open 896: describing conker (game over)

[Dannflor]

push me you cowards

[shiki]

shiki feels like it's dancing around a read on me

why would this ‘dancing’ as you call it be scum indicative and not, ya know, me not knowing your alignment?

[shiki]

i can vote you if you’d like though

[Dannflor]

shiki feels like it's dancing around a read on me

why would this ‘dancing’ as you call it be scum indicative and not, ya know, me not knowing your alignment?

not knowing my alignment has not stopped you forming an opinion before

[shiki]

? i don’t have a lack of opinion though

i guess i misunderstood what you meant by dancing

[Dannflor]

i can vote you if you’d like though

please do

[Dannflor]

? i don’t have a lack of opinion though

i guess i misunderstood what you meant by dancing

i cannot tell what you think my alignment is atm

it feels like you don't want to explicitly say anything about me, you just wanna shade me

[shiki]

thought you meant like, unsure not having concrete stance, not like ‘lacking in opinions’

[shiki]

? i don’t have a lack of opinion though

i guess i misunderstood what you meant by dancing

i cannot tell what you think my alignment is atm

it feels like you don't want to explicitly say anything about me, you just wanna shade me

? your alignment is possibly town possibly not town? i think your stances with regards to my slot are ??? and the expectation that black would interact with you/aristeia differently if she was town seems … to me

but i am unaware of your past interactions with her so not going to put much weight on that

[Dannflor]

my point is you haven't really expressed anything concrete about my slot!

you keep asking people about me and expressing doubt about my thought processes and reads which would make me think you scum read me but you also talk about not feeling comfortable hero shooting in the big hood which makes me think you don't have any significant scum reads yet

i don't know i am getting the feeling that you *want* to push me but don't actually want to me the one to do it

pedit: i mean i guess it's fine if your opinion is just "I dunno yet"

I know you've just replaced in

but i think you've found a number of things "wrong" with my slot in terms of my stances and expectations regarding you so it's curious to me that isn't instantly ringing bigger alarm bells for you if you're town here

[Dannflor]

like what are the reasons for me being town

[shiki]

i can vote you if you’d like though

please do

VOTE: dannflor

unsure how this is productive from your point of view but alas

[Dannflor]

i can vote you if you’d like though

please do

VOTE: dannflor

unsure how this is productive from your point of view but alas

well i think you're scum and it is productive to me for focus to be brought to me versus you rather than everyone pushing their own vanity wagons

[shiki]

my point is you haven't really expressed anything concrete about my slot!

you keep asking people about me and expressing doubt about my thought processes and reads which would make me think you scum read me but you also talk about not feeling comfortable hero shooting in the big hood which makes me think you don't have any significant scum reads yet

i don't know i am getting the feeling that you *want* to push me but don't actually want to me the one to do it

pedit: i mean i guess it's fine if your opinion is just "I dunno yet"

I know you've just replaced in

but i think you've found a number of things "wrong" with my slot in terms of my stances and expectations regarding you so it's curious to me that isn't instantly ringing bigger alarm bells for you if you're town here

because my thoughts aren’t black and white in this way? and it seems very strange to me that you would expect them to be?

not confident hero shooting because my confidence not high enough to outweigh choosing the less safe option right now

i don’t ‘want’ to push anyone that’s not really how i play would rather interact on length make best choice based on information i have see if it still feels right as people react to etc

i don’t think you understand how i express ‘alarm bells’ in general because those things i’m noting are just that

[shiki]

i can vote you if you’d like though

please do

VOTE: dannflor

unsure how this is productive from your point of view but alas

well i think you're scum and it is productive to me for focus to be brought to me versus you rather than everyone pushing their own vanity wagons

only i’m not a scums and if you’re not then this is just purely destructive

when you could just like interact with me in a way that gives you a chance to see that i’m town if you’re town

rather than like challenging me to push you and calling me a coward and such

which sure i am i don’t like to be wrong even now i want to unvote etc but like, shrug

[Dannflor]

some pertinent information is that we do have about 24 hours on the deadline so we do need to be choosing who we would most like to eliminate

[Dannflor]

when you could just like interact with me in a way that gives you a chance to see that i’m town if you’re town

ok do your thing and try to find scum

you're right that engaging you like this isn't really doing anything to change my mind

[shiki]

some pertinent information is that we do have about 24 hours on the deadline so we do need to be choosing who we would most like to eliminate

i am aware of this and was working towards just that; thus why i was expressing preference for eliminating in the smaller hood

[Dannflor]

is your preference elements?

