open 896: describing conker (game over)

[Elements]

I agree with everything Black has said and done this page

do you want me to hammer Meuh

Do it

[OopsieDaisy]

UNVOTE: Meuh

2/3 of the small hood being super chill with this push (the two that I thought were a lot more likely with Meuh) is ringing alarm bells even if I do absolutely see what Black is saying.

Meuh going for Ydra in the way she did doesn't make sense as scum and scum imo, even if there was an absence of a vote.

That leaves Ele or Ari but the above two messages don't seem very partnered, keeping in mind hitting the mafia in the big hood is gg so bussing is cringe in this format.

[Elements]

Meuh going for Ydra in the way she did doesn't make sense as scum and scum imo, even if there was an absence of a vote.

I dunno if I'd call what meuh did "going for" ydra

[Black]

Meuh going for Ydra in the way she did doesn't make sense as scum and scum imo, even if there was an absence of a vote.

Can you elaborate on this?

[Meuh]

Pressuring me is probably good for the gamestate actually

What happened to this opinion Meuh? It feels like a fake thought considering your reaction here

Pressuring me and killing me are not the same thing

[Meuh]

I contributed more meaningfully after I got votes on me, that was positive
Me (town) dying, is actually like, a bad thing!

[Meuh]

It feels like you’re trying to gotcha me, not sort me

[Meuh]

Like your argument against me feels uncharitable

[OopsieDaisy]

Meuh going for Ydra in the way she did doesn't make sense as scum and scum imo, even if there was an absence of a vote.

Can you elaborate on this?

I just don't see why Meuh would make a paranoid half-push there if scum with Ydra. When Ydra flips red and Meuh has clearly tried to create justification for a push on Ydra but didn't follow through, isn't that just gonna be seen as super scummy on another look through of Day 1?

I guess it could be a distancing tactic but it kinda loses any potency on a Ydra flip so I don't think it's a good play if they are both evil.

[Black]

Meuh going for Ydra in the way she did doesn't make sense as scum and scum imo, even if there was an absence of a vote.

Can you elaborate on this?

I just don't see why Meuh would make a paranoid half-push there if scum with Ydra. When Ydra flips red and Meuh has clearly tried to create justification for a push on Ydra but didn't follow through, isn't that just gonna be seen as super scummy on another look through of Day 1?

I guess it could be a distancing tactic but it kinda loses any potency on a Ydra flip so I don't think it's a good play if they are both evil.

This makes sense. I do think Meuh voting for Ydra would have been a better play if they are s/s

[Aristeia]

I kind of feel like elements is never partnered with meuh here because daring me to hammer her is wild if he's partnered with her and that just leaves Ydrasse and those interactions didn't feel partnered either.

[Aristeia]

meuh it’s very funny that you said pressuring you was good for the gamestate and then promptly disappeared

come back dannwoooooof

[Meuh]

VOTE: Meuh

e-1

I think there is some disconnect in her thought processes this game. 49 doesn't really mesh with 460 and I think a Ydra vote would make more sense considering Meuh's accusation in 452/453

I also think 363 doesn't really vibe with 439

I would rather fade her over fire

49/460 is uncharitable and doesn’t consider my posts in hood
I think I should clarify the point in 49 wasn’t “limming in big or small hood are equally good”, it was “we shouldn’t settle on limming in either hood early on because removing people from consideration for a lim very early hurts our information”
Your point on 363 relied on one post that was a pretty clear joke but you didn’t read around it, but then you reiterated it cause you really liked your point there instead of actually reconsidering
I had pause regarding Ydra by the end of our back and forth, she felt townier near the end, and I wanted to step back and reflect on it before taking action there, so I didn’t plop a vote down. Though I think me voting/not voting Ydra is like a surface level thing that matters a lot less than like, my actual posts in that exchange? Ydra wasn’t near death, a vote is symbolic at that point

[Black]

Pressuring me is probably good for the gamestate actually

What happened to this opinion Meuh? It feels like a fake thought considering your reaction here

Pressuring me and killing me are not the same thing

There's no better pressure than putting someone at e-1

Like your argument against me feels uncharitable

If you are town then I'm sorry you feel this way

[Meuh]

