BooneyToonz XVII: The Winston Chronicles [END]

[Theta Alpine]

i am

going to assume that scums night kill got blocked or a protective stopped it or such
because titus does not make the most sense as a night kill
then again i was kind of not seeing much sense in night 1s kill so hmm

hpe was the only valid non-miller target for titus and combined with elements also receiving no result from them uh
hmm

i mean i really want to push ccs again but this is
so very close to just being a guilty straight out
if there had been two kills it would just be a guilty so the question is how likely was there to be a protective or similar that halted the night kill

p-edit
would rather not quick end the day still

[The Stage]

I'm a bit confused how do we know HPE wasn't demillerized?

elements claims night 2 cop who targeted hpe and received no result. either scum roleblocked elements, elements is lying scum, or hpe is ascetic

in possibility 1, if hpe is town, scum have no reason to roleblock elements and give an ambiguous result when scum can just roleblock tanuki and give elements a false hard guilty.

possibility 2 i find highly unlikely mainly because i've been townreading elements all game and night 2 cop is a strange claim for scum to make

possibility 3 is unlikely but it also means that hpe is scum because town ascetics should always claim on day 1

[Theta Alpine]

i would also question why a town ascetic would have or claim miller

given uh
outside of a few weird roles ascetic will trump any reason to have miller and would definitely be something to claim at the very least the moment tanuki announced a plan to target hpe with a demillerize

[Merlyn]

So- either HPE, Elements, or Tanuki is lying. Right?

[camelCasedSnivy]

i read everything and im still confused

[The Stage]

So- either HPE, Elements, or Tanuki is lying. Right?

yes i think so, aside from some edge cases where scum decide to roleblock town elements while hpe is town too for some reason

[Theta Alpine]

that is
the only way i can see this making sense unless a town roleblocker or such is muddying things up in which case they should probably claim now

a scum roleblocker in a town hpe and town elements world would have just hit tanuki night 1 and let elements get a fake guilty on hpe so yeah

in a scum hpe world then blocking elements does make sense actually
but kind of makes it a bit damning that titus then dies the night that they could only safely check hpe

but actually why not kill elements
unless of course that got stopped by a protective but hmm then why roleblock elements

scum hpe currently makes the most sense but guh having to try and figure out if titus was the night kill or if someone else was and got blocked

should a protective claim if they targeted elements or tanuki or such hmmmm

[Merlyn]

Tanuki, why have you unvoted?

[Deal With The Devil]

Did Elements claim they were going to check HPE? Or are we thinking scum would just assume they'd check HPE?

- Alianna

[Deal With The Devil]

So- either HPE, Elements, or Tanuki is lying. Right?

I haven't read everything from today yet, probably should before I make judgements, but this seems right.
If HPE flips town and isn't an ascetic who faked miller for some reason, then Elements' no-result claim looks pretty bad because of this:

a scum roleblocker in a town hpe and town elements world would have just hit tanuki night 1 and let elements get a fake guilty on hpe so yeah

But there is also a world where Tanuki wasn't roleblocked because they're scum.

- Alianna

[Theta Alpine]

hpe was the only valid target for elements given everyone else alive had claimed miller and hpe was the only demillier target

but also
titus thus had the same situation where hpe was the only valid target
and actually
it now makes sense why titus thought her role was not as negative utility as vip thought it was

titus had the info that nearly everyone had claimed miller and there was only a single demilleriser which made her choice of targets easy for us to figure out post-mortem


treat me as wanting to vote hpe but not wanting to accidentally hammer and end day early

[Merlyn]

hpe was the only valid target for elements given everyone else alive had claimed miller and hpe was the only demillier target

but also
titus thus had the same situation where hpe was the only valid target
and actually
it now makes sense why titus thought her role was not as negative utility as vip thought it was

titus had the info that nearly everyone had claimed miller and there was only a single demilleriser which made her choice of targets easy for us to figure out post-mortem


treat me as wanting to vote hpe but not wanting to accidentally hammer and end day early

So then shouldn't there two kills? One where Titus targeted HPE, and one from the scum?

[Theta Alpine]

we do need to be careful because if we are wrong with this logic and go through with limming all of these and all are town then that either brings us to limlo or game end depending on how many scum there are

which

brings me to the wifom of
what if scum thought about that and thus chose to block elements in a world where all of them are town

p-edit

it is possible that there is a protective in play or other such reason for scums night kill to have failed
or just uh
titus did get shot by scum but i am not sure why that would be the case
like maybe but hmm

[Deal With The Devil]

I think a failed nightkill is pretty reasonable.

- Alianna

[The Stage]

i am pretty sure there was a failed nightkill, yeah

[Theta Alpine]

mmh i am reading too much into this i think

we probably just elim hpe
get a scum flip
and that is that

i can save speculation on further causes for if such speculation is needed

[Theta Alpine]

let me actually get around to counting the votes on hpe and then put a vote if it is safe to do so

[Gamma Emerald]

I was kinda thinking Gimli was town after he slipped miller or scum so I am upset he got voted out

[Theta Alpine]

yeahhh

i was getting very wishy washy on gimli especially after the repeated miller slips and was even composing a hammer vote on gimli that i was debating sending when uh

boon sniped it from me

gimli was either stubborn town or scum playing a good game and unfortunately it ended up being the former which
is why i had wanted ccs in the first place cause that slot seemed much more certain to be scum


also hpe only has three votes if i count correctly not sure why i was so hesitant
VOTE: hpe e-3

[HighPrincessErinys]

huh

what if titus visited HPE thinking it was demillerized and died bc HPE is scum? like in this setup i could see an ascetic mafia being a thing which would explain elements' result too

wheres the fucking nightkill then pal

[Gamma Emerald]

Technically the first could mean HPE Is town, but like just want it dead anyways for not claiming ascetic

Why wouldn’t it have claimed that?

[HighPrincessErinys]

my ass getting e-3'd before even getting to look at thread SOB

[HighPrincessErinys]

Checked HPE
Received no result

HPE got some splaining to do

what did elements even fucking claim?? what is going on??

[pisskop]

I was kinda thinking Gimli was town after he slipped miller or scum so I am upset he got voted out

Only goes so far lol, but I agree.

[HighPrincessErinys]

this one is a miller with NO modifiers, if theres any ascetic part of my existence then its probably hidden because there ain't nothin in my role PM saying anything about anything short of me being miller