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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:27 am

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Gamma Gob is like...not an impossible team. I can see a ScumGamma being annoyed with partner Gob here.
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:31 am

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Also @PK's erratic comment - y'all have followed me on everything, what's there to be erratic about this game?

And I would argue I was erratic Day 3.

And before that, we hit scum, so
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:43 am

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Gamma and Pisskop, whats your read on each other?
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:47 am

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I find pk’s play bothersome (specifically the interaction around Naerys) but after the booneytoonz game my gut say it’s his town play
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:52 am

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Okay, if we're in a 3 scum world, for titus to be town, it's gamma, gob, elements.

I dont think Gamma/Gob/Elements makes sense this game because none of them are angling me for a misfade.

I thought scum would be appeasing me before, but i think it makes sense for scum to try and come after me too, especially with a Hu Tao in the mix.
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:53 am

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Hu Tao is always dead tonight, though.

If we can hit scum Watcher, if PK telling the truth, PK can get the backup watch and just watch Hu Tao, so that's something.
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:02 am

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Not accounting for 3 scum right now, partnering should still work in that scenario, but this helps a lot if we're in a 2 scum world.

Gamma/Pisskop - Not impossible, they've been soft pushing each other, but I don't think there's ever been any true pushing from either. This is a rough one for me because they've been pushing where I have almost every day, so im paranoid they are pushing when I get on town.

Gamma/Elements - elements is possibly doing the bus a buddy, vote a townie, if titus is town. i thought snivy was scummy, and i dont think the claim goes in their favor, but

Pisskop/Elements - i dont remember a whole lot with this combination which is a little concerning. If this, Elements is pushing 2 others and theyre waiting for me to join.

Gamma/Titus - Then Elements is a hot dog hot dog, got it right on replace in. I can't seem to remember any interaction between the 2 of them here.

Pisskop/Titus - One town reading me one pushing me, leaving things open?

Elements/Titus - They'd be distancing. I did think that they had odd conversation earlier this day phase.


I'm having a hard time seeing Gob scum with their play, but if he's scum with anyone here, it's a tinfoil Gamma Emerald for the scenario I said earlier.
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:06 am

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Other than Smiley going down, and Snivy taking heat, Snivy had only voted for Hu Tao, Heipzu, Naerys, and Myself.

That is all town.
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:11 am

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In post 217, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 214, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 184, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 76, heipizhu4 wrote: Thank, Alianna!
In post 71, SmileyDude1 wrote:
In post 70, Dannflor wrote: slight town leans on flavor leaf and ccs, i see where fl is coming from on ccs but i also think snivy's posting feels forced because he's the first slot to try to bring the game out of RVS?

i don't particularly like , it feels a little scared to put down a vote

"slight" pings of "potential" pocketing

and then the assurance that you're only voting there for the time being
I use that language cause I'm feeling somewhat conflicted on that slot right now. I'm a bit dissatisfied of as an answer to as it feels like a pocket-y answer to me, though it's also weirdly stubborn in a way that feels + town. I'm hoping that by placing some pressure on CCS I can get a better read of their intentions.
Agree with this post here, I'm also getting conflicted read on CCS as well. The early posts he made pings me as a town moving the game out of rvs (like what I was doing in Normal Idea Mafia), but his later posts feel like, idk, posting as often as he could do to farm post counts?
Gonna park the vote on him until some more quality posts are made though.
VOTE: ccs
@ccs What's your read on smilely, FL and Dannflor?
This makes me feel Heinz is scum with someone in the neighborhood, and they naturally grouped us together because they knew who was in it.

How many scum games does Heipz have on site?
Great catch. Heipz is the vote today for sure

Wait, why exactly?

As I currently read it Heip is just pressing cCS for better posts?
this being the one post RN had in this game that was anything game related looks good after Heipz flipped town.
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:13 am

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In post 781, gob wrote: Well if my previous slot had 3 posts, they probably didn't say anything too important.

If Flavor said they shot me, then they're lying.
In post 788, gob wrote: I think Flavor is lying here, straight up.
In post 796, gob wrote: Alright, I believe Flavor.