Pressuring me is probably good for the gamestate actually

What happened to this opinion Meuh? It feels like a fake thought considering your reaction here

Pressuring me and killing me are not the same thing

There's no better pressure than putting someone at e-1

Like your argument against me feels uncharitable

If you are town then I'm sorry you feel this way

The bad of putting me at E-1 (and making my death possible) outweighs the good of the pressure there, I don’t think this is a particularly crazy idea

[Black]

49/460 is uncharitable and doesn’t consider my posts in hood

49 came after your post in the hood where you were suggesting fading in the big hood is better. To me that makes it seem like you reevaluated and decided it's probably not best to decide to fade in either hood and just yeet the scummiest person instead

Your point on 363 relied on one post that was a pretty clear joke but you didn’t read around it, but then you reiterated it cause you really liked your point there instead of actually reconsidering

Can you explain the joke and how 439 is involved?

[Elements]

The bad of putting me at E-1 (and making my death possible) outweighs the good of the pressure there, I don’t think this is a particularly crazy idea

E-1 wagons are the most info thing that can happed day 1

[Black]

The bad of putting me at E-1 (and making my death possible) outweighs the good of the pressure there, I don’t think this is a particularly crazy idea

I disagree completely. I don't think anyone would dare fade you this early, and if they do and you flip town then that gives us something to work with. E-1 isn't as scary as you're making it out to be

[Meuh]

49/460 is uncharitable and doesn’t consider my posts in hood

49 came after your post in the hood where you were suggesting fading in the big hood is better. To me that makes it seem like you reevaluated and decided it's probably not best to decide to fade in either hood and just yeet the scummiest person instead

Your point on 363 relied on one post that was a pretty clear joke but you didn’t read around it, but then you reiterated it cause you really liked your point there instead of actually reconsidering

Can you explain the joke and how 439 is involved?

i had a dream that meuh said "sorry everyone but you can stop voting me, im not a deepwolf" and then i was gonna say "true, you're a shallow wolf" but then i thought that sounded mean so i didn't

[Meuh]

The bad of putting me at E-1 (and making my death possible) outweighs the good of the pressure there, I don’t think this is a particularly crazy idea

I disagree completely. I don't think anyone would dare fade you this early, and if they do and you flip town then that gives us something to work with. E-1 isn't as scary as you're making it out to be

I agree with everything Black has said and done this page

do you want me to hammer Meuh

I agree with everything Black has said and done this page

do you want me to hammer Meuh

Do it

[Black]

49/460 is uncharitable and doesn’t consider my posts in hood

49 came after your post in the hood where you were suggesting fading in the big hood is better. To me that makes it seem like you reevaluated and decided it's probably not best to decide to fade in either hood and just yeet the scummiest person instead

Your point on 363 relied on one post that was a pretty clear joke but you didn’t read around it, but then you reiterated it cause you really liked your point there instead of actually reconsidering

Can you explain the joke and how 439 is involved?

i had a dream that meuh said "sorry everyone but you can stop voting me, im not a deepwolf" and then i was gonna say "true, you're a shallow wolf" but then i thought that sounded mean so i didn't

Ok wow I totally missed this. My b

[Aristeia]

VOTE: dannflor

[Aristeia]

I'm like maybe 75% that limming dannflor will end this game

[Aristeia]

and meuh's only real significant contribution to this game is 262 which feels like a scum post

so im happy with a page 15 solve of ari/meuh

like I don't see how town dannflor feels that he's one vote away from winning a game vs me/meuh and just ghosts?

like I guess maybe he was just busy but I also feel like maybe it was just awkward for him to re-enter thread and actually interact with meuh when she's ateing because he doesn't know how to close her without making himself look bad and he hopes Black will push her over the edge for him.

it feels like he doesnt want to be here and I can see why he'd not want to be here if black!town is pushing meuh!town for him and he can just kind of cheer from the sidelines.

[Aristeia]

maybe he just has a life and has better things to do on a friday night than geek out on mafia message boards in which case im sorry i am needy and stupid