Mini 2320: Smuggler's Port II [Endgame]

[HighPrincessErinys]

Hello! Tis nice to finally have work again after that

horrible

business with the HMS Mutiny... This one sees we already have a gameplan on how to deal our little smuggler problem, ey? And you, Gamma! How've you been after the Mutiny?

VOTE: SirCakez

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: kyouko bc i cannot understand 26 at all lmao

anti-town fr

[HighPrincessErinys]

This one likes it's RVS vote on Cakez now.

[HighPrincessErinys]

To me the main danger of the plan is just... the smugglers narrowing down the tomboy after a night or two of inspecting the copper and linen and seeing who's not showing up.

[HighPrincessErinys]

But alternatively, with no plan they could potentially see tea being sent in a shipment they were not a part of and narrow things down that way instead

Yeah, never said the plan wasn't better because this

is

an instant game over if the tomboy is caught like that, but still.

[HighPrincessErinys]

But alternatively, with no plan they could potentially see tea being sent in a shipment they were not a part of and narrow things down that way instead

Now I’m confused
What exactly are you saying here?

If scum sees a name that isn't one of them on a shipment with tea found in it, it gets ALOT easier for them.

[HighPrincessErinys]

This ISO, woof.

VOTE: atsi

[HighPrincessErinys]

BTW why is it called a Tomboy Daughter? What has that got to do with shipping and smuggling?

It's the PA's Tomboy Daughter who is presumably also a merchant at the port.

[HighPrincessErinys]

This ISO, woof.

Agreed, but to tell the truth, I don't think yours is much better.

There's a pretty noticeable difference in our ISOs in that this one isn't posting things that are meaningless or worse.

[HighPrincessErinys]

There's a pretty noticeable difference in our ISOs in that this one isn't posting things that are meaningless or worse.

You have a vague anti-town charge that you don't follow up on, then a few one-liners on setup spec. IMO it's not a great read.

SirCakez going "uhhh i dont understand *votes kyouko*" is glaringly obviously anti-town when she's literally in the process of basically solving the game for us. If that's "vague" to you... jeez.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Methinks putting atsi in the dirt (the water?) and letting Kyouko take their place in the 3x3 is better because Kyouko Gets Shit Done.

[HighPrincessErinys]

NGL Kyouko fucked up. It would have been better to ask if any of the low activity slots wanted to claim as vanilla merchant.

Feel like 1 merchant out of like 6 claiming is fine.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think we just proceed at this point. Everyone should chime in with the 3x3 Kyouko made and confirm what they are Shipping. I'm shipping

Copper

I have intent to vote Kyouko, but again, I don't want people to argue tomorrow that they got confused.

I'm shipping

Copper

Linen

on my end then.

[HighPrincessErinys]

There's a pretty noticeable difference in our ISOs in that this one isn't posting things that are meaningless or worse.

You have a vague anti-town charge that you don't follow up on, then a few one-liners on setup spec. IMO it's not a great read.

SirCakez going "uhhh i dont understand *votes kyouko*" is glaringly obviously anti-town when she's literally in the process of basically solving the game for us. If that's "vague" to you... jeez.

I feel like my vote on kyouko was pretty obviously a joke and I don't like how you're twisting it into me voting her because she was solving mech

I feel like due to most of the discussion being mech related, stretches aren’t exactly scummy here since there isn’t much play to grasp in terms of standard play

If HPE came back and said

Yeah it's a stretch, but there isn't much to go on yet,

then I'd agree. But she didn't. She doubled down and said it's "glaringly obviously anti-town."

To both you and Cakez: This one really doesn't care about the intent of "oh it was a joke" "oh it was rvs", if someone is contributing that heavily in a very mechanically tangible way that early, you do NOT RVS them. Not going to jump the shark and call Cakez outright scum for it but it is a vote that leaves a foul taste in my mouth regardless.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Pls confirm which item you are shipping

I thought I already said I was fine with the plan. Sorry.

I'm starting to think we should just lim Hu Tao at this point since she still hasn't said

which item

she intends to ship.

Kind of agree, the vagueness Kyouko's talking about is giving me bad vibes. We need people to

cooperate

here.

[HighPrincessErinys]

How to read the last two posts:

We should lim Hu... but I'm not going to be the one to cast the first vote.

Scummy af.

