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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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You're not a compromise wagon and they aren't naked votes. I asked people to vote you because we (your voters) were already suspicious of you last time you were the wagon and gave our reasoning then. Then your wagon dissolved and the game centered around Hu Tao and Bingle for nearly a week, and when that resolved we went back to you.In post 1671, SirCakez wrote:
I don't think this is an accurate take on my play this game at all. I feel I have been pretty invested especially later today because I'm actually developing some reads I feel good about. I hate how you're trying to hand wave me being mad away without actually addressing the underlying reasoning for that - because both times the wagon has been mostly naked votes and hurr durr compromise votes with little in the way of people actually talking about why they think I'm scummyIn post 1668, Roden wrote: Why are you clenching your fists and stomping your feet here? You've barely been around. Half the time I see your posts, you're promising to give more content later, but then when you do show up your posts show so little investment in the game. Like I'd understand being upset if you just randomly got flash wagon'd after putting in effort to solve for a month, but you'vebeengetting sussed out for awhile now.-
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What? Why would it be suspicious if you weren't pissed off?In post 1672, SirCakez wrote:
I left the game thinking the game was going this wayIn post 1584, SirCakez wrote:
Yes let's pick between these two, I hope it's Hu but even if it is Bingle we will get a lot of infoIn post 1564, AnimatedWiz wrote: I think solidifying our votes down to Hu Tao or Bingle is probably the only way we’ll actually get an elimination through today, considering we have less than 48 hours left in D2.
I would definitely prefer for Bingle to go over Hu Tao, but I think either going will get us more information once they flip and we see how people read them and such.
I come back at L-1 with a claim being demanded. If anything I would think it would be suspicious if I wasn't pissed off here.
Also it isn't simply because you're mad, it just seems very overblown, and because of how similar it feels to the last time you did this it also feels scripted.-
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In post 1627, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In my traitor game, you had the right read there, but didn't give any reasonings for the read. I do think it would have been hard, but this followed into that game you were Masons, and we were on the verge of victory. You needed my vote to fade Firebringer, and didnt give any reasonings there either, when I was even making some, but I needed to be convinced, that back and forth, otherwise just felt like you were walling. We had Dann too, and really was in a situation where we just needed to get a flip or go further into black hole circular arguments.In post 1623, Hu Tao wrote:
This is a fair criticism. I think it started from when I went on vacation and didn't have enough time to play and it carried over to the holidays. I'll try to change this though going forward.In post 1619, Bingle wrote:
I didn't specify that she's bad at scum. I believe she's too self oriented to be good at the game in general. That has nothing to do with complex strategies, just personality.In post 1613, Roden wrote: You just said you don't think she's good at playing scum
I think we are in a similar situation here, where we need a flip to progress, so I'm happy with Cakez.
These all read obviously like compromise votes to meIn post 1640, AnimatedWiz wrote: I’m fine with Cakez as well—not as much information will be gained, but I do think it’ll be accurate, at least.
VOTE: SirCakez.
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I looked at your ISO and you haven't even talked about why you think I'm scum since over a week ago where you said you leaned scum because of an interaction with Naerys I had.In post 1676, Roden wrote:
You're not a compromise wagon and they aren't naked votes. I asked people to vote you because we (your voters) were already suspicious of you last time you were the wagon and gave our reasoning then. Then your wagon dissolved and the game centered around Hu Tao and Bingle for nearly a week, and when that resolved we went back to you.In post 1671, SirCakez wrote:
I don't think this is an accurate take on my play this game at all. I feel I have been pretty invested especially later today because I'm actually developing some reads I feel good about. I hate how you're trying to hand wave me being mad away without actually addressing the underlying reasoning for that - because both times the wagon has been mostly naked votes and hurr durr compromise votes with little in the way of people actually talking about why they think I'm scummyIn post 1668, Roden wrote: Why are you clenching your fists and stomping your feet here? You've barely been around. Half the time I see your posts, you're promising to give more content later, but then when you do show up your posts show so little investment in the game. Like I'd understand being upset if you just randomly got flash wagon'd after putting in effort to solve for a month, but you'vebeengetting sussed out for awhile now.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Oh and these riveting postsIn post 1589, Roden wrote: Can we just flip CakezBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I find when I'm scum I don't get the same level of emotion/frustration about being eliminated because it's just town doing scumhunting on whatever they find in my play that's scummy. When I'm town getting mislimmed it's super obnoxious because people are either misreading me or scum pushing me for a mislim which both annoy me a lot more then getting caught as scumIn post 1677, Roden wrote:
What? Why would it be suspicious if you weren't pissed off?In post 1672, SirCakez wrote:
I left the game thinking the game was going this wayIn post 1584, SirCakez wrote:
Yes let's pick between these two, I hope it's Hu but even if it is Bingle we will get a lot of infoIn post 1564, AnimatedWiz wrote: I think solidifying our votes down to Hu Tao or Bingle is probably the only way we’ll actually get an elimination through today, considering we have less than 48 hours left in D2.
