Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)
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DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Celebloki He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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Maybe FL, Dunn, Roden is a good solve. Bingle or RC could be in there swapping one of the others out. There's definitely scum somewhere in those 5. Probably 2.-
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Dunnstral he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Why is Roden voting for me?
I feel like I'm onto something in pointing to AnimatedWiz only being able to talk about me or defend themselves.-
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Bingle Survivor
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FTFYIn post 1052, Dunnstral wrote: Why is anyone voting for me?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Bingle Survivor
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I’m gonna laugh post game if you named half the playerlist and hit 0 scum.In post 1051, Celebloki wrote: Maybe FL, Dunn, Roden is a good solve. Bingle or RC could be in there swapping one of the others out. There's definitely scum somewhere in those 5. Probably 2."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Dunnstral he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Celebloki is being weird and decided trying to get themselves eliminated is a good play. I think It is a better idea to go for someone playing in the background this day phase.-
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Dunnstral he/himSurvivorhe/him
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People playing in the background this day phase: AnimatedWiz, Hu Tao, RCEnigma, SirCakez, Thomith-
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Celebloki He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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idk what your talking about, it's a truly masterful play /s. My whole goal here is to get people talking and out of the background. If scum want my wagon to succeed they either need to hop on it or try to push more townies onto it.-
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Dunnstral he/himSurvivorhe/him
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You are going off the assumption that mafia are scrambling to try to save me and piling onto you. I'm not mafia so likely mafia are instead sitting back doing nothing, if you are town. I find Thomith's current position suspect, they apparently want to vote me out but are voting for you instead. AnimatedWiz's iso is 85% about me and 10% defending themself. I mean look at this:Spoiler:
Hu Tao pops in every so often to say we should eliminate someone but gives no reasoning and then makes a filler post and leaves, and then 24 hours later comes back in and says we should eliminate the same person again with no new reasoning. SirCakez seems to be busy but is angling for you in their latest post - it's a bit of a mystery what they think about me. RCEnigma's last post is saying we need votes for pressure and they're the only player not voting. They have offered some talk of the wagon but not much else, including not giving a clear stance - they just call it 'interesting'.-
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Celebloki He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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You're making a lot of sense. I can be behind moving off you onto RC or Cakez. I'm still inclined on giving Hu a pass for today because she plays like this as town anyway.
I'm actually more interested in flip flopping on Naerys. I've also been giving her a pass because I felt like she normally also plays in the background like this, but her last post pinged me. She's responding to my hyperbolic
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My criticism in the above was mostly aimed at posts like she makes:
In post 937, Naerys wrote: How about slowing down a bit? E-2 when we have like 8 days left?
Comes in and criticizes wagons without adding anything, says to slow down, then disappears again. I've been in too many games recently where the town lukewarmly plods along saying things like this, then we get to deadline and everyone's panicking pushing claims before settling on a mislim.
In post 1036, Naerys wrote: We have over 6 days left and Cele whimpers something about panic wagoning. Kindly stop trying to make ppl panic, when there is plenty of time left and we have solid targets of suspiction. It feels kinda scummy
Funnily enough she comes into to say the thing I'm criticizing her about. I wasn't panic wagoning in my post, I was saying people like her need to get more active and not lead us into a panic wagon at deadline. Why does everyone seem to want to coast through the Day phase saying to slow down, but then never actually come in and advance anything.
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Celebloki He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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I'm not saying people should have come in and finished your wagon with the last votes on it, but at least come in and defend it, push it, analyze people on it, something. Not complacently say we have time to slack off and do nothing.-
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SirCakez he/himIs A Liehe/him
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Why are you acting like your fate is sealed? There's an equal counter wagon and a lot of time left today..In post 1049, Celebloki wrote: Then vote me out to break up some of those misconceptions. See my flip and maybe let the game start progressing instead of flaccidly plodding along. Pay attention to who let me egg them onto my wagon and who avoided it with a ten foot pole.
At this point I do think FL is probably scum. I think Thomith is confused about what I going on about and Naerys let me egg her onto my wagon. Maybe Bingle is town.