Ugh. THIS kind of post.

[HighPrincessErinys]

How to read the last two posts:

We should lim Hu... but I'm not going to be the one to cast the first vote.

Scummy af.

Ugh. THIS kind of post.

What's wrong with that post?

It's just useless stone throwing shade.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Pls confirm which item you are shipping

I thought I already said I was fine with the plan. Sorry.

I'm starting to think we should just lim Hu Tao at this point since she still hasn't said

which item

she intends to ship.

Kind of agree, the vagueness Kyouko's talking about is giving me bad vibes. We need people to

cooperate

here.

Okay, riddle me this. If I was scum why would I even risk being 'vague' even though it's clear that I said I agree with the plan already. I think this is pretty surface level read and I'm not sure how to read it.

Scum naturally want to interfere with the plan. This one will give you that their options are slim and that being vague or going onto a different item isn't the best idea, but all things considered they're probably gonna have to do SOMETHING to interrupt things or else its a VERY uphill battle.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I'm not sure it would seriously believe that as town. So Hpe could be scum. I'm not sure if it would be scum with atsi though. Hmm.

PLEASE

get real.
VOTE: Hu Tao

[HighPrincessErinys]

"oh well im not sure town!hpe believes that..." Who the fuck WOULDN'T believe that?? there is no reason for anyone of either alignment to doubt that Kyouko's plan, even the PRIOR one, are extremely mechanically sound and NEED to be tampered with if scum wants to have a decent chance at victory. You're just throwing tomatoes at me because you can't think of anything to actually build a case on me, because you know this one is right because you're a smuggler who's desperately trying to do exactly what it's talking about, aren't you?

[HighPrincessErinys]

There is this false narrative that I was being vague or against the plan. When neither of those th8ngs were ever the case

Yes you fucking WERE. You said you were fine with the plan, that's true, but you WERE also vague.


106, you agree to the 3 groups of 3 plan, nothing wrong there. What you neglected to do however is follow up on the fact that we did not rigidly stick to the proposed draft of who ships what exactly. Several people, including me, said they'd ship things in a way other than what was proposed by Kyouko in 76. There's nothing wrong with that, just getting 3 groups of 3 and making sure we're all on the same page. So then it's no wonder that everyone starts wondering "Hey, HT, did you read mechtalk?" and starts saying "Hey, HT is being vague about the plan, that's weird..." because you never confirmed and double-checked with the thread about what exactly you're shipping. You just keep saying "No guys, I've read! I get what we're doing! Trust me!" rather than saying if you're shipping wheat or linen or copper or what. It's exactly what this one is talking about and you fucking

know

it.

This one rests its case and is going to sleep now. Let this foul smuggling blighter sleep with the fishes.

[HighPrincessErinys]

there is no reason for anyone of either alignment to doubt that Kyouko's plan, even the PRIOR one, are extremely mechanically sound and NEED to be tampered with if scum wants to have a decent chance at victory.

So why aren't you voting kyouko?

Are you trying to say me not blindly voting Kyouko like an idiot is me tampering with the plan?

I don't like the trio of (Hu, atsi, HPE)
Someone in that pile is scum

HMMM... THIS ONE WONDERS WHO...

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think we just proceed at this point. Everyone should chime in with the 3x3 Kyouko made and confirm what they are Shipping. I'm shipping

Copper

I have intent to vote Kyouko, but again, I don't want people to argue tomorrow that they got confused.

I think we just proceed at this point. Everyone should chime in with the 3x3 Kyouko made and confirm what they are Shipping. I'm shipping

Copper

I have intent to vote Kyouko, but again, I don't want people to argue tomorrow that they got confused.

I'm shipping

Copper

I think we just proceed at this point. Everyone should chime in with the 3x3 Kyouko made and confirm what they are Shipping. I'm shipping

Copper

I have intent to vote Kyouko, but again, I don't want people to argue tomorrow that they got confused.

I like this plan, and I agree to ship

Wheat

.

I'd rather flip Atsi instead of Kyouko tbh.

VOTE: Atsi

I think we just proceed at this point. Everyone should chime in with the 3x3 Kyouko made and confirm what they are Shipping. I'm shipping

Copper

I have intent to vote Kyouko, but again, I don't want people to argue tomorrow that they got confused.

