Mini 2320: Smuggler's Port II [Endgame]

[SirCakez]

I think it's a stupid idea to lim Kyouko just because of some kinda mech strat, I think pretty much everyone here would agree that ssbm is pretty town. I'd rather elim someone who is scummy.

[SirCakez]

yeah the claim screws with the mech PoE a little bit but I don't think that locks us to a Kyouko lim

UNVOTE:

[SirCakez]

I'll ship Wheat

[SirCakez]

Or I can Copper if we follow Kyoukos plan
Idk whatever is optimal

[Claptastik]

Linen: HPE, atsi, Clap
Copper: Gamma, Cakes, Celebloki
Wheat: Roden, Dunn, Hu Tao

Cakes you ship Copper.

I'm shipping Linen.

[Claptastik]

I think it's a stupid idea to lim Kyouko just because of some kinda mech strat, I think pretty much everyone here would agree that ssbm is pretty town. I'd rather elim someone who is scummy.

atsi and celebloki are pushing for Kyouko. Do you think they're being stupid, or scummy?

[Gamma Emerald]

There's a pretty noticeable difference in our ISOs in that this one isn't posting things that are meaningless or worse.

You have a vague anti-town charge that you don't follow up on, then a few one-liners on setup spec. IMO it's not a great read.

SirCakez going "uhhh i dont understand *votes kyouko*" is glaringly obviously anti-town when she's literally in the process of basically solving the game for us. If that's "vague" to you... jeez.

I feel like my vote on kyouko was pretty obviously a joke and I don't like how you're twisting it into me voting her because she was solving mech

I feel like due to most of the discussion being mech related, stretches aren’t exactly scummy here since there isn’t much play to grasp in terms of standard play

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Feels surreal to be TRed for mech talk

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Oops that was for the scum PT lim me now haha

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.2

Gamma Emerald [1] - Celebloki
ssbm_Kyouko [1] - ssbm_Kyouko
SirCakez [1] - Gamma Emerald
atsi [2] - HighPrincessErinys, Roden

Not Voting [5]

- Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Claptastik, atsi, SirCakez

With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-12-07 16:00:00)

[Claptastik]

There's a pretty noticeable difference in our ISOs in that this one isn't posting things that are meaningless or worse.

You have a vague anti-town charge that you don't follow up on, then a few one-liners on setup spec. IMO it's not a great read.

SirCakez going "uhhh i dont understand *votes kyouko*" is glaringly obviously anti-town when she's literally in the process of basically solving the game for us. If that's "vague" to you... jeez.

I feel like my vote on kyouko was pretty obviously a joke and I don't like how you're twisting it into me voting her because she was solving mech

I feel like due to most of the discussion being mech related, stretches aren’t exactly scummy here since there isn’t much play to grasp in terms of standard play

If HPE came back and said

Yeah it's a stretch, but there isn't much to go on yet,

then I'd agree. But she didn't. She doubled down and said it's "glaringly obviously anti-town."

[Claptastik]

In my heart I want to vote for scum rather than go straight to the mechanical approach. But, logically, the numbers don't add up. 10 players. 6 to lim. Scum can't benefit from busing. So, to hit scum, we need 6 of 8 town to agree. That's not going to happen. Whoever we lim today, they're going to be town, so it makes sense to go with the plan.

Since we're using the mechanical approach, additional time talking today is more beneficial to scum than town.

VOTE: Kyouko

Here's the shipping plan. Variation from this is a scum claim. I'm shipping Linen.

Linen: HPE, atsi, Clap
Copper: Gamma, Cakes, Celebloki
Wheat: Roden, Dunn, Hu Tao

[SirCakez]

In my heart I want to vote for scum rather than go straight to the mechanical approach. But, logically, the numbers don't add up. 10 players. 6 to lim. Scum can't benefit from busing. So, to hit scum, we need 6 of 8 town to agree. That's not going to happen. Whoever we lim today, they're going to be town, so it makes sense to go with the plan.

Since we're using the mechanical approach, additional time talking today is more beneficial to scum than town.

VOTE: Kyouko

Here's the shipping plan. Variation from this is a scum claim. I'm shipping Linen.

