Datisi's University [game over!]

[Ranger]

that list means you're LEANING scum on fire assassin?

Yes.

I've one strong scumread; camelCasedSnivy.
I've one decent scumread; Aristeia.
I've one slot I weakly scumread (up from the previous lean scum); Fire Assassin.

The rest of the names, I've more conflicting thoughts on.

the lists are borderline unreadable

There's an easy way to fix that.

Placements are largely arbitrary. They don't necessarily have a defined read. Still, it never hurts to ask and if asked, I can give the closest approximation.

[Ranger]

ranger kind of a weird question but if you were scum who would you push for a mislim other than me

Oh, Fire Assassin. Easily.

how come? not saying i disagree or that this is absurd or anything, but i'm very curious as to how you came to the conclusion

Fire Assassin would be an easy mislim to push, because he's not a slot which ever looks town and because there'd be no flak from it. He's already disinclined to read my posts, so he'd ignore my push. Since it's a push unlikely to gain momentum, he'd be a place I could safely push for days, giving an excuse to not push a player through to mislim repeatedly. Makes him the perfect slot for a scum-Ranger to push.

[Ranger]

unquestionably bad way to play the game but since i'm an enabler: why did i move up in your list? because sail flipped green?

I'm a casual tryhard. I'm lazy. I only engage casually. If people don't talk to me, then I'm not going to put the effort in to talk to them, that's too much work.

As for why you're higher, you're not really. Everyone above you moved below you. My townread on you remains around Sail levels. I

believe

you're town. I'm not convinced you are.

[Ranger]

im about to go into a deep slumber so i havent gotten past a couple posts into page 82, but the more i think about it, the more i think i can get on board with a ccs wagon. i'm just wary of how it came about. i like the logic but i'm not sure i trust the intentions and i need to figure that out before i get a vote in

Who are the sketchy names involved? {Ranger, GuiltyLion, NorwegianboyEE} are likely all town. Do you suspect furtiveglance or KatyKimFanClub?

[Datisi]

Enchant replaces Fire Assassin.

[RCEnigma]

Great, a player I have perfect read accuracy on.

[Enchant]

Great, a player I have perfect read accuracy on.

You had cheat mode in previous game.

[WhemeStar]

Welcome back to the site enchant glad to have u

[WhemeStar]

Also ranger talking about ppl refusing to reevaluate and about fire stealing her words when it comes to reevaluating day 1 reads and then not reevaluating reads is ???

Both of them don’t make sense to me but can wait to see what enchant says ig and idk id not making sense is scum but it’s confusing

[Enchant]

Welcome back to the site enchant glad to have u

Uh. I am not really back. I just help with replacements until i run my game.

But yeah i missed you all. For a bit. Fine, for more than that.

[WhemeStar]

Gotcha well I’m glad you replaced in

[Enchant]

Also ranger talking about ppl refusing to reevaluate and about fire stealing her words when it comes to reevaluating day 1 reads and then not reevaluating reads is ???

Both of them don’t make sense to me but can wait to see what enchant says ig and idk id not making sense is scum but it’s confusing

I presume you have questions to me.

[WhemeStar]

No not realky

[Andresvmb]

@Datisi I’m VLA until tomorrow night.

[Andresvmb]

Oh and if anybody is serious about figuring this out, I would be analyzing the composition of the early wagon that built on osuka and see if there’s a lot of overlap with the one that went through for Sail. That may tell us if there’s a decent chance of osuka flipping Scum for instance. It might also tell us for the future what Scum tipped Sail over the edge, but didn’t want to execute osuka as they were their Partner for instance (or if osuka flips Town at some point, you can look closer at the overlap of players). Some ideas from the information we do have. We could also contrast that with the players pushing Snivy today, for example. It’s what I will probably do once I get back if no one has taken me up on it.

[Andresvmb]

I have properly explained why i think Osuka is more likely town than not and why i disliked the wagon there.

I was misremembering - I thought you had osuka and Sail both as Scum. I was simply saying to osuka that if they were to flip Town, whoever had pushed both slots should jump to the front of the pack for Town scrutiny. That doesn’t apply to you. I just thought it did from memory.

[Enchant]

No not realky

You know my habit of not reading game remained unchanged.

[Ranger]

Also ranger talking about ppl refusing to reevaluate and about fire stealing her words when it comes to reevaluating day 1 reads and then not reevaluating reads is ???

You're being disingenuous.

I specified those who were part of thread consensus pushing Sail/Ranger/osuka in particular should be reevaluating.

I was never part of that group.

I also have been reevaluating my reads continuously, and most of my reads have

drastically

shifted.

The very bottom hasn't, and the very top hasn't. The entire middle is entirely different.

[WhemeStar]

Your lock reads remaining lock reads isn’t really reevaluating right

Like you say your reevaluating but you still have the same people you strongly dknt want to vote and want to vote middle/bull slots don’t rly matter right

[camelCasedSnivy]

Snivys interactions with Ranger remind me of myself in weird dreams

how so

[Dusa]

WhemeStar, didn't you attack Ranger with shouting yesterday? And you mildly dislike her today.

And that doesn't add up to a VOTE: ??
Is there someone worse??

Was the shouting fake? My worry is the shouting was fake. Everyone around here has a big voice except me..

[osuka]

GL can you please explain what feels really townie about Ranger

I can try but I am not sure it will be satisfying, bear with me, I can probably try to articulate this in more depth tomorrow

it's a combo of 1) the stubborn attitude insisting that she was ignored while pushing CCS and pulling up the receipts, as well as 2) her appeal to camel's town meta, it's not giving me the vibe of a player who knows she's pushing bullshit

based on my history with her as a player (across several of her accounts, I'm trying not to compare them directly as I know she doesn't like that, but I do feel it's relevant) - when I have seen her push narratives as scum she's been prone to distort things or make particularly aggressive claims in service to her narrative, whereas here this tunnel feels more grounded in actual events of the thread and thus without an underlying scum agenda. like my impression is that if she were scum then a post like 1993 would have read maybe like 10-15%

more

aggressive and reachy, like she may have attempted to shade me or other players that ignored her original camel vote, in an emulation of how she argues or posts as town. but instead this instance feels pure to me

let me know whether that makes sense or if you disagree, you were scum in the House of the Dragon game and my experience in that game is informing this read significantly

this might be the best towncase for ranger in the entire thread

[osuka]

I want to see the result here. I am finding it interesting that there's no follow up from the people who voted yesterday.

as in, the people who voted for sail? i felt like i had to take a step back because i clearly had a lot of things wrong, and a big part of not being a fucking idiot is to know when to stop (which i'm trying to do here)

[osuka]

fwiw i think sail was a good exec and they did themselves absolutely no favors, but in any case i was still wrong so theres that

[osuka]

based on my history with her as a player (across several of her accounts, I'm trying not to compare them directly as I know she doesn't like that, but I do feel it's relevant)

You must be thinking of someone else.

Ranger is my only account.

I was not a player in House of Dragons.

welp i take whatever i said about gl's towncase back then

i might be horribly confused