I would definitely prefer for Bingle to go over Hu Tao, but I think either going will get us more information once they flip and we see how people read them and such.
I come back at L-1 with a claim being demanded. If anything I would think it would be suspicious if I wasn't pissed off here.
Also it isn't simply because you're mad, it just seems very overblown, and because of how similar it feels to the last time you did this it also feels scripted.
I don't know what to say about your second point, it's just how I talk /shrugBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Yes...which is why I brought up that you were a wagon a week ago and that your current wagon is a return to that.In post 1679, SirCakez wrote:
I looked at your ISO and you haven't even talked about why you think I'm scum since over a week ago where you said you leaned scum because of an interaction with Naerys I had.In post 1676, Roden wrote:
You're not a compromise wagon and they aren't naked votes. I asked people to vote you because we (your voters) were already suspicious of you last time you were the wagon and gave our reasoning then. Then your wagon dissolved and the game centered around Hu Tao and Bingle for nearly a week, and when that resolved we went back to you.In post 1671, SirCakez wrote:
I don't think this is an accurate take on my play this game at all. I feel I have been pretty invested especially later today because I'm actually developing some reads I feel good about. I hate how you're trying to hand wave me being mad away without actually addressing the underlying reasoning for that - because both times the wagon has been mostly naked votes and hurr durr compromise votes with little in the way of people actually talking about why they think I'm scummyIn post 1668, Roden wrote: Why are you clenching your fists and stomping your feet here? You've barely been around. Half the time I see your posts, you're promising to give more content later, but then when you do show up your posts show so little investment in the game. Like I'd understand being upset if you just randomly got flash wagon'd after putting in effort to solve for a month, but you'vebeengetting sussed out for awhile now.-
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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I hate meta claims like these because you would absolutely never claim this if you'd had the opposite reaction to getting voted. So this is pretty meaningless to me.In post 1681, SirCakez wrote:
I find when I'm scum I don't get the same level of emotion/frustration about being eliminated because it's just town doing scumhunting on whatever they find in my play that's scummy. When I'm town getting mislimmed it's super obnoxious because people are either misreading me or scum pushing me for a mislim which both annoy me a lot more then getting caught as scumIn post 1677, Roden wrote:
What? Why would it be suspicious if you weren't pissed off?In post 1672, SirCakez wrote:
I left the game thinking the game was going this wayIn post 1584, SirCakez wrote:
Yes let's pick between these two, I hope it's Hu but even if it is Bingle we will get a lot of infoIn post 1564, AnimatedWiz wrote: I think solidifying our votes down to Hu Tao or Bingle is probably the only way we’ll actually get an elimination through today, considering we have less than 48 hours left in D2.
I would definitely prefer for Bingle to go over Hu Tao, but I think either going will get us more information once they flip and we see how people read them and such.
I come back at L-1 with a claim being demanded. If anything I would think it would be suspicious if I wasn't pissed off here.
Also it isn't simply because you're mad, it just seems very overblown, and because of how similar it feels to the last time you did this it also feels scripted.
