Mini Normal 2317 - Postgame

[Chell]

Just a word of advice Chell, I think you will agree (since everyone knows you and thus you must be experienced) that Khaos is definitely lhf and I believe there is a better lim today, with plenty of time left? At least would you agree that wagoning up to a claim would be ill advised atm?

point to why you believe khaos is town please

[Chell]

i will read up tonight yo

[Chell]

hum

[Chell]

UNVOTE:

i have one extremely confident scum read

[Chell]

keylaga is not a new player btw.

[Chell]

because i don't want them to know yet teehee

[Chell]

there is 1 pretty good reason to think organized khaos is town

can anyone find it

[Chell]

elements, KT, khaos are town a vast majority of the time

random nurse and gamma i want to say are town but i need to revisit more

[Chell]

VOTE: celebloki

it's him gettim everyone

[Chell]

i think his reaction to the presence of an IC is town indicative

i cannot really explain this further

[Chell]

i do think random nurse is a pretty easy read as well and should resolve sooner or later

entrance probably just makes the slot town though

[Chell]

i think there are approximately 0 worlds kitty tacky's claim comes from scum

[Chell]

scratch that

there are 0 worlds where kitty tacky's claim is claimed in the way that it was by scum

[Chell]

keylaga id like to ask you again why you believe khaos is not the best wagon for today and yet you simultaneously believe he is scummy

[Chell]

gamma do you have a take on outworlder

[Chell]

who makes sense as khaos' teammates

[Chell]

looks very much like inexperienced scum trying hide because they are new

what changed between now and less than 24 hours ago in 412

[Chell]

omg are you partnered with celebloki

[Chell]

what i am getting at with regards to organized khaos

is i don't think scum!khaos keeps coming into the thread 20 or so pages in with the confused / please help me stuff when multiple people have already commented how that behavior is scummy

the simple explanation is that khaos is genuinely lost town who does not have a private chat with scum buddies to help him keep up with the game

i fully believe khaos is genuinely struggling to keep up, i do not believe that if khaos was scum his partners would not be trying to get him into the game unless his teammates are exactly like random nurse and outerworlder and they are as much of a non presence in the scum PT as they are in the game thread. but i do not think that world is very likely

[Chell]

there is also the topic of 147 which betrays there is actually some thought going on about the game outside the thread

if khaos was scum putting on an act he probably wouldn't suddenly fake a thought for the purposes of voting bingle

and if he *were* to fake a thought, he'd probably actually put the thought in the post in order to get town cred for it instead of just saying he's been thinking

[Chell]

gamma do you have a take on outworlder

I feel good about him rn

say more

[Chell]

khaos if you would like to expand on the original reasons you voted bingle that would be nice

[Chell]

care to vote eiralox with me ?

[Chell]

is there a purpose in not wanting to talk with me gamma

[Chell]

hi outWorldER

vote eiralox

[Chell]

Who do you trust least and most in chell, bingle, outwordler, key laga?

what are you getting out of this

[Chell]

i think that's a scum reaction to the wagon tbh

appeal to the IC + shading the wagon pretty generally while not engaging with any specific vote as likely to be scum

[Chell]

you are playing around the IC like hyper aware scum

386 in particular almost never comes from town

the way you are approaching forming reads does not come from a townie trying to figure out the game, posts like 626 are appeals to the crowd and performances in that almost all of your sorting happens in your posts and you spell out a lot of thoughts that town would leave unspelled out because they already went through them

[Chell]

has anyone had the thought that bingle and keylama...laga can be aligned?

i don't know if someone has asked it or how serious i'm aboot it but
felt it early
dismissed it
now maybe just curious

idk i doubt we got masons maybe i think early i figured laga can be bussing bingle, nothing solid
it's just i sort of don't understand laga's lack of reaction to bingle voting moi
and if elements town
i can imagine her being sized up as a mislim here idk

then again all my reads are fairy castles in the fog rn so whatever just wanna know i guess
laga's first vote on be felt opportunic af btw and the quick retraction felt sort of yucky. still don't have solid reads here kitty did feel town but eh..... a few things bothering me so far.

town does not make this post

this is the post scum makes because they think it looks townie

[Chell]

Outworlder might feel the iffiest

outworlder is the most likely partner here btw

[Chell]

