meowmeow, Merlyn, Deal With The Devil, Flavor leaf, RCEnigma, camelCasedSnivy, Hu Tao, Cat Scratch Fever

projects votes

Recount (2):

Merlyn (2172), Aureal (2175)

Sacrifice (1):

camelCasedSnivy (2208)

Not voting (8):

meowmeow, Deal With The Devil, Enchant, Flavor leaf, RCEnigma, SirCakez, Hu Tao, Cat Scratch Fever

notes

• The Deadline is due in (expired on 2023-08-27 09:40:33).
  
• Please use hurt tags to vote for projects.
  
• Alianna is V/LA till Thursday

[Deal With The Devil]

So I've been thinking about inquiry. I think the fact that it is there means we are being mislead about something and it's worrying. Not sure what it could be

It's stated that the only mod lies in this game will be caused by game effects, so I wouldn't be expecting the mod to lie about just anything. There was the possibility of Torture giving false results, though, and the Billboard hinted that there may be voting manipulation we don't know about, so probably that kind of thing. Or scum abilities that can screw with us. It's possible at this point that they straight-up don't have a factional kill and instead have something more like our Billboard. Ultimately, though, I don't think whether the mod has lied or not is specific enough information to actually be meaningful.

- Alianna

[meowmeow]

VOTE: SirCakez
HURT: Recount

Told you guys torture's flavor was bad. I'm guessing Leaf can't participate today.

They're predicting thunderstorms too now...and no one is even dead...maybe the Insurgents are actually the good guys?
Man, I sure hope the Overseer isn't reading this.

- Alianna

i think the insurgents are definitely the good guys flavour wise!

would be interested to hear what happened in the torture pt to the extent you can post that

[meowmeow]

i'm p willing to just say fl is town and just, if scum can sabotage torture, i mean whatever

VOTE: aureal

i'm sure fl is going to come in and push the votes wherever he wants but i like this for now

[Flavor Leaf]

I think i got poisoned.

I received something saying that ‘i am feeling terribly unwell.”

[Flavor Leaf]

Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why are we voting?

I thought the entire plan was to vote and recount to check.

[Flavor Leaf]

HURT: Sacrifice

We sacrifice Enchant.

[meowmeow]

Why are we voting?

I thought the entire plan was to vote and recount to check.

consider it a pseudo thing? usually this early in the day you're not voting to kill imminently anyway

once we come to a consensus about who to lim, we can then decide who we want to be on the wagon

[RCEnigma]

Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.

Any explanation why?

[Flavor Leaf]

Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.

Any explanation why?

explanation on why what? why he want against the plan?

He's being a sour enchilada.

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel like right now, I'd be fine to see Meowmeow and Merlyn Recounted on Aureal.

[Flavor Leaf]

We have to expect Enchant to join whichever wagon we pick last minute, though.

[Aureal]

"I was told by scum...that something is scummy...when I personally did it as town...but now that YOU'RE doing it it's scummy."

I don't think it's an unreasonable point even though it came from scum and obviously plenty of other people in that game thought it reasonable too, because I very nearly got miseliminated there. And I think the way you brought it up out of absolutely nothing as a gotcha was a lot more suspicious than what I had said.

How was torture a bad thing that has led to bad things for us? If FL is out for the day that's just the worst thing that could have happened to town?

?????

You don't think that conftown being restricted in what they can do would be a bad thing?

On that note, Leaf you should vote for someone because lacking a vote might be the effect of the torture.

[RCEnigma]

That’s fine with me, I think Merlyn is the slot I’m struggling the hardest with because I can make a case for either alignment and both would be believable (to me).

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Enchantilada

[meowmeow]

my thought was that we do a full wagon similar to the coalition

although thinking about it, the mechanic is a lot worse when you have this kind of ridiculous scum ratio

i'm fine with me and merlyn going on there i guess? i'll think about it more but i don't have any initial objections

i do kind of think there should maybe be some flexibility. since, depending on the deadline, if someone selfvotes/scumclaims, we could try and quickly switch the wagon and then eliminate that person tomorrow instead and use the recount today while we have election security - does that make sense?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Oh do you mean votes?

Yeah I meant votes

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think i got poisoned.

I received something saying that ‘i am feeling terribly unwell.”

To be clear, this isn't related to the Torture flavor in 2169 is it?

[Flavor Leaf]

I think i got poisoned.

I received something saying that ‘i am feeling terribly unwell.”

To be clear, this isn't related to the Torture flavor in 2169 is it?

i dont think so

it looks like a poisoner.

[Merlyn]

Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.

All true, but Enchant didn't try even one bit to convince others to vote with them- they only posted twice, and one was the vote. What's the scum benefit to sticking out like this? FL said something to the effect in the hood that Enchant could be town but that he didn't think the way they were playing was very town like, and I do kind of get this bc they've been a bit terse, but I think the fact that they pointed out a genuine hiccup in recount that gains scum nothing for pointing out is kind of big.

[Flavor Leaf]

Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.

All true, but Enchant didn't try even one bit to convince others to vote with them- they only posted twice, and one was the vote. What's the scum benefit to sticking out like this? FL said something to the effect in the hood that Enchant could be town but that he didn't think the way they were playing was very town like, and I do kind of get this bc they've been a bit terse, but I think the fact that they pointed out a genuine hiccup in recount that gains scum nothing for pointing out is kind of big.

i didnt like their end of the day yesterday either.

Idc Enchant's alignment for the sacrifice, tbh. if they're town, cool, they give us an extra 20k.

I'm also probably on my deathbed here, so give me that dying wish please.

[Flavor Leaf]

Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.

All true, but Enchant didn't try even one bit to convince others to vote with them- they only posted twice, and one was the vote. What's the scum benefit to sticking out like this? FL said something to the effect in the hood that Enchant could be town but that he didn't think the way they were playing was very town like, and I do kind of get this bc they've been a bit terse, but I think the fact that they pointed out a genuine hiccup in recount that gains scum nothing for pointing out is kind of big.

I disagree. ScumEnchant likes to point out flaws in things I come up with, and that gives them satisfaction.

If anything, I think it's scummier of them to do so.