Toriel's Patience (end)

[Sakura Hana]

Making me realize how little of this playlist I've actually played with before
Meh you can mislim me and then next time I play with you all, maybe you won't

If you and implo are town then who's scum

[Meuh]

Meuh

how do you feel about 1236? And

Merlyn

as a whole by extension?

Echoing this

I do still feel like Merlyn is just town and I'm uninterested in pushing there
I would act all high and mighty because I caught scum Merlyn in another game, but I mostly caught her off of the person she replaced's ISO so I can't even take credit here

I like beeboy. The push on him doesn't feel right. It might be town that's just happy to put there vote somewhere

I don't agree with

Sakura

or

Mandate

pushes.

How do you feel about

Meuh

?

Do you think they were scum driven?

I feel iffy. I feel like I am actually good at reading town Meuh. She's kind of spicy with takes but tends to be right. So I'm kind of waiting for that to happen and if it doesn't then I'll know

(I'm also very much pocketed by the idea of me having good reads)

I feel like these posts are relevant to quote
I do think those spicy takes are a trait of my town game so it feels accurate?
Merlyn notably feels less stiff than the scum game I played against her, I'd say? I don't think I was super great at parsing her there but her posting here generally feels more natural, I like it.
She also got a taste of my scumgame in this game (viewtopic.php?t=91116) before she cross-killed me!!!! which also justifies her confidence here

[Meuh]

Making me realize how little of this playlist I've actually played with before
Meh you can mislim me and then next time I play with you all, maybe you won't

If you and implo are town then who's scum

Fuck if I know
Beeboy I guess?

[Meuh]

Shirou could also just be scum yeah
Alisae but that's laaaaaaaaame

[Taly]

I'm going to fade into oblivion

[Meuh]

Taly please find scum :(

[Taly]

Here's my hangup with the game

Aristeia

- I feel like her pushing me to scumhunt was +above rand town because of how authentic her gripe felt compared to people who were seemingly parroting townreads at the time.

beeboy

- I think a lot of their posts can be fakeable from a stronger scum POV but I do think some of their posting has conveyed a level of confidence that I don't think makes a lot of sense to come from scum who actually wants to spout the narrative their wagon is scum.

Alisae

- This is probably eir towngame from how eir WIM can be based on alignment but I can imagine a world where eir scum with players they didnt want to be scum with and are less motivated via that pathway.

Meuh

- Has moments of deep thought but I wonder about the progression as I feel it may come from a scum-aligned one. But I also find sincerity in some non-serious posting.

Lady Shirou

- I liked their emotional reaction to me because it felt sincere but as time has passed, I've considered the prospect that that might be a personality-tell rather than an AI one. Thus, investigating this slot seems best but I have no big idea on their stances even when reading their posts.

Brown Eyes

- I don't want to push this slot because they haven't even finished catching up with the game yet.

implosion

- I feel like some of their stances are convenient as mentioned yet I find too many moments where I think the responses to suspicion are reasonable or not scum afraid that they've been caught.

Dannflor

- They're VLA so it seems odd to push them but I still have suspect this slot from how on/off their relationship to the thread is and their activiy feels based around the discussion versus them having a coherent read progression from live interactions.

[Taly]

I keep hearing too many "I agree" or "this is difficult" or "lack of scumreads" -- which I've absolutely contributed to.

But I need to think of a defined PoE and go from there.

And tbh,

Key/Dunn/Sakura/Mandate/Ari

are just about the only people I'd not consider limming atp in D1. That's too small for my comfort and too many ISOs to dive off shaky feeling evidence at best.

[Taly]

Sakura

mimics my many towngames where I am a UTR and really do not think that is feigned or played up from the gamestate.

Mandate

is just hard to describe anything other than town from how idiosyncratic their perceptions and paranoia can be.

Key

has a depth and sequential ordering of thought to how they conceptualize the game that I feel like they'd have augmented now under pressure but haven't.

Dunn

is not like the several scum-games I know of him.

Ari

is the person who has singualrly worked with me the most via responding to my questions and prompts the most and has actively helped me solve the game at certain points.

[beeboy]

I don't know if I want to vote Mandate again.

[beeboy]

I meant, Meuh.

[Taly]

If it's not

beeboy

,

implosion

, or

meuh

, I'm saying

Dann

.

And this group is actually... probably a good first ISO group because it's what I'd consider lower in my PoE to want to vote.

Adding

Shirou

would be a bit much so maybe break this into 2 groups.

[Taly]

VOTE: Dannflor

[Meuh]

Curious about you not mentioning Merlyn anywhere there

[beeboy]

The influx of votes on them makes me uncomfortable especially with both Implosion and Mandate wanting to vote there.
So it's like even if I still scum read Meuh I'm worried about how my other scum reads voting there which is making me want to re-evaluate.

[Taly]

I don't have the time or energy to ISO though, so I need another real-time interaction approach.

Curious about you not mentioning Merlyn anywhere there

I literally forget they're in the game often, so they're in the PoE

[Meuh]

I definitely need to give Dann a second glance, though.

[Mandate]

Well I don't wanna Lim Dann and Meuhs response has done nothing to make me reconsider

If anything in a vacuum I'd say I'm more enthused but I think it would be more accurate to say my enthusiasm hasn't shifted

[Taly]

Why is

Dann

town?

[Meuh]

Beeboy/me towncore so real

For real this time?

[Meuh]

Mandate get better reads

[Taly]

Merlyn

- Why withhold thoughts related to

implosion

case?

BE

- Do you think a page-by-page read is doable here, and if not, what is another way I can help you to catch-up?

meuh

- How do you feel about

Dann

? I want more than a "needs a second glance."

beeboy

- Why is the wagon enough to make you re-evaluate, when theoretically a bus could occur within your scumreads?

Shirou

- What are your reads at this point in time?

implosion

- How do you feel about

Meuh's

case on you? Is it AI in any major form or is it independent from the POV you already have on that slot?

[Mandate]

I don't think he can fake everything he did

That said I really think his play just isn't scummy and he should be given the time he needs?

[Taly]

What can town agree on

?

We should all be giving 3 names for a D1 PoE elimination.

[Taly]

give me pagetop