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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:07 pm

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sorry about the double quote... meh
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:07 pm

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In post 280, Ydrasse wrote: also elements asked in the small hood if asking about meta was helpful to me and yes, but to clarify more i think that it’s worthwhile to ask daisy about meta because how she frames it is relevant to her alignment.

i thought that it was curious how it was used to bolster elements for the most part and wanted to see if she had thought about other worlds pr how elements would play and i feel she had given it some thought which makes me thinks the way she’s using it isn’t to like… pocket elements or protect a partner

Look out Black, people are looking at Meta, sorry I couldn’t resist that one. I will stop now.
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:08 pm

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In post 304, OopsieDaisy wrote:LAMIST
please what is this, so much to learn
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:08 pm

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In post 315, Elements wrote: There's nothing Dann has done I can't see him doing as red team without much effort
I have to agree, but I just don't trust Dann. until I can tell if he is Red or Green. I know I have said it before, but it irks me.

For example in his sentence is a little long from what I can say is normal Dann, he would usually say “Black why am I town?” Basically what he is saying in about Ari.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:08 pm

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In post 344, OopsieDaisy wrote: Like if the expectation is that the small hood gets the focus, and you know that you're a player who is often hovering in danger of mislims Day 1, why would that be a good idea? The only answer I find is the WIFOM angle.
This sort of makes sense, but from whose angle, could the WIFOM be WIFOM? Although the more I read daisy the more I town lean them. So ok makes sense.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:09 pm

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In post 345, Dannflor wrote: i unironically think aristeia is the scum in the small hood because 253 is too nice

I am coming to this at the end in my summary but ok I will do it now as I just don’t like that whole passage of posts from Ari. Ok I am bias as its aimed at me, but even so;- vote me on a weak pretence, then give me advice?
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:09 pm

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In post 351, Black wrote: Why am I so high?
what are you snorting? :good:
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:10 pm

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In post 352, Dannflor wrote: and meuh's only real significant contribution to this game is 262 which feels like a scum post
Well forgive me but I liked it, because
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:13 pm

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So I do have a few reads,

Oppsie and Ydr are town right now based off of feel and their post content.

Black based on Projects reaction to his fake lim is town, and I like her content also so far

I'm null on most others but feel scum is in and around Dann/ Ari / Elements.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:15 pm

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I forgot to add, I don't feel the Meuh wagon at all. but again I could be bias
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:28 pm

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In post 392, Aristeia wrote:
In post 345, Dannflor wrote: i unironically think aristeia is the scum in the small hood because is too nice
I kind of feel like scum!dann never says this about me because its kind of icky and i think he knows i'm trying to be a nicer person after the last trainwreck we played through
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i didn’t think you were not nice in the last game we played fwiw
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:29 pm

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I probably phrased my read very poorly and I apologize
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:46 pm

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In post 408, Afrayed Knott wrote: I'm null on most others but feel scum is in and around Dann/ Ari / Elements.
Can you give us more on why you think there's red team in the three of us?
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:41 pm

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In post 412, Elements wrote:
In post 408, Afrayed Knott wrote: I'm null on most others but feel scum is in and around Dann/ Ari / Elements.
Can you give us more on why you think there's red team in the three of us?


Are you going to explain your logic in
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:33 am

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In post 402, Afrayed Knott wrote:
In post 304, OopsieDaisy wrote:LAMIST
please what is this, so much to learn
LAMIST stands for "Look at me, I'm so town!" and it describes a playstyle that players can see as a bit of a scumtell as it revolves around someone acting townie but in a performative way where their actions seem motivated by a want to look good rather than actually wanting to play a townie game.