I'm shipping

Copper

Linen

on my end then.

I'll be shipping

Linen

tonight.

I will ship

wheat

I'll ship Wheat

Linen: HPE, atsi, Clap
Copper: Gamma, Cakes, Celebloki
Wheat: Roden, Dunn, Hu Tao

Cakes you ship Copper.

I'm shipping Linen.

Everyone has confirmed which item they are shipping, except for Hu Tao. When asked directly what item she intends to ship, it's always a vague answer like "I agree with the plan" instead of just answering the question.

I literally copied the wheat post and said yes i confirm. This is fake outrage. I've seen you as town and this is not comparable to before.

VOTE: atsi

Why are you still fucking lying? Why do you refuse to acknowledge the obvious that the jig is up and we all know you've been vague and unhelpful about the plan?

[HighPrincessErinys]

Go on, show us this cool post you made where you clearly and concisely confirm what goods you're shipping tonight. Link it, quote it, do SOMETHING to prove it exists. This one'll wait.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think you should address the issue that scum!Hu Tao would likely be more self-conscious
I think that’s the biggest proponent towards not voting her

You were just in a game with scum!HT same as me and you don't think there's similarities? You don't realize that scum!HT doesn't do that?

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: atsi

C'mon.

[HighPrincessErinys]

When Hu Tao casually plants a knife in your back this one will be cackling all the way home.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Go on, show us this cool post you made where you clearly and concisely confirm what goods you're shipping tonight. Link it, quote it, do SOMETHING to prove it exists. This one'll wait.

Linen: HPE, atsi, Clap
Copper: Gamma, Cakes, Celebloki
Wheat: Roden, Dunn, Hu Tao

Just snipping this for Hu Tao since I'm worried from the way they've confirmed what they'll ship that they are being intentionally vague about what they're agreeing to do ("the plan"). There have been 3 plans that I've thrown around toDay so just want to remind everyone it's not being done in the playerlist order

I don't know why this needs to be said like 5 times. I said I understand and agreed with the plan. :lol: but thanks

How is this not saying I understand and agree

Because you are NOT telling us what the HELL you are SHIPPING. Tell us! C'mon! Copper? Linen? Wheat? Tea? SOMETHING, woman.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think you should address the issue that scum!Hu Tao would likely be more self-conscious
I think that’s the biggest proponent towards not voting her

I'm starting to think maybe it's hpe over atsi. What do you think?

How can you even like, unironically do this. How do you have this little shame.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think you should address the issue that scum!Hu Tao would likely be more self-conscious
I think that’s the biggest proponent towards not voting her

You were just in a game with scum!HT same as me and you don't think there's similarities? You don't realize that scum!HT doesn't do that?

Ok what?? You mean the game where I was widely Town read the whole game??

How is this... even remotely a statement in your favor? Because right now everyone has their heads in the sand townreading someone who lies like it's second-nature as scum and is lying as this one speaks to them. Kinda exactly like that game, yeah.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Go on, show us this cool post you made where you clearly and concisely confirm what goods you're shipping tonight. Link it, quote it, do SOMETHING to prove it exists. This one'll wait.

Linen: HPE, atsi, Clap
Copper: Gamma, Cakes, Celebloki

Wheat: Roden, Dunn, Hu Tao

Just snipping this for Hu Tao since I'm worried from the way they've confirmed what they'll ship that they are being intentionally vague about what they're agreeing to do ("the plan"). There have been 3 plans that I've thrown around toDay so just want to remind everyone it's not being done in the playerlist order

I don't know why this needs to be said like 5 times. I said

I understand and agreed with the plan

. but thanks

How is this not saying I understand and agree

Because you are NOT telling us what the HELL you are SHIPPING. Tell us! C'mon! Copper? Linen? Wheat? Tea? SOMETHING, woman.

Hope this helps

Well, five years later and you finally point it out properly. Kinda. Still playing games and refusing to answer straightly that you're shipping wheat but whatever. So fine,

technically

the plan was alllllllllways fine as 220 and 221 tell us as the order hasn't changed and thus you don't

technically

have to confirm anything. It's allllllll cool and correct and this one is so obviously scummy for having to fight tooth and fucking nail with you for a remotely straight answer which is ALMOST just like the EXACT THING this one keeps going on about with trying to fuck with the plan, only... subtler. You're a confident liar as scum and being blatantly intentionally obtuse with the plan either way and my vote is sticking to you like glue because this one does not trust you for a SECOND considering how long it took to get you here, because you decided to be super weird and vague about things for no good reason. Because scum need to interfere. Go figure.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I'm sorry but HPE's outrage seems so fake to me. It's not that serious. The argument is basically: "You were good at scum last game, so this game since you aren't 100% clear on something the first time, you're probably scum again"

Go openwolf at someone else this one's done with you.

