Open 891: STDBINSBICACOT (Game Over)

[Roden]

Well that didn't code right, but whatever, the link still works

[Black]

We should fade Titus here

[Black]

Wait. I just thought of a scenario where she could be telling the truth and actually fucked up. I uh...I still can't go into details unfortunately

I think the play is probably to let Titus live for now

UNVOTE:

[Dannflor]

i would agree

idk i don't mean to be uncooperative but i still want shaddow and don't have a good reason to town read the slot

[davesaz]

I don't townread Titus but think we're better off keeping her for now.

When I said on Saturday that I didn't want an E-1 then, that was much more about the timing than the wagon itself. I'd be ok with limming shaddow lacking a reason not to.

Black's votehopping makes me question if I'm TRing her too strongly, but she'd still be a lean town at worst.

Reminding myself that just because it juices like a beetle doesn't mean it's scum. (several candidates for that one, too many to pick)

I think Alisae and Crescent are slightly on the town side of center, after falling back a bit due to thinking maybe one or both was trying to manipulate. They're still both in the zone where I'd probably want someone else to flip first.

If all that sounds a little vague it's partly because it's dinner time and partly because the last 12ish hours have left me with tennis neck.

[Black]

Black's votehopping makes me question if I'm TRing her too strongly, but she'd still be a lean town at worst

Why is vote hopping scummy?

[Black]

VOTE: shaddow

That's e-2 I believe

[pisskop]

Run up in multiple games. So I put my role in another game. :/ So I had to claim here.

Yeah.

[pisskop]

Wrong quote, I meant to acknowledge the claim.

For whatever reason, titus claimed and I think we can keep her around for a night or five

[Roden]

VOTE: Shaddow

[davesaz]

Intent

[gob]

Anti-intent

UNVOTE: shaddowez

[Black]

No hammers until a claim and final reads

[Something_Smart]

Well I'm less than thrilled with the events of the last few pages, but I agree that Titus should be left alone for now. Even if she's a scum rolecop her ability to benefit scum is severely curtailed by her need to share her results.

[davesaz]

Got any reads you want to share?

[davesaz]

I don't like how the game goes silent. Could just be synchronicity but this is a lot of people to share the same activity pattern.

[Dannflor]

shaddowez flip waiting room

[Something_Smart]

Got any reads you want to share?

I townlean gob and Black for aggression that doesn't seem strategically directed. I townlean you as previously mentioned. I think Titus is more likely town than random? But the whole situation is icky and I don't want to think about it.

After I've typed this I realize that these are the three top posters (and Titus is 5th), and I have almost no recollection of what most of the bottom half of the activity chart has done. So there's probably some kind of recency bias going on but it's D1 so.

And actually I could buy the argument that higher postcount is correlated with being town in this game, because as you mentioned there are multiple times when it seemed like the bottom dropped out of the game and those louder voices have been the ones actually keeping the game going when it might otherwise have just died in apathy.

[Titus]

Well I'm less than thrilled with the events of the last few pages, but I agree that Titus should be left alone for now. Even if she's a scum rolecop her ability to benefit scum is severely curtailed by her need to share her results.

There is no scum rolecop in this setup.

[Something_Smart]

There is a scum rolecop in this setup.

[Black]

There is a scum rolecop but I feel like with the Informed role it doesn't really matter. If Titus is scum here I would fully expect her to go for the Informed perk which means she would know exactly what she can safely fake claim

[Something_Smart]

The relevance of a scum rolecop isn't in the ability to safely fakeclaim, it's in the ability to fake results. If Titus is scum and there isn't a rolecop on her team, she'll need to either report results on her buddies or make stuff up (or cop-out and say she investigated the person who died I guess, or say she was roleblocked).

[Black]

Yes I agree

[Titus]

Roleblocker
Rolecop Tracker (rolecops and tracks a single target)
Ascetic Informed (knows the full setup)
Bulletproof Godfather (appears as innocent to the Cop and Vanilla to the rolecop)
Modified Rolestopper (Rolestops all abilities except kills on the target)
Recruit Traitor

These are scum choices

No rolecop

[Titus]

Oh wait misread