Mini Normal 2310 | Day 7

[geraintm]

Thank god we have finally started.
My superpower is being 1st in queue, and then the sign up thread went dead quiet for months and I had nothing to do

Anyways, 13 players in the game you say?

[geraintm]

the I'll expect you'll be pretty active geraintm since you have nothing to do without mafia hehe

You've not played with me before have you?

[geraintm]

Anyone ever read games they wrote ten years ago?
Was everyone cringe or just me?

i wasn't here ten years ago but my old games do make me cringe lol.

VOTE: scorpius

[geraintm]

Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

Anyone ever read games they wrote ten years ago?
Was everyone cringe or just me?

i wasn't here ten years ago but my old games do make me cringe lol.

VOTE: scorpius

What’s the reasoning for these votes?

They fulfilled thr criteria to be voted

[geraintm]

Lol Dave is scum

Can't remember the last time I say stay in background and snipe Flavor Leaf

Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

Anyone ever read games they wrote ten years ago?
Was everyone cringe or just me?

i wasn't here ten years ago but my old games do make me cringe lol.

VOTE: scorpius

What’s the reasoning for these votes?

They fulfilled thr criteria to be voted

Can I borrow your scum checklist for a couple minutes?

But why are so many people getting their boxers in a twist over needing a reason for a vote or a read?

Makes me think people are getting a bit worried, if you pick up what I am putting down.

Also, getting pinged town by Hu Tao.

A checklist?
There was only 1 thing to check!

[geraintm]

VOTE: Klazam

I think they backed off after seeing people townread me and it didn't seem natural in the first place.

Ya know, I think I might sheep you for the time being.

VOTE: klazam

Also, Abeg hasn't been scum in forever and I know she wants it. I wouldn't past her rolling scum and then doing a bit of open wolfing tbh.

Naughty point for blatant sherping

[geraintm]

if anyone wants to start a wagon on dave or any of the inactive slots ill join

Naughty point.
Sorry for being prodded, weekend and I was reading but I didn't see anything to get excited about

[geraintm]

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

[geraintm]

Hu Tao
camelCasedSnivy
SzmarzLeek
Flavor Leaf
Abnegation

BlackStar
Doctor Drew
KittyTacky
Klazam

geraintm
Arko
davesaz

Am I 3rd most scummy to you?

[geraintm]

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

I've barely been paying attention

You come across as wanting to get anything going on anyone, with no reasoning required.
I dislike that

[geraintm]

Strangely I think flavor is town now.

Liking the replacement, I see the Dave stuff too, is why I’m on fence there.

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

Can you elaborate on “desperate to vote anyone”? Talking about camel or yourself?

Reading Camel's iso, it basically felt they really wanted to vote someone, anyone, and didn't care why.
I was not talking about myself.

[geraintm]

messed up quoting

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

I've barely been paying attention

You come across as wanting to get anything going on anyone, with no reasoning required.
I dislike that

how come is an active plastyle (compared to reactive one) scummy

I dislike that you dislike that

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

It isn't active. It is reactive, it wants to follow others leads on wagons.

[geraintm]

well i dont know what everyone wants and from the VC from earlier it seems our wants are rather dispersed

See, focus less on what others think

[geraintm]

arko ok

arko didnt really do anything and nono is just voting hu tao

its weird that theyre really only focusing on hu tao and not acknowledging anyone else so nulltown

why is that nulltown?

ope exactly what i said lmao

tunnels arent alignment indicative (unless some other piece influences it)

doesnt seem forced, seems the exact opposite: relaxed

Disagree. The posts they are saying I'm scum for don't make sense. I've seen scum strategies where they scumread the towniest person and everyone thinks they are town that's misled. Getting vibes of that here.

everything’s a scum tactic,, not taking a stance= scum, tunnelling= scum,, lazy…..
the moneys on which is more likely, why,, why am I scum and put your money where it matters xD

Day 1, nothing means anything.
Day 2 things become clearer

[geraintm]

Anyone down for a mass claim

Have you ever played Mafia before?

[geraintm]

Anyone down for a mass claim

Like....I am trying to remember a more baffling post I've seen on here and I cannot

[geraintm]

I wish I had experience with her play

Theres two games in my sig!

This is your third then?
And you think a day 1 mass claim is....Good?

[geraintm]

I think I had like 10 or so, on moba now but can check in a bit

Oh ,10 games.
Yeah....I have no idea how to ever deal with you now

[geraintm]

VOTE: ame

[geraintm]

VOTE: ame

Your vote sounds like it’s a vote for bad play not for scummy play.

