Open 881 | Friends and Enemies | Postgame

[Bell]

And she did it while knowing we work full time jobs. Like. She released it on a monday.
Jesus christ.

[Datisi]

You're mad for reasons that appear to be self-serving/meant to protect you.

what is this even about? i don't feel like i was mad at all this game, except for maybe the parts where i was annoyed katya wasn't voting, but like she wasn't townreading me it makes no sense for that claim to be about "protecting myself"

anyway my issue with your vote is that you made like a whole thing early game talking about how you can never read me and i find it odd you'd be confident enough in your read on me to start a wagon at deadline, even though sheep and i had the same number of votes (0, not counting yours) and you did like nothing to actually convince anyone to vote sheep, as far as i can remember

ok i just checked it was a few "look at their iso guys they're being unreadable" which like, lole

[Bell]

*takes off gloves*
I respect people that deny things in like a play for power or whatever. But you're not reading Katya's post you fop. They've made multiple posts hesitating on you and I see a mad lad who has brought up they don't like this game, like twice.
As for my confidence or whatever. I am literally never confident. If I voted Sheep, I would be wondering if they were gunna flip town or scum.
if I vote you I'm going to be wondering if it's town or scum.
I don't know who the scum are.

[Aristeia]

Dbz, mininormal 2234 and AI upick part 2. In reverse order.
Scum, town, scum (but it's multiball so it's not really the same thing).

ok and you didn't notice he posts way more in his town games than his scum games ?

[Aristeia]

and like in the town game he is much more aggressive in going after people whereas in the scum games he's kind of passive and making idle chit chat

[Aristeia]

I also, really do have a head ache and am sort of panicking because of all the shit I have to do suddenly.
Who demands a paper on the first week back to college? 2 days after a syllabus goes up? A sadist is who.

And she did it while knowing we work full time jobs. Like. She released it on a monday.
Jesus christ.

I don't get this - are you talking about a player in the game or your real life issues?

[Doctor Drew]

Dbz, mininormal 2234 and AI upick part 2. In reverse order.
Scum, town, scum (but it's multiball so it's not really the same thing).

ok and you didn't notice he posts way more in his town games than his scum games ?

and like in the town game he is much more aggressive in going after people whereas in the scum games he's kind of passive and making idle chit chat

Who is this referring to?

[Aristeia]

superbowl

[Bell]

Yes, I did notice their posting rate was different in the one town game I reviewed and the two scum games I reviewed. I
I don't have to go over why that's probably not relevant unless you're as bad at playing as mafia as I am, do I?

Yes, I noticed the lack of aggressiveness or the softer touch. At least initially, but they also made similar jokes and had similar conversations in normal. They also became sharper once they got poked here.
They also said twice in that game not to meta them because they intentionally change their meta from game to game and generalizations based on that sample size over that time frame isn't a good idea.

[Bell]

That was RL stuff yes.

[Aristeia]

which game did he say not to meta him in?

[Bell]

Mini 2234.

[yekaterina]

i maybe worry about the fact that datisi getting annoyed with me has like, would i get annoyed with you about not voting when you are scumreading me and might vote me?, factor

except for maybe the parts where i was annoyed katya wasn't voting, but like she wasn't townreading me it makes no sense for that claim to be about "protecting myself"

[yekaterina]

anyway aristeia probably(?) town outside of specific worlds

[yekaterina]

will look at superbowl9 meta in a couple hours

[Datisi]

i maybe worry about the fact that datisi getting annoyed with me has like, would i get annoyed with you about not voting when you are scumreading me and might vote me?, factor

except for maybe the parts where i was annoyed katya wasn't voting, but like she wasn't townreading me it makes no sense for that claim to be about "protecting myself"

yes, point that to bell thank you

[Bell]

In games when players have been angry with me it rarely mattered if I thought they were scum or town or whether I was undermining them in terms of others reads of them by preaching caution or by undercutting their scum reads or targets. People can get mad at me and it will effect my reads and approach to them even if I think they're scum, because I'm not *sure* they're scum. Rather, I rarely think and most don't think "player x is scum, Player y is town" we're not binary in our thinking like that, it's an oversimplification you're providing and not a particularly common one at your level of play.

[superbowl9]

So I was doing the reading thing after a nap and I stopped after reaching the point when SB said: “Dont bother meta is useless and mine is even moreso useless”

Just kidding I finished. After a review of 3 games and I don’t got nuffin. I guess the fact he broke out the quotes is slightly different but mostly I just have a head ache now.

I say this every game pretty sure

[Bell]

Maybe the trick is to encourage people to meta you instead.
If I said don't check under the bed there's nothing there I swear.
Everybody is going to be digging down there for the day is out.

[superbowl9]

No I don't say don't meta me I say meta is useless in any game period

[Bell]

Oh. No I'm pretty sure most people could be outted by a sophisticated enough program. People are pretty bad at meta tho, yeah.

[superbowl9]

Has anyone ever tried to intentionally play the same way (regardless of alignment)??? Meta is easily the most manipulable thing in mafia AND the most easily defensible argument of all time and will gift wrap a scum W its a waste of time every game

[superbowl9]

Game-ly meta rant over

[Aristeia]

every good girl needs a little thug

[Aristeia]

superbowl what's your STD read?