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Post Post #6825 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:22 pm

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In post 6822, davesaz wrote: Let me enlarge the text to make things a little clearer.
i feel like top townread & very strong townread are pretty equitable. why do you strongly townread shaddowez?

i really struggle to like, intimately scumcase shadd i don't think scum are particularly obvious in this game i just do not townread him at all and i'm in a place where i'm looking for a bit more nuance than what he's given us
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Post Post #6826 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:49 pm

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@Mod, isn't shadow due for a prod / replacement?
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Post Post #6827 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:55 pm

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Sorry, just a prod.
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Post Post #6828 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:04 pm

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In post 6788, Enchant wrote: I suddenly realised that i sit pn wagon with people i don't really townread
Who DO you townread?
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Post Post #6829 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:41 pm

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In post 6825, the worst wrote:
In post 6822, davesaz wrote: Let me enlarge the text to make things a little clearer.
i feel like top townread & very strong townread are pretty equitable. why do you strongly townread shaddowez?

i really struggle to like, intimately scumcase shadd i don't think scum are particularly obvious in this game i just do not townread him at all and i'm in a place where i'm looking for a bit more nuance than what he's given us
Agreed that scum isnt obvious, when we went for “obvious”, lims flipped green untill CSF got outed, but tbh it kinda feels like luck more than anything.
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Post Post #6830 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:59 pm

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In post 6825, the worst wrote:
In post 6822, davesaz wrote: Let me enlarge the text to make things a little clearer.
i feel like top townread & very strong townread are pretty equitable. why do you strongly townread shaddowez?

i really struggle to like, intimately scumcase shadd i don't think scum are particularly obvious in this game i just do not townread him at all and i'm in a place where i'm looking for a bit more nuance than what he's given us


and repeated in says that shadow is a
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You flat out aren't reading what I'm posting, and that's bugging me big time.
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Post Post #6831 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:06 pm

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In post 6829, Naerys wrote:
In post 6825, the worst wrote:
In post 6822, davesaz wrote: Let me enlarge the text to make things a little clearer.
i feel like top townread & very strong townread are pretty equitable. why do you strongly townread shaddowez?

i really struggle to like, intimately scumcase shadd i don't think scum are particularly obvious in this game i just do not townread him at all and i'm in a place where i'm looking for a bit more nuance than what he's given us
Agreed that scum isnt obvious, when we went for “obvious”, lims flipped green untill CSF got outed, but tbh it kinda feels like luck more than anything.
i think we may have different opinions about what's obvious in this game tbh

psyche & save the dragons were wagoned because the playerlist went after them based on really weird jank sideways reasoning
+ fake guilty on psyche but even with that... :/
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Post Post #6832 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:09 pm

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In post 6830, davesaz wrote:
In post 6825, the worst wrote:
In post 6822, davesaz wrote: Let me enlarge the text to make things a little clearer.
i feel like top townread & very strong townread are pretty equitable. why do you strongly townread shaddowez?

i really struggle to like, intimately scumcase shadd i don't think scum are particularly obvious in this game i just do not townread him at all and i'm in a place where i'm looking for a bit more nuance than what he's given us
and repeated in says that shadow is a
weak
town read, primarily because I already have more than enough scumreads.
You flat out aren't reading what I'm posting, and that's bugging me big time.
look this game is long as hell, i'm very tired, so i'm more focused on treading water & interacting than reading posts very closely. reading posts super closely isn't my jam at the best of times, but especially not here.

if shaddowez isn't a strong townread then what are your strong reads? there's probably about 4 scum alive. can we find some players who you've got in your POE incorrectly?
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Post Post #6833 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:37 pm

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Snives, could you please link your 2 completed scum games?
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Post Post #6834 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:38 pm

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I agree with worst that std was an obvious misflip and not an obvious scumflip
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Post Post #6835 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:40 pm

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Honestly I wouldn't mind a policy lim on shadow, I think it gas a atrong chance to flip scum due to PoE anyway, but let's give him 24 hours to respond first.
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Post Post #6836 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:33 pm

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Shadow looks more and more like a solid lim, but i agree with dragon that its better to give him chance to come and write
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Post Post #6837 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:24 pm