[HighPrincessErinys]

If it is actually town this game, then I'm sorry and we can talk about it post game. Because I just don't understand.

Just getting into character a little, perhaps. And calling it as it sees it.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think you should address the issue that scum!Hu Tao would likely be more self-conscious
I think that’s the biggest proponent towards not voting her

I'm starting to think maybe it's hpe over atsi. What do you think?

Is this because of the push or something else?

Preeeeeeeeeetty sure it's because of my push.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think you should address the issue that scum!Hu Tao would likely be more self-conscious
I think that’s the biggest proponent towards not voting her

I'm starting to think maybe it's hpe over atsi. What do you think?

It’s possible

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think you should address the issue that scum!Hu Tao would likely be more self-conscious
I think that’s the biggest proponent towards not voting her

I'm starting to think maybe it's hpe over atsi. What do you think?

It’s possible

Read the full post ffs
I’m saying I think atsi is the better flip

This one DID read the full post, and it's STILL disappointed.

[HighPrincessErinys]

You seem to be acting like everyone else is the problem when your mindset here is incredibly short-sighted.

Short-sighted how, exactly?

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think you’re not considering the long-term ramifications of Hu Tao’s play if she’s scum

The long-term ramifications are that she's showing her hand and hoping we don't have something better because that hand is undermining Kyouko's plan to try and save the scumteam's hide.

[HighPrincessErinys]

If all goes well with the gambit she doesn't get voted up and finds a way to weasel a small but fatal change in the plan that gives scum a better chance at winning come D2.

[HighPrincessErinys]

If all goes well with the gambit she doesn't get voted up and finds a way to weasel a small but fatal change in the plan that gives scum a better chance at winning come D2.

I don't understand what you think they're going to weasel out of on D2.

Losing. This one has alot of faith in the mechanics of the plan if that wasn't made obvious by it repeating like a broken record the importance of it and how scum will want to interfere.

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There’s only 2 ways to effectively interfere, and both result in the scum getting insta-voted?

They're losing either way unless they come up with something or get lucky, literally a matter of time.

[HighPrincessErinys]

HPE vs Hu could be TvT tbh

This one would be pretty pissed if after putting that much effort into things this turned out to be a Certified TvT Moment.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Really still don't know about this elimming Kyouko idea.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Going to assume tis a mere jest................................

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: HighPrincessErinys
I will ship

Linen

.
Claptastik ships

Copper

.

Everyone else

ships

Wheat

.

PA

checks either

Linen

or

Copper

.

We are guaranteed to catch scum if everyone follows this strat. Any deviation from this strat should be considered a scumclaim.

this will be the funniest townflip of my life

[HighPrincessErinys]

My gut wants to say atsi's town and Clap's the smuggler but it needs time to think here.

[HighPrincessErinys]

this one KNOWS it shipped linen, so yeah minor typo on the mods part

[HighPrincessErinys]

Ship Inspection

The following merchants are identified as sending shipments on the ship marked for Linen last night:

atsi
HighPrincessErinys
Claptastik

The office of the Port Authority announces that upon inspection, Tea, a contraband item,

has been found

on the ship, and we will follow up in pursuit of justice, fair trade, and public health.

Respectfully signed,

the Port Authority.

Shocking!! :lol:

Keep giggling you little rat.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: HighPrincessErinys
Kill Hu Tao, for me? :pleading:

[HighPrincessErinys]

Wanted to actually put a pleading emoji but it seems to make the site shit it self

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: HighPrincessErinys
Kill Hu Tao, for me? :pleading:

All groups with Private Topics (PTs) will be able to converse during the Night Phase.

👀

???

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: kyouko bc i cannot understand 26 at all lmao

anti-town fr

called it

[HighPrincessErinys]

Also HT actually being willfully ignorant shitposty town hurts my soul.