I don't know what to say about your second point, it's just how I talk /shrug-
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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The new deadline: (expired on 2023-12-31 09:11:00)Last edited by Gamma Emerald on Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.<Embrace The Void>
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Sup people in my phone
I'm currently trying to go to sleep so won't be reading until tomorrowI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Ok so guess we're at an impasse hereIn post 1683, Roden wrote:
I hate meta claims like these because you would absolutely never claim this if you'd had the opposite reaction to getting voted. So this is pretty meaningless to me.In post 1681, SirCakez wrote:
I find when I'm scum I don't get the same level of emotion/frustration about being eliminated because it's just town doing scumhunting on whatever they find in my play that's scummy. When I'm town getting mislimmed it's super obnoxious because people are either misreading me or scum pushing me for a mislim which both annoy me a lot more then getting caught as scumIn post 1677, Roden wrote:
What? Why would it be suspicious if you weren't pissed off?In post 1672, SirCakez wrote:
I left the game thinking the game was going this wayIn post 1584, SirCakez wrote:
Yes let's pick between these two, I hope it's Hu but even if it is Bingle we will get a lot of infoIn post 1564, AnimatedWiz wrote: I think solidifying our votes down to Hu Tao or Bingle is probably the only way we’ll actually get an elimination through today, considering we have less than 48 hours left in D2.
I would definitely prefer for Bingle to go over Hu Tao, but I think either going will get us more information once they flip and we see how people read them and such.
I come back at L-1 with a claim being demanded. If anything I would think it would be suspicious if I wasn't pissed off here.
Also it isn't simply because you're mad, it just seems very overblown, and because of how similar it feels to the last time you did this it also feels scripted.
I don't know what to say about your second point, it's just how I talk /shrug
I'd like to hear from the other wagon residentsBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Roden He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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I would like to hear from Elements as well, if that’s all right. I think someone who hasn’t been slogging in these trenches with us for the last week can probably add some, uh, fresh perspective that we’re all too mired to discover ourselves.Hi, I'm Annie! Please have patience with me—I am disabled.-
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AnimatedWiz He/HimGoonHe/Him
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I just am not having an easy time reading the majority of y’all this game—keep second-guessing myself and my intuition. Feels like everyone’s talking in riddles from behind masks, and there’s enough of y’all I feel that way about that I know it can’t be the only detector of scumminess I use… even if it’s what I mostly have at this point.
…is there a possibility we go back to Bingle? I would really like that information to help me read everyone.
VOTE: Bingle.Hi, I'm Annie! Please have patience with me—I am disabled.-
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I would like to hear from Bingle since I changed my read on him.-
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Damn i wrote that much while being that checked out
I really can just autopilotCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I don’t really like meta reasonings much, and i don’t know why I’m on Cakez other than the possibility i could see them as scum. I need a flip.In post 1688, Roden wrote: Leaf, what do you think?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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I hate reading games
I'm at page 8 and I'll I've written so far is:
99 feels over explained
82 feels like something town!Daisy would write
Which overall doesn't make much sense because town!daisy overexplains things all the time. She's also not in the gameI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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In post 425, Bingle wrote:BloopIn post 400, Celebloki wrote: Do we 'Bloop' here?
If this is my legacy I can die happyIn post 50, Bingle wrote:BloopI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Who is town!daisy?In post 1694, Elements wrote: I hate reading games
I'm at page 8 and I'll I've written so far is:
99 feels over explained
82 feels like something town!Daisy would write
Which overall doesn't make much sense because town!daisy overexplains things all the time. She's also not in the gamethomith could be a court jester
I have a Large Normal currently Ongoing.
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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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The way OopsieDaisy plays when she's townIn post 1697, Thomith wrote: Who is town!daisy?I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Clearly all of my work to pocket elements for when she inevitably replaced in is paying off.In post 1696, Elements wrote:In post 425, Bingle wrote:BloopIn post 400, Celebloki wrote: Do we 'Bloop' here?
If this is my legacy I can die happyIn post 50, Bingle wrote:Bloop"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
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