Something else must've happened.
i like this exchange when Pisskop was hounding Gob too.
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:17 am

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In post 1981, Flavor Leaf wrote:Gamma/Titus - Then Elements is a hot dog hot dog, got it right on replace in. I can't seem to remember any interaction between the 2 of them here.
FMPOV with my experience with Titus I think this could be a bad sign for her
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:18 am

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In post 1355, gob wrote:
In post 1351, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think gob’s give-no-fucks attitude here is towny
Pocket attempt part 2? Coming back for seconds?
i just dont feel like Gob knows what has happened this game, and i think this holds true. They're a Town of Salem player they mentioned recently, and they wear their reads on their sleeves, and I feel like they've been genuine and lhf, but nobody is going after Gob now anyways.
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:26 am

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In post 1985, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1981, Flavor Leaf wrote:Gamma/Titus - Then Elements is a hot dog hot dog, got it right on replace in. I can't seem to remember any interaction between the 2 of them here.
FMPOV with my experience with Titus I think this could be a bad sign for her
I didnt get enough Titus trying to pocket me earlier as much, and they didnt seem to manipulate VCA as much, which are the things I look for in Titus Scum, but Titus coming after me near the end here is pinging me.
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:26 am

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whats your read on Gob, Gamma?
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:30 am

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In post 1819, Naerys wrote:
In post 1792, Naerys wrote: Gamma + Dave if 3 scum
If 4 scum, the last one could be Hu/Titus
I posted this yesterday. But i think Snivy might be scum instead of dave.
Naerys was leaning Gamma/Snivy + Titus (took out Hu Tao now that they confed, and they said that while scum reading Dave)
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:36 am

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This is the main scum case for Pisskop. Celebloki dying cleared the way for less Pisskop pressure + an easier Naerys misfade.

Defense against this is Celebloki was a doctor, but I remember Pisskop pinged me when they said something like 'scum took the safe kill'.

In a world where Gamma is town, this is the best reason for PK scum. I've liked PK the rest of the game pretty much throughout, but I can see it coming from scum too, i just know it's in their range.

Like, I don't kill Celebloki here. I think a Dave kill would have been far superior from my side. Celebloki dying hurts my standing if I were scum.
In post 1231, Celebloki wrote: Sorry had to run to the pharmacy before they closed. TBH, I think I've changed my mind on naerys. Call it a scumtell all you want, when Titus "hammered" I didn't know if she hadn't realized she already had a vote on Naerys and was trying to fake twilight, but I noticed and decided to watch instead of say something. Maybe Naerys realized she hadn't been hammered either, but her E-1/fake twilight reactions seem genuine to me. That coupled with how the "massclaim" went and how others voted makes me think about this game differently. pisskop slid hard into scum territory for me. I personally think FL is still conftown because I don't think he'd hard bus Smiley if he was scum, but I think his read of the game has become misguided.

At this point I believe dave's claim and that Hu got an inno, I'm changing my mind on Naerys, still think FL is town. I still think Gamma is town.

I think there's scum in pk, gob, the worst, snivy.

I'm also not sure what to think about Titus at this point or if there was strategy in the double vote or if it was just forgetting she already had a vote on naerys.
In post 1191, Celebloki wrote: pisskop also claimed to be a PR to push a massclaim along and then never went anywhere with that. Our massclaim was really just a Celeb claim and we'll all pretend we're doing a mass claim. I can't shake the feeling now people are trying to set me up for a mis elim tomorrow. Gonna get role blocked than be the policy lim tomorrow.
In post 1232, Celebloki wrote: That said, I'm not going to join the naerys wagon.

VOTE: pisskop
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:40 am

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on top of that, Celebloki had a really good explanation for Heipz coincidental ask about all the neighbors to a neighbor, and I realized that on Day 1, but ended going there anyways, and I think that shows that Celebloki has a specific type of sense that scum probably saw as dangerous.

Yeah, this doesn't look too good for Pisskop looking back into it.
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:40 am

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the blocki kill was obvious. its not even a question of reads, preferences, or anything. its ridiculous to leave a doctor alive any longer than necessary as mafia
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:41 am

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PK page 50 is kinda rough overall.

Was it that obvious? I didn't put time into thinking about it on that level, i'm town.
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:42 am

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In post 1991, Flavor Leaf wrote: on top of that, Celebloki had a really good explanation for Heipz coincidental ask about all the neighbors to a neighbor, and I realized that on Day 1, but ended going there anyways, and I think that shows that Celebloki has a specific type of sense that scum probably saw as dangerous.

Yeah, this doesn't look too good for Pisskop looking back into it.
This attempt to tie me to a night kill via ... moon logic is why I love you bud, but its way too loosey goosey to mean anything.
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:42 am

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Suffice to say, even taking out the NKA side of things, Celebloki's posts leaning towards Pisskop is a solid case against you, even if you are town you should see that, i feel.
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:43 am

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i feel like it makes sense of you to TMI The Worst as town there, then you found some reason to switch onto them and took advantage of my tunnel.

Like, there's a case there for ScumPisskop, you gotta see that
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:44 am

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It holds no real water. I pushed naerys because I scumread her, and I townread cele because I townread them
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:45 am

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but celeb did not town read you.

if i were scum here, I had Celebloki in my pocket so hard they were calling me conf town. I think that's worth outguessing a doctor if I were scum here, no?
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:46 am

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hmmm

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