Eira shading the wagon generally.... three people with no reasons voting eira... what other shade is there this early in the game? Snould i shade just you? Who?

scum generally hate getting piled on for perceived "no reasons" because they think it is unfair or they are being caught for the "wrong" reasons

townies can do this too but they usually at least try to put themselves in other peoples shoes and have some theory about who is the most likely scum on them

eiralox looks a lot more like the first

[Chell]

Please tell me youre town cos your scum team is in trouble if this is an actual push

also this is not a town perspective

it's not an actual read it's just "threatening" me with a scum read if i don't drop the push

[Chell]

hi outWorldER

vote eiralox

Mmm couple things. Why’d you ask me about OWER in a manner that felt like you didn’t agree he was town when this looks like you do think he’s town? Also, what are you seeing that’s scummy from Eira?

i think OWER is partnered with eiralox

i was exploring a world in which you are the 3rd on that team but eh

[Chell]

:thonk:

[Chell]

VOTE: eiralox

[Chell]

gamma when you are around i would like to hear you explain your stances on naerys, outworlder, and eiralox in more detail

[Chell]

i am afraid of town binning keylaga

[Chell]

im just gonna do it no one can stop me

[Chell]

keylaga is not new however and i would want some serious reconsideration in an elo situation

[Chell]

OutWorld -- Very town focused, will need to re-focus to regain status, very town read.

do you have more detail on this read, keylaga

[Chell]

catching up in a bit

[Chell]

oops i fell into some neurotoxin

[Chell]

sleepy dragon slot is probably just town and i hope the slot gets night killed before i have to actually put energy into evaluating it

[Chell]

still pretty happy with the eiralox wagon

bingle can be scum ig but i'd rather find his most likely team mates first if that is the case because properly reading him sounds like a chore

[Chell]

VOTE: gamma emerald

[Chell]

idk ive tried to give gamma lots of time to do the town things i'd expect her to do and she just hasn't

i think she is the worst vote on the eiralox wagon (yes worse even than organized khaos) and gamma's posting all day just feels very inoffensive. i just expect her to care about something more as town and she feels like she's going through the motions with the eiralox scum read

i also stumbled upon 1202 and i think it's a scum post

[Chell]

idk rereading the thread im feeling a lot less hot about killing eiralox

[Chell]

I've already explained the eira push it's not my fault you dont want to read my iso

[Chell]

Like if you explain how Gamma's vote is worse than OK's vote I would like that.

gamma's whole vote is stemming from a pre-flip association with elements that she brings up over and over again

that's not how town actually forms reads and i think gamma tried to take a "unique" reason to vote eiralox rather than just do what town would do and sheep me/naerys

[Chell]

organized khaos on the other hand is utterly unconcerned with optics and seems like a new player who can't keep up with the pace of the game

what's a town new player to do? probably still gonna put their vote down on a leading wagon that isn't then

i think a scum new player is gonna try a lot harder to justify their vote *if they even put one down* in order to look good

[Chell]

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i don't even really believe in this push anymore but why are you acting this dense, i spent several posts elaborating on eiralox

[Chell]

im skeptical that you have genuinely spent this long in the game just waiting around for me to explain why there is a wagon on eiralox

[Chell]

who is scum naerys

[Chell]

why elements

[Chell]

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i don't even really believe in this push anymore but why are you acting this dense, i spent several posts elaborating on eiralox

I realize you don't believe in it

How am I acting dense

I was just complaining about the fact that I wanted you to give more about it but now you are voting elsewhere

I'm not even interested in pushing Eira.

what more did you want me to give? if i had anything more to say about it i would've said it

[Chell]

like my issue is it feels like this complaining and wanting me to "give more" or whatever feels like busy work

when you could have just engaged with the stuff already in my iso

like i don't understand what you are trying to achieve

[Chell]

ok

[Chell]

scum Gamma just has takes for the sake of having takes

that is pretty much how im reading gamma here rnow

im not saying this is an extreme confidence read but i feel better about it than eiralox