It is bad play, and also I don't want to trust them later in the game if they come up with any more "good ideas"

[geraintm]

scum doesn't want to draw attention to themselves

Or do they......

[geraintm]

dude, you seem so sure you're convincing others and show no doubt

if you haven't said 55% I'd think you were at 90

Well, that’s your assumption.

I think only on very rare occasions should people be that confident on day 2. Most of the time, people who are that confident are silly little billies.

Its day 1. No one should be arguing strongly for anything. And agree day 2 is still blind for nearly everyone and no one should be shouting loudly about anything

[geraintm]

Second would be geraim: I feel their gamestyle doesn't revolve around getting more information, more around "whom I could get limmed", jumped on Camel when he was awkward in the thread (like "hopping on popular wagon vibes?") and then went to attack Ame for massclaim thing - not giving a second thought that I'd be a weird play for scum, but jumped on an opportunity to push someone into lim

If you think my PlayStyle is trying to get people eliminated on day 1.....then boy do you need to go read my past games

[geraintm]

Second would be geraim: I feel their gamestyle doesn't revolve around getting more information, more around "whom I could get limmed", jumped on Camel when he was awkward in the thread (like "hopping on popular wagon vibes?") and then went to attack Ame for massclaim thing - not giving a second thought that I'd be a weird play for scum, but jumped on an opportunity to push someone into lim

You understand I voted for them with their scumminess almost being irrelevant, right?

[geraintm]

i remember one time that leaf said if hes scum he tries to go for town mislim day 1

that being said, he could be doing a gambit but i doubt it so if leek flips scum i give FL heaps of towncred

VOTE: Leek

Umm.....wouldn't any scum player want a town mislim on D1??

Not camel, when they are scum they only ever vote off their partners!

[geraintm]

im not sure if gera read changed on me but i still dont like their posts

its like hes trying to do stuff without doing stuff?

I am not trying to do stuff. It is day 1

[geraintm]

im not sure if gera read changed on me but i still dont like their posts

its like hes trying to do stuff without doing stuff?

I am not trying to do stuff. It is day 1

If everyone played like this, how would we ever move beyond day 1

That is a very good question

[geraintm]

im not sure if gera read changed on me but i still dont like their posts

its like hes trying to do stuff without doing stuff?

I am not trying to do stuff. It is day 1

If everyone played like this, how would we ever move beyond day 1

That is a very good question

So, not to toot my own horn, but I'm very good at Day 1. Like I surprisingly take out mafs more often than not. But I get worse as the game progresses due to information overload. So how about you and I strike a little dealeo and you proxy your vote to me today and in exchange, I'll give you mine later on, a day of your choosing sometime before xylo

You can toot all you want, I'm not giving you my horn

[geraintm]

I tracked KittyTacky last night to blackstar

VOTE: kirtytacky

[geraintm]

I am assuming I am dead overnight, I would pay more attention to today otherwise.

I wonder if I should have let kitty post a little before dropping my result. You'll have to tell me later if I played it as I should have

[geraintm]

I am assuming I am dead overnight, I would pay more attention to today otherwise.

I wonder if I should have let kitty post a little before dropping my result. You'll have to tell me later if I played it as I should have

If I were you and had a guilty, I'd probably have softed it first. But to each their own

I was too.excited

[geraintm]

Well, thank-you doc.

Yes, have the loud modifier so scum knew I had followed them so there was no way Kitty was going to blunder something interesting yesterday.
Sad that we both targeted thr same person

Just getting ducks lined up so I know where to limit my travels tonight

Me
Nono - cop
Abe - already checked and didn't move last night
Hu toa - guilty from nono

You known doc

Nothing else right?

[geraintm]

Update, need to pay attention

Me
Nono claims cop with guilty on Hu Toa on night 1 - roleblocked night 2
Hu toa claims cop with guilty on Nono on night 1 - roleblocked night 2
Klazam - Miller

abe - checked by me night 2 and didnt move

an unknown doc

Nothing claime by the following.

Doctor Drew
Davesaz
Camel
Ame
Flavour Leaf

[geraintm]

im still here.
will wait for claims before i say anything from last night

[geraintm]

OOPS. I fake claimed and kept it up since nono sounded scum. I'm actually a Miller. Don't be mad.

You know we have to kill you, right

[geraintm]

Leaf's post makes sense, def we all come back after all the claims to work things out but i find it hard to believe i am voting anyone who fake claimed like that and got a cop killed.