idk why people think I'm panicking, I'm pushing my own wagon since it's the only one people seem to care about. I'm not trying to get people off of it lol. I don't consider what I'm doing as throwing btw. I'm pulling a D1 FL that my flip will maybe galvanize the game to start moving forward.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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SirCakez he/himIs A Liehe/him
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I need to read the back pages before I have a take on you because it seems like the wagon formed while I wasn't hereIn post 1058, Dunnstral wrote: You are going off the assumption that mafia are scrambling to try to save me and piling onto you. I'm not mafia so likely mafia are instead sitting back doing nothing, if you are town. I find Thomith's current position suspect, they apparently want to vote me out but are voting for you instead. AnimatedWiz's iso is 85% about me and 10% defending themself. I mean look at this:Spoiler:
Hu Tao pops in every so often to say we should eliminate someone but gives no reasoning and then makes a filler post and leaves, and then 24 hours later comes back in and says we should eliminate the same person again with no new reasoning. SirCakez seems to be busy but is angling for you in their latest post - it's a bit of a mystery what they think about me. RCEnigma's last post is saying we need votes for pressure and they're the only player not voting. They have offered some talk of the wagon but not much else, including not giving a clear stance - they just call it 'interesting'.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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How am I in the background?In post 1056, Dunnstral wrote: People playing in the background this day phase: AnimatedWiz, Hu Tao, RCEnigma, SirCakez, Thomith-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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You were still the main wagon, but if scum were already on you, they don’t have that much leverage to push you further so i feel like this is Celeb bluffing bravado. I’ve never seen Celebloki play like this, so it does feel scummy.In post 1055, Dunnstral wrote: Celebloki is being weird and decided trying to get themselves eliminated is a good play. I think It is a better idea to go for someone playing in the background this day phase.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Dunnstral he/himSurvivorhe/him
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I didn't include Naerys in my list because when reading her iso I found her to be more aggressive which did not fit with what I was saying. She has a low post count but it is not a large gap from her day 1 play and the posts she does have don't feel like trying to do nothing.In post 1059, Celebloki wrote: You're making a lot of sense. I can be behind moving off you onto RC or Cakez. I'm still inclined on giving Hu a pass for today because she plays like this as town anyway.
I'm actually more interested in flip flopping on Naerys. I've also been giving her a pass because I felt like she normally also plays in the background like this, but her last post pinged me. She's responding to my hyperbolic
Spoiler:
My criticism in the above was mostly aimed at posts like she makes:
In post 937, Naerys wrote: How about slowing down a bit? E-2 when we have like 8 days left?
Comes in and criticizes wagons without adding anything, says to slow down, then disappears again. I've been in too many games recently where the town lukewarmly plods along saying things like this, then we get to deadline and everyone's panicking pushing claims before settling on a mislim.
In post 1036, Naerys wrote: We have over 6 days left and Cele whimpers something about panic wagoning. Kindly stop trying to make ppl panic, when there is plenty of time left and we have solid targets of suspiction. It feels kinda scummy
Funnily enough she comes into to say the thing I'm criticizing her about. I wasn't panic wagoning in my post, I was saying people like her need to get more active and not lead us into a panic wagon at deadline. Why does everyone seem to want to coast through the Day phase saying to slow down, but then never actually come in and advance anything.
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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I also specifically know Naerys as a thorny player, and Celebloki was in the 2 games I saw this in, so idk why that stands out for Naerys here.
I’m picking up big frantic vibes that I have never felt from Celeb before.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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Roden’s Wiz vote is potentially momentum shifting, and could be a Celeb partner.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Dunnstral he/himSurvivorhe/him
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You mostly respond to suspicion on yourself or pop in to say you're "still fine" with your vote:In post 1064, Hu Tao wrote:
How am I in the background?In post 1056, Dunnstral wrote: People playing in the background this day phase: AnimatedWiz, Hu Tao, RCEnigma, SirCakez, Thomith
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You are not saying anything new, have not commented on Celebloki, or really explored other options.-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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I think I said celebloki could be scum, but right now I'm fine with you or wiz.-
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Is CelebIn post 1041, Bingle wrote:In post 1038, Roden wrote: If Celeb is scum then I don't really have a problem with him randomly asking to be voted out and people deciding that he should be voted out
These posts give me the impression you’re not really reading.In post 1039, Roden wrote:
Who's panicking?In post 1036, Naerys wrote: We have over 6 days left and Cele whimpers something about panic wagoning. Kindly stop trying to make ppl panic, when there is plenty of time left and we have solid targets of suspiction. It feels kinda scummynotrepeatedly asking to be voted out...?-
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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What? i expressed my suspictions on Dunn and AWiz few times, besides i said i was kinda tired cuz pre-christmas stress and work stuffIn post 1059, Celebloki wrote: Funnily enough she comes into to say the thing I'm criticizing her about. I wasn't panic wagoning in my post, I was saying people like her need to get more active and not lead us into a panic wagon at deadline. Why does everyone seem to want to coast through the Day phase saying to slow down, but then never actually come in and advance anything.-
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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Idk to me it feels like you are trying to push through a speedlimIn post 1060, Celebloki wrote: I'm not saying people should have come in and finished your wagon with the last votes on it, but at least come in and defend it, push it, analyze people on it, something. Not complacently say we have time to slack off and do nothing.-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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UNVOTE:
I'll think it over
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