Linen: HPE, atsi, Clap
Copper: Gamma, Cakes, Celebloki
Wheat: Roden, Dunn, Hu Tao

This is honestly one of the best posts in the game I think

[SirCakez]

VOTE: kyouko
I still kinda don't like it but that post makes it make sense to me

[Celebloki]

Only Hu hasn't confirmed what they are shipping, Cakez also said 2 things, but I assume he knows he should do Copper.

[Claptastik]

Only Hu hasn't confirmed what they are shipping, Cakez also said 2 things, but I assume he knows he should do Copper.

Still 3 votes to go, but yeah, we should have everyone confirm that they're on board before we hammer.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Someone in the PT will remind Hu to shop copper dw

[Hu Tao]

In my heart I want to vote for scum rather than go straight to the mechanical approach. But, logically, the numbers don't add up. 10 players. 6 to lim. Scum can't benefit from busing. So, to hit scum, we need 6 of 8 town to agree. That's not going to happen. Whoever we lim today, they're going to be town, so it makes sense to go with the plan.

Since we're using the mechanical approach, additional time talking today is more beneficial to scum than town.

VOTE: Kyouko

Here's the shipping plan. Variation from this is a scum claim. I'm shipping Linen.

Linen: HPE, atsi, Clap
Copper: Gamma, Cakes, Celebloki
Wheat: Roden, Dunn, Hu Tao

Why do you follow their plan if you think their scum?

[Hu Tao]

So I don't understand why we are voting out kyouko? Why not just scumhunt and vote someone we actually think is scum?

[Hu Tao]

Someone in the PT will remind Hu to shop copper dw

I can just read at night no need to ask my pt

[Gamma Emerald]

Pls confirm which item you are shipping

[HighPrincessErinys]

There's a pretty noticeable difference in our ISOs in that this one isn't posting things that are meaningless or worse.

You have a vague anti-town charge that you don't follow up on, then a few one-liners on setup spec. IMO it's not a great read.

SirCakez going "uhhh i dont understand *votes kyouko*" is glaringly obviously anti-town when she's literally in the process of basically solving the game for us. If that's "vague" to you... jeez.

I feel like my vote on kyouko was pretty obviously a joke and I don't like how you're twisting it into me voting her because she was solving mech

I feel like due to most of the discussion being mech related, stretches aren’t exactly scummy here since there isn’t much play to grasp in terms of standard play

If HPE came back and said

Yeah it's a stretch, but there isn't much to go on yet,

then I'd agree. But she didn't. She doubled down and said it's "glaringly obviously anti-town."

To both you and Cakez: This one really doesn't care about the intent of "oh it was a joke" "oh it was rvs", if someone is contributing that heavily in a very mechanically tangible way that early, you do NOT RVS them. Not going to jump the shark and call Cakez outright scum for it but it is a vote that leaves a foul taste in my mouth regardless.

[Claptastik]

Hu Tao, please confirm that you're shipping wheat tonight. Anything else is a scum claim.

[SirCakez]

I'm shipping copper

[SirCakez]

There's a pretty noticeable difference in our ISOs in that this one isn't posting things that are meaningless or worse.

You have a vague anti-town charge that you don't follow up on, then a few one-liners on setup spec. IMO it's not a great read.

SirCakez going "uhhh i dont understand *votes kyouko*" is glaringly obviously anti-town when she's literally in the process of basically solving the game for us. If that's "vague" to you... jeez.

I feel like my vote on kyouko was pretty obviously a joke and I don't like how you're twisting it into me voting her because she was solving mech

I feel like due to most of the discussion being mech related, stretches aren’t exactly scummy here since there isn’t much play to grasp in terms of standard play

If HPE came back and said

Yeah it's a stretch, but there isn't much to go on yet,

then I'd agree. But she didn't. She doubled down and said it's "glaringly obviously anti-town."

To both you and Cakez: This one really doesn't care about the intent of "oh it was a joke" "oh it was rvs", if someone is contributing that heavily in a very mechanically tangible way that early, you do NOT RVS them. Not going to jump the shark and call Cakez outright scum for it but it is a vote that leaves a foul taste in my mouth regardless.

Wtf kinda argument is this?