[geraintm]

everyone has replied now i believe.
i tracked Dr Drew last night and got.......

nothing. he was a good boy and stayed home

[geraintm]

VOTE: hu toa

[geraintm]

People's paranoia about me involves me getting one of my partners killed day 2, and then kynother partner getting horribly caught up in a game of who's the cop and leave me to win this all by myself.

You are all being a little bit much if you thinknthat happened

[geraintm]

People's paranoia about me involves me getting one of my partners killed day 2, and then kynother partner getting horribly caught up in a game of who's the cop and leave me to win this all by myself.

You are all being a little bit much if you thinknthat happened

Agreed.

Any results to speak of?

Nope

[geraintm]

Town Loud Tracker
Town Neighborizer
Town Cop
Town Lazy Doc
Town Miller

Scum Goon (informed)
Scum Rolecop

Why is there a even night restriction from a balance pov?

I kinda wonder this myself.
I think is it because my roll has a high chance of outing a town roll (I spot someone leaving home at night and say and they get out) and we just got lucky that I caught scum?

[geraintm]

Why do you want me to 'get up on stage' if you are just gonna throw out false accusations of me. You even are explaining away the track on me lol.

The simplest solution is the correct solution, I am just VT.

Pre Edit: Lol, oh I see the answer is Enchant is just scum....I will let you guess which one of us is Enchant here

you not leaving the house doesn't clear you in my eyes. everyone knew my role by that point and it was obvious Hu Toa was dying day 4 so scum would send them out

[geraintm]

Okay- if I’m right we have two elims remaining, including a no-elim day to bring it to 3 players. We have some room to work.

My pool of potential scum is, in order from least likely to most likely, Abnegation -> Drew -> Flavor

Flavor I’m honestly being Uber paranoid about. I find myself agreeing too easily with

Abnegation is mostly cleared based on getting tracked nowhere the night Nono got roleblocked

yes. i wasn't blocked when i checked them, and by process of elimination Abnegation as the last scum would have to be the roleblocker right and so they are not just mostly cleared, they are straight up cleared?

Is my logic right there?

[geraintm]

everyone has replied now i believe.
i tracked Dr Drew last night and got.......

nothing. he was a good boy and stayed home

i just realised i 100% misread the message i got about Dr Drew.
It was not that they stayed home, it was no Result.
I have been blocked both night 3 and night 4

[geraintm]

everyone has replied now i believe.
i tracked Dr Drew last night and got.......

nothing. he was a good boy and stayed home

i just realised i 100% misread the message i got about Dr Drew.
It was not that they stayed home, it was no Result.
I have been blocked both night 3 and night 4

sorry

[geraintm]

I’ll do one better

I believe Doctor Drew is exactly a Multitasking Even Night Roleblocker.

not even night, i was blocked 2 nights in a row

[geraintm]

Because I believe in almost every situation here, you are the obvious choice for scum this game.

My plan of action here is:

Doctor Drew today

If game continues, you can fade me for your own security.

And then you get put into a 50/50 with Klazam/Davesaz.

I don’t believe it passes Drew, and I actively take the loss as scum with this plan, so it makes no sense for me to push it like that.


I’ll do one better

I believe Doctor Drew is exactly a Multitasking Even Night Roleblocker.

It will pass Drew.

Are you prepared to accept being faded tomorrow?

I know Drew is exactly a Vanilla Townie.

Let's see if that is the case

VOTE: Drew

i have no idea what this post is

[geraintm]

I don't coordinate anything with my scum buddy, outside of a quick vote in elo.

Specifically for reasons like what Flavor quoted, I would want to keep every interaction as natural as possible.

I see panic in Flavor's posting here.

they have been posting like this in the neighbourhood all game, even early doors

[geraintm]

i do townread klazam, based on:
- the miller claim

i have the exact opposite reaction

[geraintm]

right now, i am 100% never voting Abnegation the rest of the game.
i am 99% sure i am not voting Flavour today.

I sadly think now that scum are happy to just block me the rest of the game and let my uselessness infect town

[geraintm]

VOTE: drew
It feels the right way to start

[geraintm]

Geraint, what were your track results?

No result.
They know there is no other roles out there so I am effectively nullified and have been most of the game.

I assume we are skipping today to get it to a final 3?

[geraintm]

VOTE: no elimination

[geraintm]

i kinda want to skip today in the hope i get killed tonight and i dont need to worry about the ending

[geraintm]

Happy with gast night too

[geraintm]

My night action is already in

[geraintm]

Well, as I said I'm glad I wasn't there for thr last day to misvote that