[Chell]

isn't that list reversed

i assumed it was since celebloki is at the bottom

[Chell]

id rather not

[Chell]

id rather not

okay
whats your read on bingle

not the d1 lim

[Chell]

ccs take a real stance and vote a real wagon like a real camel

[Chell]

p sure half the votes on me are scum rn

you feel limp

[Chell]

snip

this does not help quell my suspicions that you two are partnered lol

[Chell]

i don't like the titus wagon i think keylaga was bleeding town

[Chell]

like titus is an easy target for a last minute lim but keylaga was not scum lol

[Chell]

i am never letting titus get limmed and i don't think anyone should ever be able to drive a miselim on that slot with keylaga's iso

[Chell]

Khaos, or CCS, or even Bingle,

i can kill ccs but i'd prefer to just be sheeped on gamma

[Chell]

i am never letting titus get limmed and i don't think anyone should ever be able to drive a miselim on that slot with keylaga's iso

And yet you call Titus an easy target

Idk Chell, look at this game from my perspective. I see a bunch of towny people, and for the entirety of Day 1 everyone is bent on wagoning only people from my "don't vote Day 1" pool. Who do you think I should be leading a wagon on?

Pedit: do u consider yourself an expert on Gamma / are you confident enough in your read to do a BOP shot, theoretically speaking?

bc honestly I do feel I have quite a bit of meta on her and to me this reads town.

maybe i should accept that we probably won't see eye to eye very often in this game because my play style revolves around catching and killing scum so to some extent we seem diametrically opposed

i accept that you have meta with gamma and while i have a high read accuracy i accept that certain players have a much higher read accuracy on specific other players they are familiar with. however, in this case, i have vast amount of data on gamma and a pretty decent read accuracy, to the extent that i trust my read more than i trust yours. i wont claim it's strictly better or get into some toxic contest with u about it but for those reasons and the way you are describing your read on gamma it doesn't really do anything to sway me

by BOP do u mean would i accept being limmed the next day if im wrong on gamma? i mean no. i could tell u yes but obviously if i was wrong i would not allow myself to by limmed so this doesn't feel like a path we need to go down.

but if ur town i understand wanting to build a town block and being frustrated when ppl dont want to work together. ill try to step outside of my own play here and extend an olive branch even if i dont quite know how.

i guess ill start with why don't u town read keylaga? im kind of incredulous that anyone thinks that slot is scum

[Chell]

i guess i could also use more explanation on bingle because im not hard town reading that slot but i would need a compelling reason to want to kill him d1

[Chell]

VOTE: ccs

me thinks id rather do this than khaos

[Chell]

gamma's recent attitude is more town indicative than anything else in her iso

[Chell]

ok

[Chell]

in all honesty i procrastinated on this game so i don't really have reads on you/naerys/titus/kitty but why?

are you asking why i'd rather kill you over khaos?

[Chell]

in all honesty i procrastinated on this game so i don't really have reads on you/naerys/titus/kitty but why?

are you asking why i'd rather kill you over khaos?

why you'd kill me specifically

you're someone who might actually go through that has a greater chance of flipping red than khaos

[Chell]

also re: chell i always have a good chance of going through (id argue less as scum) but I'm not sure about the flipping red thing. you sure?

i mean no i think you have a pretty rand chance to flip red

maybe it's a false dichotomy that it's between you and khaos but khaos i think flips green most of the time

[Chell]

blah maybe i should properly look at bingle

[Chell]

lol i completely forgot drew was in this game

[Chell]

i think we might actually make it to post 100

[Chell]

snivy jumping on drew instead of like elements or eiralox or someone more likely to go through makes me want to town read him

[Chell]

VOTE: bingle

[Chell]

just vig khaos please

[Chell]

VOTE: organized khaos

[Chell]

Why am I the scummiest Khaos?

[Chell]

i don’t think a kitty nk points towards dragons scum

Dragon doesn’t strike me as a player who would fear kill Kitty

I DO think it makes it more likely that Kitty was correctly town reading Khaos, because a town!Khaos is a very easy lim today without Kitty around

I’ll have to sit on that for a bit though

[Chell]

The thing that gives me pause with Gamma is that they have very different responses to pressure as scum vs town

The extreme OMGUS and angry reaction to my push yesterday felt much more in line with town!gamma than scum!gamma

[Chell]

VOTE: drew

[Chell]

Gamma is it correct to say that your read on me is kinda dependent on how I'm reading you

[Chell]

Am I the only one thinking that slot is obvscum right now?

can you walk me through why?

