Large Normal 246: Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

That is a 210 pages game, mind taking us to the exact page that makes this relevant? Surely you dont expect us to read a full game to confirm your claim right?

Read the flips in the OP

[Gamma Emerald]

I have thoughts but I rarely take time to order my thoughts on everyone
I will say Guillo seems pretty towny rn

What are your thoughts on everyone?

I just said I don’t really like to do things like this, because it’s draining sometimes and I don’t feel like catering to people why say I “have no stances” when I do have them, they just are scattered in my posts. I’m not going to over-exert myself because others can’t bother to do sone legwork of their own.

[Gamma Emerald]

No, they do it too, but there are also things scum dont do in RvS. Read my walls.

This doesn’t really click with your sig

Noted
My Sig is old and outdated.

[Gamma Emerald]

Shit, my reply got embedded in the quote

[Gamma Emerald]

No, they do it too, but there are also things scum dont do in RvS. Read my walls.

This doesn’t really click with your sig

My Sig is old and outdated.

Noted

Fixed

[Guillotina]

I think the questions from Guillotina are like...ok, but nothing scum couldn't come up with in an attempt to seem townie, and I think the interpretation in 374 is really odd and it just feels like unnecessary shade towards Timmer

It is shade but it was not unnecessary, who cares about a VT claim in RvS?

You gotta think about the all the possible motivations for a VT claim at the time they did.

1) It is a townie who is in survival mode, why would be a townie in survival mode?
Answer: They shouldn't
Unless: They are...what?

2) It is scum who does not want investigations coming their way. Is this a realistic thought?
Answer: If they are a newbie scum maybe. If they are not, I think they'd be very aware how such claim makes them look so they wouldn't do it.
Unless: They are town and they are just reaction testing.

3) It is a town PR who does not want scum visits. Do we believe a town PR approaches that goal this way?
Answer: No, if anything it draws attention to themselves and scum would be inclined to make sure they are not playing the Wifom game.
Unless: They are actually town vanilla, baiting the scum's visit to themselves.
Or, they are scum trying to make it look like they are town vanilla, baiting a scum visit.
I prefer the occam's razor conclusion, as there are more effective and less suspicious ways to accomplish the last one.

4) It is a shit post that can come from someone as any alignment, not a real claim. Is this a realistic conclusion?
Answer: Yes, it could be just a random RvS shitpost disguised as a claim. Do we care about it? No, unless we are in the business of PR hunting instead of scum hunting.

Conclusion

: At best it is town motivated claim unless they are a newbie who thought it'd get people to back off them, except they claimed it at a moment they were not under pressure, so why do it as scum?
At worst, it is a shitpost claim aka as not a real claim, which is how I took it. I'm not gonna worry about it and if they still hold the claim and we see them moving at night then we'll know something is up right?

After making this post and reading more content from Hu I can say I no longer have them in my scum pile.

[Guillotina]

Let's pile on this

VOTE: Naerys

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not re-vote Celeb?

[Guillotina]

Why not re-vote Celeb?

Cause I want pressure on Naerys

[Guillotina]

And i have updated my sig.

[Gamma Emerald]

[Guillotina]

That is a 210 pages game, mind taking us to the exact page that makes this relevant? Surely you dont expect us to read a full game to confirm your claim right?

Read the flips in the OP

I'm still lost about where i'm supposed to look, whatever.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ll find a place where the setup is posted and link that

[Gamma Emerald]

viewtopic.php?p=13977342#p13977342
Full setup of the game I linked earlier

[Guillotina]

viewtopic.php?p=13977342#p13977342
Full setup of the game I linked earlier

What in the bloody bastard fuck is that setup, everyone are millers!

[Gamma Emerald]

[davesaz]

viewtopic.php?p=13977342#p13977342
Full setup of the game I linked earlier

What in the bloody bastard fuck is that setup, everyone are millers!

In case you aren't familiar with them, "BooneyToonz" games (of which that is an example) tend to be a bit more extreme than anything else on site.
This one is a complex normal, which means there are likely to be unusual roles but not too far over the top.

[davesaz]

Someone had CSF as strong town, apparently because of 536.
That isn't a bad post but in isolation it wouldn't be difficult to fake, so I'd question awarding a read based on it.
Maybe after I hit submit I'll go back and see who that was...

[davesaz]

Kyouko, Kawaii, and CSF have the most points I should add. So if anyone has suspicions on those slots I'd love to talk them over with you.

What I was thinking about was this post, but I don't know if Keyleth has said why. Someone else quoted the CSF post that caught my eye.

[davesaz]

Just saying most / least points without any kind of backing feels really shallow and arbitrary to me.

[Guillotina]

Summary

Still pretending I'm an spectator where Guillotina is not me.

Not mafia/mafia

Hu/Guillo
Random Nurse/Guillo
Gamma/Guillo
Timmer/Guillo
Celebloki/Guillo
Black/Guillo
Kawaii/Guillo
Kyo/Guillo
Naerys/Guillo
Kyo/Kawaii
Dunn/Elements
Dave/Elements
Black/Elements
Gamma/Elements
Gamma/Random Nurse
Hu Tao/Timmer

What does this mean?

In a world where my pre-flip associations are 100% accurate (they've never been 100% accurate before, but really close they have).

Guillo

is unaligned with 9 players
Element is unaligned with with 4 Players
Gamma is unaligned 2 Players

This means that if Guillo was scum in this game, He spewed half the game town on Day 1 alone, and it would have been really easy to pinpoint who his teammates were, from the remaining players. Too bad Guillo is town, though.

This also means that if any of those 9 are scum, Guillo is spewed town from them
Counterpoint to that would be, Guillo did some premium distancing, but I'm hopeful that if any of them flip scum, Guillo would have helped town to prove his worth and loyalty besides this spew.

Elements

flipping scum would spew Dunn, Dave, Black and Gamma town.

Gamma

flipping scum would hard spew Elements and Random Nurse town.

Timmer

flipping scum would clear

Hu

and Vice versa.

Conclusion

Guillo being unaligned with 9 players out of 16 makes him thread spew town or the best infoyeet of 2023 if the majority of players here suspect him that much.

Elements would clear a whooping total of 4 players town, so if these two were scum together, the game would be pretty much on auto mode.

I can confirm that Guillo is not scum, so we are not living in a perfect world where town auto this shit.

Hopefully this injects my thoughts and process in the thread and I have helped you determine whether I deserve the sussuspicion I've gotten so far or not, as well as some insights about the interactions between some of the players.
If you have questions or concerns about this post or my previous posts, let me know.
Hopefully when I come back I'll have more info to analyze, but for now, good night.

VOTE: Celebloki

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: unvote

[Random Nurse]

Thank you. In a game of Mafia the mistrual of content is a grievous thing, and one I keep a keen eye out for.

RN gives towny vibes

[Keyleth]

Just saying most / least points without any kind of backing feels really shallow and arbitrary to me.

I can go into some answers if you want but I don't mind just playing in the background for the most part so I haven't really answered anything because it hasn't been asked ya know? Not trying to appear a certain way.

[Gamma Emerald]

@guillo

could you link a game where you’ve these preflips before?