[shiki]

when you could just like interact with me in a way that gives you a chance to see that i’m town if you’re town

ok do your thing and try to find scum

you're right that engaging you like this isn't really doing anything to change my mind

well because it isn’t meant to like saying ‘push me let’s 1v1’ has no possible town benefit if you’re town and gives me no chance to be town from your point of view because then it’s just purely - - -

[OopsieDaisy]

Ok gamers I'm just stuck right now. Essentially I wanted to look at other people in the big hood who hadn't been posting much like Afrayed and Dann but I've come to the realisation I can't rly do that without solving Fire first. He's the one person left in the POE so in order to break past that I need to justify to my head why I can let myself push past that.

The issue is I don't know how to solve Fire because he's mostly just been pushing me in recent pages and I don't know how to separate my bias from just objectively analysing the push. It's completely broke my brain lol. Like I think the push is just a bit shit and uses one mid read of mine to justify continuing to sit on me for the entire game, but it doesn't look like anyone in the game actually agrees with me on this so is it just bias?

I've wanted to maybe look at associatives in the small hood but with El there's been little interaction (El was on the push onto Fire but El's been on p much every push this game lmao) and Ari's 575 feels like way too easy of a fold on what is a good point towards me being town so I think both of the sussy small hood gamers are likely to be with a scum!Fire in a scum!Fire world, tho based on gamestate I prefer my vote being on El right now.

I'll be honest Dann and Ari just seem like they're talking past each other based on a skim, but I've not had the energy to properly analyse any recent posting so take that with a grain of salt.

this post is so odd to me - time traveler energy feels so removed from everything around it

and solving afrayed knott or dannflor solves fireisredsir i don't really understand why there need be any order whatsoever

solving anyone person in the big hood solves them all

basically what happened was that i was just really distracted by the push. like the scummiest person in the big hood from my POV is pushing me for shit reasons i just like could not look away no matter how hard i tried.

tho i like dann right now a lot. the ari thing could've been opportunistic but the combative approach to gunning for you all of a sudden is so townie. dann is here making things happen and i love that.

in terms of the read on you i don't think i agree but also i have zero knowledge on the black meta so how can I? the thing that pings me on your slot is the double replacement with replacements being typically more scum indicative for a slot, but i don't think that's worth a push whatsoever and nothing you've said has pinged me as scummy so far so it would feel a bit unfair.

i agree we should just take a shot in the small hood, we've not got much time left and i don't really see a big hood member i'd be happy to consolidate on bar maybe fire.

pedit: ok big 1v1 happening but i'm hanging out with the gf now so I'll get to reading it at some point

[shiki]

is your preference elements?

probably ydrasse as of this exact moment but not feeling great about that either

[Dannflor]

when you could just like interact with me in a way that gives you a chance to see that i’m town if you’re town

ok do your thing and try to find scum

you're right that engaging you like this isn't really doing anything to change my mind

well because it isn’t meant to like saying ‘push me let’s 1v1’ has no possible town benefit if you’re town and gives me no chance to be town from your point of view because then it’s just purely - - -

mostly im just trying to get you take a concrete stance on me

i wanted to see if egging you on would like make you mad or get you to scum read me harder or something

[Dannflor]

is your preference elements?

probably ydrasse as of this exact moment but not feeling great about that either

what edges ydrasse out for you over the other two?

[Ydrasse]

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