bionicchop2 wrote:so, hider says jump and everybody jumps?
vote camn
as a follow over from yesterday. Ortolan, I would like to know your reasons for voting crazy.
Xtoxm I would like to know yours which were never expresed yesterday.
I just gave them in the preceding post...
I didn't think you were scum, and thus the scum are to be found in Crazy, xtoxm and I wouldn't rule out camn either. However, I prefer either of Crazy or xtoxm first (for lurking very hard thoughout the game, and camn did at least facilitate the hypoclaim) and as afatchic already began the bandwagon on Crazy, I was happy to follow
I would also be happy to switch to xtoxm...
I will consider changing/ further supporting my vote as I read the more recent posts
BC2 wrote:1. Camn - could drop down, but I feel like everybody is ignoring her as a suspect. Could be the posting style of overly joking that has my read on scum.
I haven't been ignoring her as a suspect...
OP wrote:I don't think we should rule out ortolan as scum. If ort is scum, I am thinking his partners (either bio or xtoxm) are trying to get the idea that ort is town out there, that way, when either of them is eventually lynched, there partner is saved for the win. Now, I think there is a good chance crazy is scum still.
I honestly don't understand why you've been tunneling on me since you first started to post actual cases- most of the points you made to begin with were arguments that had already made by others and I believe shown to not hold much weight. There's also the evidence for me being town that I was very forceful in wanting TCS lynched until I interpreted that he was the hider, I don't see what scum could possibly have to gain by putting that information on the table freely.
On the hider thing: I agree with xtoxm: if fat tells us who he's going to hide behind then the scum definitely get two night-kills no matter what (and we have no watchers so if the person they hide behind is town we get no information and just gave the mafia another kill). Furthermore all this does is bring the game into even numbers and I believe it's better to maintain odd numbers? At the moment we are on 7 townies 2 scum. If the hider tells us who he's going to hide behind and they're town, and we misslynch, then tomorrow we're on 4 townies 2 scum, and if we misslynch again we lose. However if the hider doesn't tell us who he's going to hide behind (or even just doesn't hide behind anyone so whatever happens the scum can only get one night kill that night), and we misslynch, then we've got 5 townies to 2 scum, and can go another day on 3 townies to 2 scum even if we misslynch. Thus I don't think the benefits of using the hider as a kamikaze cop in any outweigh the benefits. In fact, with the extra day allowed in the worst case scenario by the hider not hiding, in allowing us an extra misslynch, we are getting the detective function we could have gotten from the hider anyway. Please question me if this is not clear. But I'm certainly not in favour of the hider telling us who he will hide behind.
ETA: Put camn at 5, with ort at 4.
Perhaps I misinterpreted the post where you placed me under continued suspicious. I certainly would have thought from that that you'd have me higher than a 4.
And after re-reading I'm still happy with either Crazy or xtoxm, perhaps I lean slightly towards xtoxm now after post 600 (I still trust bionic, even though this post may be mere wifom)
so at this stage
+3 xtoxm
+2 Crazy
+1 camn
I will reconsider bionic though to see if I've misinterpreted him as town