Toriel's Patience (end)

[Taly]

UNVOTE:

I mainly casted my vote to see if anyone would bite but this list is familiar with

Ali

.

VOTE: Meuh

I keep coming back here. I don't think

implosion's

replies give off any big alarms upon reading them.

[Mandate]

Best parrot.

[Taly]

Who?

[Mandate]

No, Who isn't in this game.

[Taly]

I'm a toucan, not a parrot *malds*

[Mandate]

I'm bad at this game.

[Sakura Hana]

Man, this is the downside of being a consensus townread i feel like people keep pulling my arms in different directions until they rip them off my body or something.
Either way, i'm not placing down a vote until i finish my nap.

[implosion]

Also like as a general rule I'm not saying never but town rarely write things like all the stuff Meuh wrote about the metaphor of the seeds and the watering and the sprouting, it happens on rare occasions

I can think of some reasons why this would be the case but am curious why specifically you think this is something that would be really rare from town.

[Mandate]

I don't have the answers, only the benefit of experience.

[implosion]

How do you feel, metaphorically, about those seeds sprouting into the tree that is your avatar

[Mandate]

Sorry not trying to bully you nap well

[Merlyn]

I'm gonna let the stuff implosion said percolate a bit

[Taly]

just finished danganronpa V2 and i am emotionally compromised

time for V3

[Sakura Hana]

Okay, reading that with a fresh mind, i guess it makes sense.
VOTE: Meuh

[Alisae]

i play later tonight frfr

[Taly]

See, I'm a fucking

Alisae

whisperer

[Meuh]

Dear Meuh, you spend two of the few content posts you've arguing against Sakura and in the first "perplexed" sounds like it has a negative connotation, but by the end...you find her townie?

Hmmmm

Were you planning to betray me again?!

VOTE: Meuh

The word “perplexed” is deliberate there, it’s negative in terms of her ideas, that seem out there to me, but not her actual alignment.
I argue against

Keyleth’s argument

(which was bad regardless of Sakura’s alignment), then took a look at the ISO and got vague townvibes
You’re imagining implications for reads from the surface of my posting and not the actual thought process I have, there’s no read on Sakura that I actually voice before I agree with Ari, you’re drawing that line, and you’re wrong for doing that! Raises your scum equity a bunch cause I think you’re capable of more substantial reads, was wondering who would react when I agreed with Ari on Sakura, but this is sad…

Now here's the one that I actually found very off.

I think that Meuh's argument is actually objectively correct here. She said someone was, basically, weird. She then turned around and townread them. Which is fine I think that is a good progression that can easily come from town. What really stands out about this is the lack of teeth with regards to Shirou. She takes this bizarre middle ground where she calls him wrong, says he's imagining things, then calls him more equity scum because "he's capable of more substantial reads". All of this doesn't sit right at all, I think that if Meuh is town she is neither so performative about explaining what she was ""actually thinking"" and rather forces Shirou to justify his own position nor so wishy washy with regards to Shirou. I think that ending this by saying that it raises his scum equity a bunch without being willing to vote him is bizarre. I think that Meuh is factually not interested in solving Shirou by the way she played it but is also strangely defensive and I get big scum caught for wrong reasons / cross bus vibes from all of this.

I genuinely just don't know how to sort Shirou tbh
I've played twice with Shirou? One was a brief replace in as third party and the other was the game we've already brought up where I was scum, neither of which I really tried to sort Shirou so I have no real idea on how to do it now, and his posts are just kinda there. I would've wanted to push more had it not been for Shirou explaining the read on me and it being more sensical.

[Meuh]

Gut from pages 1-4 is Dann town (though I think I remember seeing that's someone consensus?)

I think sakura is already (widely?) townread but this cements it pretty hard for me sort of in the vein of the philosophy that I think Shirou mentioned earlier of trying to read people off a few key posts, which I think I kind of agree with or at least am interested in thinking about as a philosophy of forum mafia.

Anyone else find this scummy? Implo invoking how much a player is already being townread/thread consensus on an issue when posting his take on it is kind of off to me. It's not really a consideration I have when posting reads as town. It comes more from scum thinking about the optics and the ramifications of their read than a townie just dropping some thoughts.

Idk!
Idk. This is very fake and performative. I don't know what else to say about it. I don't think this is how town!Meuh presents thoughts like this if she has them. The content itself is like, milquetoast but the presentation pings me like mad.

Yeah I'm looking at Implo's ISO and there's nothing town indicative there!
The more substantial reads are townreads that are just really easy to make from an informed perspective. I don't think any of said townreads are pushing boundaries to an extent where I think Implo is particularly trying to sort people
The scumreads are just kind of boring and weak? Implo has little actual insight on it, I think the most substantial scum argument so far is the one against me which is super weak
There's just nothing there that actually indicates Implo thinking about the game like a townie

More fake performative etc.

More importantly is the phrasing of the scumreads. She says it's "easy to make from an informed perspective". Even ignoring the weird question of what that is even supposed to mean, the case is basically that Implosions townreads are all generally townread and his scumreads are weak. Which, well, sure. But this case is applicable to at least half of the lobby and it's something we're talking about constantly. It also caps off with "nothing actually indicates Implosion thinking of this game like a townie" which again like the earlier thing she isn't saying Implosion is scum she's saying there's no evidence Implosion is town and I verified this is not something that she does as a meta thing.

I think not being townie is much more pertinent in a game state where the issue we have is too many townreads

[Meuh]

I've also gone back and forth in my head a lot but Meuh saying stuff like "implosion doesn't have thoughts outside of thread" essentially trying to use the opposite of my logic on Dannflor is kinda out there. Like I can't call it scummy because it's just too out there but... I really struggle with believing Meuh sees me making that read and then immediately turns around and uses it against someone and it reads like just words to me, particularly when I feel like Implosion doesn't really exist exceptionally in the space of lacking an out of game continuity to his posting. And that's what Meuhs case really looks like to me, there's a lot of words but in the end the case boils down to Implosions positioning is rather milquetoast and I don't think it takes 700 words to say that, I think that town!Meuh just says I think this dude is taking boring positions and not really doing anything and I wanna vote him for it.

This game is going too fast

I unironically wish the game was literally double the length

That's an argument you used on Dannflor? This is a very self-centered reading of this lmao I didn't have any argument you used in mind there, it's just something I noticed

[Meuh]

Also like as a general rule I'm not saying never but town rarely write things like all the stuff Meuh wrote about the metaphor of the seeds and the watering and the sprouting, it happens on rare occasions

I can think of some reasons why this would be the case but am curious why specifically you think this is something that would be really rare from town.

Really rude to scumread me for being all poetic tbh

[Meuh]

I think the fact I'm being townread by the three players who are probably best equipped to form a good read on me from past experience (Ari, Merlyn, Dunn) is telling

[Meuh]

Making me realize how little of this playlist I've actually played with before
Meh you can mislim me and then next time I play with you all, maybe you won't

[Meuh]

I feel like I've used weird analogies and stuff as town before, I like using flowery (hehe get it?) words to explain my thought processes

[Taly]

>: but I don't want to mislim people

[Meuh]

Should probably move your vote then :3