[Chell]

did you respond to 2464 dragon?

[Chell]

Sorry for wallpost by the way.

Gamma Emerald has requested replacement.

Second this

My gut says do Khaos.

I'm fine with this, but what did you think about Chell's take on the NK? And what do you think about Bingle as a lim?

Not a fan of Chell. Also, didn't Chell claim there was no protective role?

Bingle is a good VCA flip like Khaos. I just prefer Khaos due to the lack of content.

lol

Why are you not voting me if you think i claimed this

[Chell]

OH WAIT that other game ended

Guysssss Gamma has a completed scum game now!!! We can use it for meta. Chell, do you get the same vibes from this game as from the other game? Because for me they feel subtly different but I'm not sure if I'm making up that difference or if it really exists.

I think it’s pretty much the same except for her reaction to pressure which is wildly different

[Chell]

catching up!

[Chell]

@dragon

I'll try to pop in as much as I can tonight but I'll be out running errands. if it's real time interaction you want I'll commit to spending most of my free time tomorrow on this game during the day

[Chell]

it feels icky but i kind of just want to kill organized khaos today

i was playing under the assumption that khaos if town would eventually find something to care about and latch onto but im not really seeing that

and i don't want to live in a world where i have to sort that slot in a limlo

[Chell]

gob what do you know of my scum meta ?

[Chell]

i also find it pretty suspicious that despite me voting khaos in the twilight hours of D1 the wagon managed to find another target, despite khaos probably being about the easiest target ever

and even now people aren't really including him in scum teams?

[Chell]

like khaos is the type of slot that is like a MAGNET for scum because it's so easy to push

[Chell]

VOTE: organized khaos

[Chell]

kinda think gob is scum too and has good equity with organized khaos


3069 reminds me almost exactly of the analysis posts gob did upon replacing in to Mini Normal 2313

and based on how I'm pretty sure town!Gob treats VCA - he'd be considering one of the counter wagons to the d1 town wagon (bingle or khaos) as scum, but they are missing from his solve

[Chell]

gob's read on both me and naerys is wholly made up as far as i can tell

[Chell]

re: gamma

I feel I am usually able to town read gamma more via tone

while gamma's reaction to pressure matched up from what I'd expect from her town meta, and in fact was the opposite of her scum reaction in this recently finished game: viewtopic.php?t=91847

i do know that gamma also cares about her scum game and has gone a long time without rolling scum before this

so her reaction being better in this game seems more likely to be a consequence of being in this game from the start and being in a much better position than her replace into a bad scum situation in that game

[Chell]

I don't really know who the third would be and I'm not going to go too far speculating about solves until I have gotten a red flip

I'm troublingly short on town reads but I do think Sleepy Dragon and Titus are town

if my reads are remotely close to right Drew should probably lean town as well

[Chell]

kinda think gob is scum too and has good equity with organized khaos

3069 reminds me almost exactly of the analysis posts gob did upon replacing in to Mini Normal 2313

and based on how I'm pretty sure town!Gob treats VCA - he'd be considering one of the counter wagons to the d1 town wagon (bingle or khaos) as scum, but they are missing from his solve

Thats a good point actually. If it is one of them its khaos btw. I am going with what i said since that is almost assured (my poe of 3)

I feel like Titus and Sleepy are using bad on my wagon. Mainly sleepy using the logic and titus following. But you can ignore those two if you want.

let's vote khaos then

[Chell]

That feels like dumb telling

[Chell]

Can you explain that particular association

[Chell]

The one where I’m not scum if bingle and gob aren’t scum

[Chell]

VOTE: gob

[Chell]

none of gob's last 4 posts are real town thoughts

[Chell]

people need to stop falling into the fallacy that a quick wagon is scum motivated

literally that exact same thing happened in this game: viewtopic.php?t=91655

and people got scared off because there was a quick wagon and it must have wolves on it but it was literally on scum

[Chell]

viewtopic.php?p=13937195#p13937195

here is where Jackson, who was town

overrode a quick wagon on scum that I was a part of

[Chell]

none of gob's last 4 posts are real town thoughts

Says who? lol

me

[Chell]

none of gob's last 4 posts are real town thoughts

Hmm true probably

I am not opposed to a gob lim, I just want other players to check in first.

okay

i just wasn't sure if you were saying "way too quick" like there was something nefarious going on

[Chell]

Because Naerys and Chell have really not interacted with me much at all, and here they are voting me because of you.

i am not really going to interact with you here regardless of alignment

but ive stated why i think you're scum

[Chell]

gob what do you know of my scum meta ?

