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[biancospino]

Votecount 3-X

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to hammer.

Votes

JacksonVirgo (1 = E-2):

the worst (538)

the worst (1 = E-2):

Random Nurse (664)

Not Voting (3):

ZZZX, AnimatedWiz (747), JacksonVirgo (781)

Notes

• The Deadline is due in (expired on 2023-09-24 23:16:26)
  
• You can find the combined mod ISO here.
  
• JacksonVirgo is V/LA for the next three days.

[Random Nurse]

Jackson, why exactly do you think Worst is voting you?

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson, why exactly do you think Worst is voting you?

Because I am the scums win-con.

[JacksonVirgo]

He came in absolutely swinging at me

[JacksonVirgo]

The game hinges on me or ZZZ. I don't think he expected to be the elim ngl, I think he expected ZZZ and set up a F3 but didn't turn out his way and he was pushed and now he's stuck with spewing me Town. But he won't spew me Town because Wiz, sorry I'm just really upset at him.

[Random Nurse]

Jackson, why exactly do you think Worst is voting you?

Because I am the scums win-con.

?

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson, why exactly do you think Worst is voting you?

Because I am the scums win-con.

?

They need one miselim. I am the person they need to miselim. Thus I am their wincon. I did word it a little bad, my bad

[Random Nurse]

Jackson, why exactly do you think Worst is voting you?

Because I am the scums win-con.

?

They need one miselim. I am the person they need to miselim. Thus I am their wincon. I did word it a little bad, my bad

Well, I am certain with your charm, ingenuity, and experience you can make a connection with Wiz to see this through.

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson, why exactly do you think Worst is voting you?

Because I am the scums win-con.

?

They need one miselim. I am the person they need to miselim. Thus I am their wincon. I did word it a little bad, my bad

Well, I am certain with your charm, ingenuity, and experience you can make a connection with Wiz to see this through.

You flatter me ahaha, but I can't if I can't bring myself to play to my usual standards. I'm losing my desire to play, which I'm sure you can understand at least somewhat.

[JacksonVirgo]

You're not in my shoes, so I don't expect you to fully get it but yeah.

[ZZZX]

FMPOV Wiz is Town.

Vote's on Worst. Both ZZZX and JV have posted since my vote, and did not hammer. It's still possible JV is Scum and is going to wait 3 days before he and ZZX hammer Worst for game, but that's doubtful. I find it hard to believe Scum ZZX and JV would just simply wait and do nothing.

Animated Wiz, please vote for Worst. Then I guess we'll be waiting for JV to hammer Worst.

I've done that like once, like.... 8-9 years ago? It was funny to do at least once, but its a bucket list item basically And is technically playing against our win con if we were both scum

[ZZZX]

Also, to confirm for all, Wiz and I aren't both Scum because we would have been hammering Worst immediately right now.

Well, I can confirm that you could've hammered Jackson, not the worst, but semantics.

So WIz is confirmed town

[ZZZX]

I'm planning to hammer. I don't think you're a wolf but you claimed TA and barely had any response to the existence of a Mailman. Why is that?

Does it give a positive result to Traffic Analyst?

If so, I actually didn't know that.

I just got the letter, followed the command, but I felt it really didn't mean much or do anything.

I did talk about it and linked the wiki, and checked with the mod regarding that point, hence a lot of my previous posts to wiz,

[ZZZX]

Well, mostly I just am trying to figure out what pairings make sense, since that’s probably the best tool here.

I feel like ZZZX and Blue working together since early on makes me consider them as a likely scumteam, but I can’t discount the possibility that Bianco would

definitely

consider having a double-scum neighborhood for how funny that would be. I suppose that, since both of those possibilities include the worst, he’s not a bad choice as a target.

Plus, if he flips as an Informed Wolf Neighbor, we know it’s almost certainly the second possibility—eliminating ZZZX just doesn’t seem to be as reasonable right now.