Gets thrown at me a lot cause I am a player that wants to look good. My logic is that if I'm townread it puts me in a better position to control the game and therefore puts scum in a worse position to do so, alongside the fact that if I'm townread scum are just more likely to go down. Plus tbf I just play my best mafia in comfortable spots, under pressure sometimes I can just crack as town which is cringe but wcyd. Obvs the difference between LAMIST as a scumtell and LAMIST with me is that I play in a LAMIST way regardless of alignment, whereas for other players being LAMIST about things can be a genuine tell.
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:33 am

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In post 382, Elements wrote:
In post 380, Black wrote: After reading the setup my first thought was to fade in the small hood because I liked the odds but fading in the big hood is definitely more intriguing
it feels like a double edge sword, if we fade in the big group we can win, but we also only get assosiatives with 3 players? (kinda, not really but you get what I mean) But limmin in the small group we can get 6 assosiatives to look at ya know?
So to try and explain further with examples:
Day 1 we lim a town in the big hood
Big hood players 1 is actively pushing for the mislim
Small hood players 1 is pushing for a mislim but also protecting someone
The reverse being true for mislimming in the small hood but the protecting associatives can be looked at for 6 players rather than 3
Does that make more sense?
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:35 am

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In post 185, OopsieDaisy wrote: everyone starts at 1/3 odds in the small hood.

i've explained how i've got a lot of conflicting thoughts on the el slot, but there's nothing too concerning there so el stays at 1/3

sheeping ydrasse meta analysis for now cause i don't have knowledge on the slot, seems like an unlikely player to opt into the small hood. 1/6.

that leaves ari who hasn't rly townpinged me with anything they've done whatsoever and as i've talked about earlier there's an air of self-protection around the slot that feels scummy. 1/2 is what's left.
How have your small hood reads changed since this post?
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:40 am

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In post 409, Afrayed Knott wrote: I forgot to add, I don't feel the Meuh wagon at all. but again I could be bias
What's the reasoning behind the feeling?

My read on Meuh slipped when I realised my reason for townreading em was flawed. She originally came into the hood with a more nuanced take on how the hoods should operate and I was like "woah she knows what she's on about I like her". This isn't a good reason to townread someone tho, having that pre-knowledge if anything is very slightly mafia-indicative cause they're the ones who would've been chatting in their pt about the setup and their positioning prior to the start of the game.

Plus my vote was on Fire but was imo a great post and outlined a thought process I'm reading as genuine. Doesn't feel like something Fire just pulled out of their ass to hastily justify shakiness on me, it feels like this is something that's been playing on Fire's mind for a good chunk of this game.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:44 am

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In post 416, Elements wrote:
In post 185, OopsieDaisy wrote: everyone starts at 1/3 odds in the small hood.

i've explained how i've got a lot of conflicting thoughts on the el slot, but there's nothing too concerning there so el stays at 1/3

sheeping ydrasse meta analysis for now cause i don't have knowledge on the slot, seems like an unlikely player to opt into the small hood. 1/6.

that leaves ari who hasn't rly townpinged me with anything they've done whatsoever and as i've talked about earlier there's an air of self-protection around the slot that feels scummy. 1/2 is what's left.
How have your small hood reads changed since this post?
Idk it's a bit of a mess. I still wanna sheep Ydra meta stuff and on the surface I like what she's posting, but Black sorta threw that into question in her catch-up. Ari did a nice push on Afrayed I liked but since then hasn't done all that much (from what I remember of the game at least). I'm a bit stuck on how to read you too cause it seems my logic on your slot is a bit flawed based on how you're presenting your logic with the hoods.

tl:dr - the small hood isn't shaping up to be an easy boink out and that's cringe
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:52 am

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In post 418, OopsieDaisy wrote: Ari did a nice push on Afrayed I liked
Is there anything in Ari's push you think couldn't be made by competent red team?
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:53 am

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I feel like I'm being very naysayery about most expressed tonreads this game
But not much has happened yet so :shrug:
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In post 419, Elements wrote:
In post 418, OopsieDaisy wrote: Ari did a nice push on Afrayed I liked
Is there anything in Ari's push you think couldn't be made by competent red team?
Not really, doesn't change the fact I liked it tho. Even if Ari is red it was a good move for the town as a whole.
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In post 420, Elements wrote: I feel like I'm being very naysayery about most expressed tonreads this game
But not much has happened yet so :shrug:
Maybe I'm too focused on could rather than should
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:58 am

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*could rather than would
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