[Chell]

you literally made up a read on me

[Chell]

Chell I liked before, but I haven't seen them post much at all.

and they were necessarily out of their scum meta.

So I would be fine voting Chell.

[Chell]

like you aren't putting real thought into your posts, you're just making up reads that sound good

[Chell]

also gob did this EXACT SAME THING as scum

I am willing to drop my SR on you though since you at least seem to be giving me a chance to speak.

also Gob did this EXACT SAME THING as scum in the game I just mentioned where they basically used their read as a bargaining chip to get a widely town read player to stop pushing them (in this case it was me)

Gob do you think Dann is misguided town or scum pushing you?

If they keep pushing the same way then they're scum.

Right now I lean misguided town though. They basically just do not want to understand a different way of solving.

like the read is not dependent on anything a townie actually uses to make reads, it is dependent on whether or not someone is pushing him

[Chell]

what the fuck

[Chell]

please do not join games if your mental is that weak

[Chell]

i hope to god you are just scum trolling

[Chell]

ah

[Chell]

I'm sure gob knew that

[Chell]

in the game i just modded he was pretty meticulous about checking the VC when putting down votes

[Chell]

i mean it's pretty obvious you wanted people to think you just self hammered but im sure you checked already

[Chell]

seems svs

[Chell]

im happy with either today tbh

[Chell]

kinda think khaos would have just hammered in a gob!town, khaos!scum world

[Chell]

VOTE: khaos

[Chell]

Hi guys! Reads:
1. Chell - Very sus. I think they are bussing, tried to control discussion but stopped and started being inactive.
2. Doctor Drew - Seems good to me but Idk that's just vibes.
3. KeyLaga - I don't think Mafia would try so hard lol
4. Random Nurse - Has been pretty inactive but I like his posts other then the random vote on Key at the beggining.
5. KittyTacky - I think he is good.

6. Gamma Emerald - Nuetral. There are some things I like, some things I don't like.

7. Eiralox - Key made some good points about Eira being mafia but I'm less certain about Eira then Chell.
8. Celebloki - Celeb is just garunteed to be town lol
9. Naerys - I'm going to be honest, I don't vibe with her posts.
10. Elements - A little sus. I'll keep my eye on them.
11. OutWorldER - For some reason I get town vibes from him.
12. Bingle - Sus.
Okay bye now.

so this is Khaos' biggest piece of actual content in the whole game. I think it's interesting to note that despite Khaos being pretty reserved in sharing any reads at all, they actually give a firm stance on everyone in the player list *except* for Gamma Emerald here. I think this is a pretty frequent thing that mafia (especially newbie mafia) do with their parterns, that is just flat out null read them

also from Gamma's side he doesn't interact with Khaos pretty much all game except for a couple soft ball questions that go nowhere

and then votes khaos a couple times in the deadline scramble when it looks like things might swing towards him

i would like second opinions but i think gob/khaos are just partners here

[Chell]

I-I'm not sure if Gob is scum or not.

Can you explain why?

also might be conf bias but i feel like this specific interaction, with the emoji and everything, feels overworked on both sides and like its scum trying to interact and distance

[Chell]

WHAT WHY ARE YOU GUYS VOTING ME, THAT'S JUST HOW I TYPE

you should vote gob if you're town

[Chell]

why don't you trust me

[Chell]

Why is Chell feel like mafia trying to control discussion to me? Especially with the baiting a newbie (me) to vote for a random person when the newbie in question (also me) has stated that they have been having trouble making up their mind on who to vote and is clearly confused. Maybe it's just me but I think Chell is the most sus person here.
VOTE: Chell
Change my mind.

like idk it kinda feels like your read on me has not evolved in 100 pages and i think somewhere along the line you might have reconsidered

[Chell]

look, i am town and i personally think it is obvious if you look at how ive conducted myself so far in this game

if you are actually town then i don't really know what to do with you here

sorry if im wrong

[Chell]

snivy why did you randomly start voting naerys

[Chell]

