Mini Normal 2313: I am sitting in a room (game over)

[Skygazer]

VC 3.06

gob

(2): Dannflor, Titus

Titus

(1): gob

Not Voting

(7): pisskop, AnimatedWiz, JacksonVirgo, Hu Tao, Merlyn, bob3141, Black

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to set someone's bed on fire. Day three ends in (expired on 2023-10-20 00:30:00).

mod notes: Yam club

[Hu Tao]

If gob flips town it's probably something like Titus/Dannflor/Wiz

Possibly but I think Dann has to be scum here which is why I want Titus to shoot Dann.

[pisskop]

oh I think the idea that we might have a Trader has some validity. We can at least explore it

Taking a look at this set up, without a doubt I think I'm the strongest person in this mechanically

[pisskop]

everyone else does either lion, or a very limited in what they can do.

How would a traitor be balanced in this game assuming 90% of the claims are true

[bob3141]

@bob, you shouldn't care. The fact you do care is troubling. You say gob is scum, but you won't lim him. Mechanically there's no reason not to lim gob.

If gob is scum, we have info.
If gob is town, we get a clear and lose a loss condition.

What is the clear win/lose conditions after that? I think I have an idea, but I don’t want to assume here.

most likely they are just both scum as there is no reason for vengful miller if there is no cop.

rolecop- miller is redundant
vanill cop- cant tell the difference between vengful and vengful miller
pt cop - can only tell if player has pt. miller has no effect on that

and this game dont look like one that has red hearings in it

one shot babysitter cop is no where near balanced and would make teh game so town sided it wouldnt pass reveiew

[pisskop]

lying* i'm using Siri speech to text lol

[Dannflor]

personally i think miller with a bunch of not-quite-cops is like... exactly what skygazer would do

[Dannflor]

why do i have to be scum, hu tao

[Titus]

@bob, you shouldn't care. The fact you do care is troubling. You say gob is scum, but you won't lim him. Mechanically there's no reason not to lim gob.

If gob is scum, we have info.
If gob is town, we get a clear and lose a loss condition.

What is the clear win/lose conditions after that? I think I have an idea, but I don’t want to assume here.

Rule 1 of mafia.

Count the bodies

.
We need 4 alive town if there are three scum.
We have 7 town and 3 scum.

Loss Condition One - Misfade me, lim gob

We are at 7. Limming me takes us to 6. I misvenge takes us to 5. Scum shoot taking us to 4.

If we misfade gob there, we fall to 3 v 3.

Loss Condition Two - Misfade gob, lim me. I misvenge.

If gob is town, the game is put in my hands squarely.

[Black]

I think Dann is obvscum and we're going to get steamrolled by the deep wolves

[bob3141]

everyone else does either lion, or a very limited in what they can do.

How would a traitor be balanced in this game assuming 90% of the claims are true

which claims

as masons are 2-minus a little

one shot role cop 0.5
pt cop 0.5
vannilla cop 0.5


vengul miller 0.5
one shot babysitter cop 1.5

all claims make guestimation of 5.5

minus the last 2

its 3.5 which would mean they woudl need a full strong role to not be hobbled

[bob3141]

guestimation should come out around 3-3.5 mark for town vs with expected 0.5 medium scum role. e.g. 1/2 vannila cop

[Titus]

I think Dann is obvscum and we're going to get steamrolled by the deep wolves

Not if I can help it.

We foreclose loss conditions.

[Hu Tao]

I won't vote Dannflor. It's weekend. No one is here. Just hammer already. You can come after me tomorrow if he flips town.

Stick to your word Titus. I am coming for you, accept your fate. Be the vote out today.

[bob3141]

personally i think miller with a bunch of not-quite-cops is like... exactly what skygazer would do

then we can find out

also when making my solev i forgot you were in teh game lol


its titus/gob/(dann/black) < meryl

[Titus]

Bob, if gob's claim is fake, you should have no problem voting there.

[Dannflor]

I think Dann is obvscum and we're going to get steamrolled by the deep wolves

sigh

[Dannflor]

who the hell are the deep wolves in your estimation

[JacksonVirgo]

titus is best flip today. at worst it puts us back on odds.

hu tao, pk and JV should be off. PK and JV shoudl choose the fourth that should not vote titus. with everyoen else havign a mandatory vote there so if titus isnt scum they have a full range to shoot in the non clears.

I'm leaning on shooting Hu Tao if I am limmed.

Yeah shooting the PT Cop clear is very smart

[Titus]

I won't vote Dannflor. It's weekend. No one is here. Just hammer already. You can come after me tomorrow if he flips town.

Stick to your word Titus. I am coming for you, accept your fate. Be the vote out today.

You can fight me and claim scum for all I care. I'm going to consider ALL actions but there's zero mech reason not to vote gob here.

[Hu Tao]

I'm thinking gob/titus/Dann at the moment. Merlyn I believe her activity isn't AI so she could be scum as well. Either way I think this nets us a win. Outside chance of Wiz

[Titus]

titus is best flip today. at worst it puts us back on odds.

hu tao, pk and JV should be off. PK and JV shoudl choose the fourth that should not vote titus. with everyoen else havign a mandatory vote there so if titus isnt scum they have a full range to shoot in the non clears.

I'm leaning on shooting Hu Tao if I am limmed.

Yeah shooting the PT Cop clear is very smart

It's as smart as saving gob. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[Dannflor]

we could lim titus and have titus shoot me and then maybe you all will get out of your horrible tunnels and actually eliminate the first scum of the game

[Dannflor]

I'm not as confident on Animated!town anymore for whatever that is worth to anyone

[Hu Tao]

we could lim titus and have titus shoot me and then maybe you all will get out of your horrible tunnels and actually eliminate the first scum of the game

Sounds good to me