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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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Do we have any other workable information to use for Today?-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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No. Please end our suffering. Give us the night for Christmas-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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We've talked about the same thing over and over again. There is no use stalling. Except people losing interest in the game.-
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Dunnstral he/himSurvivorhe/him
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You need to offer new information to talk about then.
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Enchant Hannibal Lecter
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You need replacement/players ASAP? PM me! I almost always accept.-
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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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VOTE: ElementsI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
All my completed games-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Thank you for your service. Random Nurse you said you'd be on me. So be on me tonight, if not say so before day end.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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I'll be targeting Hu Tao.
Town, if I die and there's only one NK understand it's still possible she's Scum because I was the NK target. If there's 2 NKs and Hu Tao is alive then she's likely Town.-
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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Okay, thanks for info-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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OK so I might target Naerys instead.-
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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Dont mind me, i am just bored. But do as you wish-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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bruh.. please confirm who you are targeting.In post 2909, Random Nurse wrote: OK so I might target Naerys instead.-
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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RN should not confirm his target. I've explained multiple times why it is pointless to claim it beforehand.P,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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Broccoli Quest 2 theyGoonthey
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Elements is already hammered I thinkP,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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this was hammer pretty sure
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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In post 2896, Jingle wrote:Yeah, last VC they were E-2, then Timmer voted (E-1) and Elements voted (hammer)
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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No, but next day we can fry some broccoli
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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If Elements flips town, checking on-wagon is good, and if scum - off-wagon is good. I don't think there was bussing involved if Elements is scumP,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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I'm going to run through the possible combinations myself to see whether claiming it matters.
For the case where the information hurts, suppose RN says who he's targeting, the target lives, but the target is scum and something else interferes with the disloyal vig. We get an incorrect clear.
This 2nd case also applies if RN survives and reveals the target as clear tomorrow.
The scum target surviving case would rely on scum having a 2nd way to interfere with actions. That might still be plausible in a game which seems to have multiples, but how probable is it?
For completeness, there could be an unclaimed town role who can interfere but that would be throwing at this point so we can ignore it.
If there isn't a source of interference (the FAR more likely case) AND the resolution is kills are equal, a target on scum yields a vig whether RN is killed or not. In this case knowing who the target is does not help at all, we see it in the night results.
If RN's target is known, lives, and RN dies we get a clear.
If RN's target is unknown, lives, and RN dies we don't get information and the missing information is a clear. This looks like the only likely case where not revealing the target ahead of time matters.
Now, is Kyouko scum trying to deny town information, or just wrong? I lean toward wrong not scum on overall play, but the dividing line between pushy town and manipulative is very thin.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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Reminder that having me clear and preserving my result yields 2 information. That's worse than successfully vigging scum, and better than getting a clear and losing my information.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Broccoli Quest 2 theyGoonthey
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What even is your reason for scumreading meEven my signature is green :)-
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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RN is combined bodyguard disloyal vig, meaning if he targets scum, he both vigs and bodyguards them, resulting in his own death, so we don't "see it in the night results".
If he announces he is targeting scum, scum can kill him or no-kill and it will look the same in the Morning as it would if he announced he was targeting town and scum decided to kill RN.P,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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ssbm_Kyouko She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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I think dave, you are misunderstanding how RN's role works, and maybe others are as well if there is confusion around why it is wrong for him to announce his target.P,Polarized!I,Intelligent!N,Never wrong!K,Kyouko!
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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I dont believe he is both. That claim of his just feels...mehIn post 2922, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: RN is combined bodyguard disloyal vig,
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