@bingle when should we consider no eliminating to try and get back to odds

[Chell]

VOTE: gob

[Chell]

I think bingle is right and i think gob should go first

[Chell]

bingle you feel especially navel gazey this game

im not sure that’s even a scum tell for you but i don’t have a solid grasp on what you feel passionate about in this game, if anything

so if you do have some specific things you’re feeling confident on that would be helpful

[Chell]

after thinking about it i think 3138 only ever comes from town

It’s too presumptuous to be scum

[Chell]

[gob, bingle, CCS, khaos, drew]

people im considering as scum right now

of these i feel worst about gob and khaos

CCS i don’t fucking know how to read but i do think the defense of khaos is pretty unlikely to be scum/scum

I probably feel best about drew in that pool oddly enough

He’s like not doing anything but i kinda feel like he’d feel more pressure to be doing more as scum right now

Maybe that’s a bad read idk

[Chell]

I think from gob’s point of view I would be more suspicious of the person walking up and being like “hm idk if this person is scum or not ” while im being actively wagoned

[Chell]

I’m not sheeping bingle lol

I’m not sure whether bingle even outright scum reads gob

[Chell]

But i do think bingle was correct in pointing out my logic if correct means gob should die first

[Chell]

bingle you feel especially navel gazey this game

im not sure that’s even a scum tell for you but i don’t have a solid grasp on what you feel passionate about in this game, if anything

so if you do have some specific things you’re feeling confident on that would be helpful

Your reads on Bingle and myself seem so non-committal and vague.

Yet you make a point to single us out.

I don't know what your angle is here, especially as you sheep Bingle and vote Gob.

I’m just kind of thinking out loud

I scum lean Bingle and town lean you if that helps?

I mean I’m very aware my reads are non commital

With you I’m just thinking out loud to see if anyone can back me up on my line of reasoning

With Bingle I’m hoping that Bingle if town can show that he’s town

[Chell]

ok

[Chell]

well, you’re wrong drew

[Chell]

im not town reading snivy either? or am i misunderstanding something

I just think he’s probably not s/s with khaos

[Chell]

what is your opinion of gob, drew

[Chell]

what makes snivy the most attractive option

[Chell]

I am not following why that makes snivy the most likely to be scum out of the three of us

[Chell]

celebloki you are probably alive because scum thought you would be protected

[Chell]

celebloki you are probably alive because scum thought you would be protected

Alternatively, scum was informed that the protective was informed and KT was dead as soon as he claimed. It’s the tinfoil that’s been eating me about chell, because FL’s informed post did actually look like it had motivation and I can’t think of another one.

I’m not actually informed

Idk if that increases or decreases your paranoia

There is something about my role that allows me to infer something about the setup but i don’t actually have the informed modifier

Wanted to leave it vague before but it’s probably fine to claim that much

[Chell]

VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

[Chell]

im not sheeping gob im sheeping bingle

[Chell]

I also think gob can be voting you and you can both still be scum

[Chell]

Probably happy with any of snivy, gob, khaos

[Chell]

I’ll probably just end up sheeping whatever Dragon does

[Chell]

VOTE: khaos

[Chell]

deepwolf deepwolf deepwolf

[Chell]

Chell, I know this might be unfair since you ARE playing on an alt, but I am really tempted to say you might be scum due to burden of proficiency. How come you're saying you want to sheep me after your talk about how your playstyle is focused on finding and killing scum?

Also Naerys + Chell, can you E-1 Snivy with me so we get his claim? This would be immensely useful, thank you.

VOTE: Snivy

Im saying ill sheep you cause you’re my most confident town read and im lazy

And if i try to push for what i really want hear i think it’s just gonna make the game miserable

[Chell]

do you want to kill snivy?