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In post 6835, DragonEater70 wrote:
Honestly I wouldn't mind a policy lim on shadow
, I think it gas a atrong chance to flip scum due to PoE anyway, but let's give him 24 hours to respond first.
In post 6836, Naerys wrote:
Shadow looks more and more like a solid lim
, but i agree with dragon that its better to give him chance to come and write


Oh I bet you two would think that.
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Post Post #6838 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:26 pm

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In post 6837, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 6835, DragonEater70 wrote:
Honestly I wouldn't mind a policy lim on shadow
, I think it gas a atrong chance to flip scum due to PoE anyway, but let's give him 24 hours to respond first.
In post 6836, Naerys wrote:
Shadow looks more and more like a solid lim
, but i agree with dragon that its better to give him chance to come and write


Oh I bet you two would think that.
What's that supposed to mean?

Do you have a read on Shadow?
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Post Post #6839 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:30 pm

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Nurse I am not sure if you fully understood, but right now I think that
{Nurse, Dragon, Lich, Naerys, the worst} are all town

So from my POV, there's 4 scum in these six:
Gob, Davesaz, Snivy, shadow, Enchant, pisskop.

Considering that pisskop is widely townread and that Gob/Davesaz feels like a 50/50 (at least to me), then statistically shadow has over 66% chance to be scum, which is pretty good.

If you have a scumread you can actually justify out of the 6 people I listed, I would be more than eager to listen to your case.
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Post Post #6840 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:33 pm

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Might i remind you nurse that bob me argued and i felt like he SR me
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Post Post #6841 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:33 pm

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Actually Gob and Dave could be blue vs red scum.

So the odds aren't *that* good.
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Post Post #6842 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:41 pm

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"What's that supposed to mean?"

Let me spell it out for you;I see both you and Naerys inexplicably warming up to the idea of eliminating Shadow. Granted, he's lurking and that's not cool, but if he's a town lurker I can see Scum being more than happy to move on over to that eliminator.
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Post Post #6843 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:46 pm

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Well, I did explain my reasoning above

If he's a town lurker we'll hopefully find out when he comes back.

I'll PM the mod to ask for a prod.
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Post Post #6844 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:33 pm

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In post 6842, Random Nurse wrote: "What's that supposed to mean?"

Let me spell it out for you;I see both you and Naerys inexplicably warming up to the idea of eliminating Shadow. Granted, he's lurking and that's not cool, but if he's a town lurker I can see Scum being more than happy to move on over to that eliminator.
The only hammerer wagon shadow sat on, was CSF. I believe this warrants some questioning.
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Post Post #6845 (ISO) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:34 pm

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Hammered*
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Post Post #6846 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:39 am

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Post Post #6847 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:41 am

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combined total of 22 scum posts (and i would claim 3 are game irrelevant)
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Post Post #6848 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:32 am

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Thanks, I did get quite a bit from that.

Where do you stand wrt reads? Except sheeping dead town on Dave, which is understandable.
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Post Post #6849 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:12 am

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Back from V/LA - tried keeping up, but definitely didn't catch everything. I will address the things I noticed regarding me, since those don't require a deep dive:

Lurking
- If you look at my ISO, 99% of my posts are between 0800-1700 M-F. This is a game, which I play while I'm at my computer, and take the rest of the time with my family. If I happen to have down time maybe I'll hop on, but generally I don't even get on a computer outside of that time. I made a comment early on that it seems I'm posting opposite hours of much of the game, but when I'm here I do try to engage with anyone else posting at the same time. If that's lurking, then I guess I'm a lurker.

Wagons
- D1: I was never a fan of the IAVH wagon, and felt like he was being pushed for not much content on D1. The last several votes all happened over the weekend (see my
Lurking
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D2: I unvoted earlier on that (Real) day in , then all
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D3: Gonna be honest, I don't remember much about this day. I know I was voting StD and reconsidered, but can't say much more about it without re-reading.
D4: CSF was not in my townlist, and based on how I read her I was willing to vote there. I'm also going to share this:
In post 5594, shaddowez wrote: ...what the fuck? JV has some 'splaining to do post game.

Alright, our pool is getting pretty small. Snivy, dave, and CSF have all had failed attempted wagons on them (I may be missing someone too). The people I'm not currently willing to entertain at all right now are RN, TL, or pisskop.
Which brings me to my next point, my unlim pool has not changed from that: pisskop, TL, and RN.

I feel like I'm missing something, but will get to it as I go through stuff again.
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