Well I find this interesting, in a sense, if Wiz is scum I would've expected him to go for me as the easiest MissLim in the game at this point, with how Jackson likes me, and Wiz/RN, I would think thats an easy finish for them, so I will like to believe Wiz is town.

And if RN is a traffic analyser, it is interesting, https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ic_Analyst

So it definitely wasn't blocked (since blocked message is different), and it would also indicate that Wiz is Vanilla likely, or at least not any of the neighborhood roles (which makes sense), mafia, mailman, or any similar roles (I hoped that page would give a longer list of roles results, but I guess it is a normal anyway so I shouldn't expect anything too exciting)

[ZZZX]

Also if JV was Scum and Worst was Town, JV would have hammered immediately for game.

So there's no way both he and ZZZX are Scum. It's one of the other.

Interesting, that is indeed true,

So this either confirms that the Worst is scum for sure, or that someone is playing with their food

[ZZZX]

Here's why I think ZZZ is the Mailman though.

1. It can't be Wiz due to your check.
2. It can't be you because mechanically it doesn't make sense. It's also confirmed to not be you and ZZZ I think due to being in hammer range.
3. It can't be the neighbours as the same reason as RN it doesn't make sense. They're already clear from the TA. And the TA is the focus of this setup hence why the doc and the neighbours all exist.
4. What scum mailman would target ZZZ last night. That makes zero sense

Well, considering the mail man messages are:

1- Consistently useless
2- Irrelevant and consistent in format.

I do not think who they targetted matters, let me see

[ZZZX]

Why am I thinking Wiz is still wolf here. Is there a way?

Is it possible it's a sole scum + traitor? Is that normal eligible?

Extremely convuloted for that to happen, and I would argue go against a normal game if the town has a traffic analyser, and then the maf doesnt ring positive.

[ZZZX]

By page 30, my thoughts are:

There is a general assumption that RN would be killed instead of Wiz, I think that ingenious to be fair

I think from everyone's POV the worst is already confirmed scum, since everyone had a chance to hammer him if he wasn't, so the discussion is up around who is with him, and the end game will probably be:

Me, Jackson, and RN

[JacksonVirgo]

By page 30, my thoughts are:

There is a general assumption that RN would be killed instead of Wiz, I think that ingenious to be fair

I think from everyone's POV the worst is already confirmed scum, since everyone had a chance to hammer him if he wasn't, so the discussion is up around who is with him, and the end game will probably be:

Me, Jackson, and RN

Why are you assuming RN will be killed? Also yes Ducky is a wolf.

[ZZZX]

By page 30, my thoughts are:

There is a general assumption that RN would be killed instead of Wiz, I think that ingenious to be fair

I think from everyone's POV the worst is already confirmed scum, since everyone had a chance to hammer him if he wasn't, so the discussion is up around who is with him, and the end game will probably be:

Me, Jackson, and RN

Why are you assuming RN will be killed? Also yes Ducky is a wolf.

No, RN was assuming he will be killed, he keeps talking about wanting to help Wiz sort out hte game before he is killed (RN is killed),

and I am simply saying that this is not how it will probably go

[ZZZX]

I just got no faith anymore. I feel we lose once we flip a wolf, which is a preposterous idea and it kills me to my very core. Imagine getting into the mindset of thinking we lose if we flip a wolf, that's literally insane.

Why do you sound so... hesitant?

I do agree we need to solve this game today, if we flip wolf, we need to know our next move clearly. but you seem to be really dancing around the topic somehow.

[JacksonVirgo]

I just got no faith anymore. I feel we lose once we flip a wolf, which is a preposterous idea and it kills me to my very core. Imagine getting into the mindset of thinking we lose if we flip a wolf, that's literally insane.

Why do you sound so... hesitant?

I do agree we need to solve this game today, if we flip wolf, we need to know our next move clearly. but you seem to be really dancing around the topic somehow.

I'm not dancing around the topic at all, it's very clear where I stand

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