I don’t see the point of getting a claim unless you are planning to kill that perdon

[Chell]

I want gob to die

I feel he’s the single most likely scum flip in the game

[Chell]

hi taly

[Chell]

Sorry Taly but we should still lim your slot. You were c-wagon who died for mislim on elements.

gob where has this reasoning been all day

like you did not care about khaos being a counter wagon until i pointed it out and you still haven't even been pushing it until taly replaced in

[Chell]

VOTE: gob

I don't super want to kill khaos anymore given I think Taly has the capacity to obv town

[Chell]

i have less overall confidence on the bingle slot but im not opposed to it

[Chell]

VOTE: camelcasedsnivy

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chell

give me a concise explanation of your read on

gob

i have counterthoughts against them being scum

i think you can pretty easily find this in my ISO

i don't think his thoughts are real and i think his analysis is much shallower than it is in his town game

[Chell]

idk why you care about gob 6 hours before deadline he's not getting limmed

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dragon is there a reason you feel uncharitable towards like everyone in the game this game

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like i feel like you're assuming the worst intentions of every slot which if you're town is making it hard to want to work with you

[Chell]

also you keep being like "someone needs to obvtown!" which is very annoying because like, this is me trying to play my best as town with time constraints

like it's not my fault i have a decent scum range

I cannot realistically break that range completely more than like once a year

[Chell]

taly what the fuck are you doing voting naerys

that is such a vanity vote

[Chell]

I'm sorry I know I'm not giving this game the attention I should but I'm also giving it my all when I'm here and I feel pretty consistently not listened to so if we're not getting a gob flip im just gonna vote the slot i think is the least town that is also viable to get elimmed

[Chell]

I'll compromise on Bingle at deadline

not voting Dragon probably ever

I'll be around until deadline

[Chell]

I think I'm just annoyed at this game and taking it out on you sorry

[Chell]

like it feels hard to work with anyone here

idk im considering whether you vs. bingle can be a TvT but if it is the game feels kinda hopeless

[Chell]

...Wtf
Okay lets face it, we dont deserve to win

I just want to town read this post for the mind meld im gonna be honest

[Chell]

fuck it

VOTE: bingle

[Chell]

I kind of want to town read Snivy's resistance to claiming early

[Chell]

gob i just feel very certain *is* scum and it is frustrating to me that the window has basically closed to kill him today

[Chell]

why the fuck is everyone using the word lynchpin all of a sudden

[Chell]

chell

give me a concise explanation of your read on

gob

i have counterthoughts against them being scum

i think you can pretty easily find this in my ISO

i don't think his thoughts are real and i think his analysis is much shallower than it is in his town game

if you thought that i was scum, then do you think gob is hard tunnelling me?

pedit blame doctor drew

he hasn't really been tunneling you? he shifted to you more recently but has been tunneling dragon most of the day

idk i see gob pushing dragon super hard most of the day and then shift to you and not push you as hard so i don't think it's impossible to be a bus

[Chell]

taly i feel not wanting to make any waves this close to deadline and voting naerys also feels scum indicative so i'd vote there too if that's more palatable than gob to people for whatever reason

[Chell]

Bingle (4): Sleepy Dragon, camelCasedSnivy, Naerys, Chell
camelCasedSnivy (2): gob, Celebloki
Sleepy Dragon (2): Bingle, Doctor Drew
Taly (1): Titus
Naerys (1): Taly

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i personally wanted to give taly space to obv town because i think he's good at doing that quickly

but i have been unimpressed thus far and would still switch back to him if the votes are there

[Chell]

I think sleepy dragon wants either CCS or Bingle tho iirc

[Chell]

taly i feel like now is the time to be looking at who you want to kill today and naerys is not an option

[Chell]

vote CCS then

[Chell]

actually i think the mailman target should claim before naerys claims her target

[Chell]

we should follow bingle's massclaim order

[Chell]

preemptively i want to say naerys is probably scum

probably doctor drew but something about the bingle flip is making me question that choice

ic death also makes this game feel more like a pain in the ass

VOTE: Sleepy

can you.. explain further

[Chell]

are you claiming something on dragon because I'd like you to be explicit about that if that's the case

[Chell]

PR/Not PR

SD
cCS
Taly
Gob
Drew
Titus

then

Actual Role

SD
Chell
cCS
Taly
Gob
Drew
Titus

[Chell]

PR

also guessing taly

[Chell]

also

while i lean towards saying SD is still town

We don’t auto vote the guilty target

today being melo means it’s the perfect time for scum to fake claim a guilty and if scum!SD thought he was going down anyway than the hail mary makes sense

I still think play wise SD is town but I really don’t want to lose this game so i just dont want to rush this

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also it feels like too many PRs, i feel like somebody is lying

i do think your role makes sense with a higher number of PRs