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Gamma Emerald (4):

Alianna, Claptastik, Upwards, Naerys

MargotRosa (3):

Gypyx, Laplacian, FuDuzn

DeltaWave (2):

Hu Tao, Zebedee

Upwards (1):

lucca261

Claptastik (1):

Gamma Emerald

FuDuzn (1):

MargotRosa

Not Voting (1):

DeltaWave

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to send someone on the fast route to the afterlife.

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Dragon Fact #9:

Although dragons rarely associate closely with humans, once in a while they form a deep bond with a human who is truly special for one reason or another, such as being the champion of a god or having a keen intelligence and empathy. Such humans are known as dragonriders, since they are the only ones that dragons would willingly permit to ride them. About 5 in 100,000 people get to ride a dragon every year.

[Claptastik]

If so I would expect re-doubled efforts to case me

Speaking of casing, you have a vote on me, but you're not really pushing me. Why is that? Am I your top scum read? If not, why haven't you moved your vote?

[DeltaWave]

The post above was Zebedee talking about the same topic.

Yabut Zeb is a newb and it's understandable he incorrectly thought it was E-1. Why didn't you see the mistake and correct him? Again, you don't seem to be actually reading the thread.

I'm not sure what you're doing here. It sounds like you're trying to come up with a case even though there's no basis to it. Let's recap:

Post 329:

You

, as in you

Claptastik

, asked Hu Tao if his E-1 quickhammer promise was serious.

Post 330: Zebedee says that he's been busy and will post today.

Post 331: A couple minutes later, Zebedee says "E-1, that's like gonna lim soon? Why so quick? Anyway have to shoot the roundabout needs fixing and Gertrude needs her hay."

I thought Zebedee was referring to the post that

you made right before he did.

My reply in 332 was basically saying "yes, talking about going to E-1 when we're only a couple RL days into D1 is too quick."

The fact that you prompted this line of conversation and then came out with "ohh where did THAT come from Delta????" it came from YOU. You don't get to start a line of conversation and then act surprised when I get involved in it.

FYI, I've been busy with work this past week (and I'm actually working today) and so yeah, I missed the Upwards thing. So what.

[Claptastik]

OK, I misunderstood the reference.

[Claptastik]

Clap is up and down, I think he’s a pocketing liability though, which is not an alignment call at all, just something to point out for his sake.

How is this not an alignment call at all? Since you're pointing it out for my sake, rather than town's sake, you apparently know or think I'm town.

[DeltaWave]

OK, I misunderstood the reference.

That's fine. Overall my town read on you still stands because of everything else. But this goes to show that sometimes you can just misread a thread- which is how this whole line of conversation started, with my mistake on Lucca's post.

VOTE: Gamma, but I would unvote if Gamma got to E-1. I still want to get more information out of Alianna's replacement and to get some more activity in general going from people who are lower in the post counts. I'd also like Zeb to explain his vote, which seemed to come out of nowhere, and which made me think some things that I'll share after he explains.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m questioning that myself too; feel like he should be doing something more here regarding me given a game just wrapped that we were both in

In that game you were in a hydra and let the other head carry the slot, then you dropped out. I don't see where I'm going to learn much if anything about your solo play from that game. This is a very weak charge.

Okay

[Gamma Emerald]

If so I would expect re-doubled efforts to case me

Speaking of casing, you have a vote on me, but you're not really pushing me. Why is that? Am I your top scum read? If not, why haven't you moved your vote?

It’s kinda just been there
UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

Clap is up and down, I think he’s a pocketing liability though, which is not an alignment call at all, just something to point out for his sake.

How is this not an alignment call at all? Since you're pointing it out for my sake, rather than town's sake, you apparently know or think I'm town.

I think your mindset is one that risks pocketing if town, but that doesn’t make you town by itself. Pointing it out for your sake is since I don’t have a strong feeling that anyone in particular is pocketing you yet, so I am just giving you the warning directly.

[Gamma Emerald]

I actually like how Zeb engaged with me so this better be good, Delta

[Hu Tao]

OK, I misunderstood the reference.

That's fine. Overall my town read on you still stands because of everything else. But this goes to show that sometimes you can just misread a thread- which is how this whole line of conversation started, with my mistake on Lucca's post.

VOTE: Gamma,

but I would unvote if Gamma got to E-1

. I still want to get more information out of Alianna's replacement and to get some more activity in general going from people who are lower in the post counts. I'd also like Zeb to explain his vote, which seemed to come out of nowhere, and which made me think some things that I'll share after he explains.

Let's vote out delta please

[Hu Tao]

If gamma gets to e-1 I'm quick hammering

[Upwards]

If gamma gets to e-1 I'm quick hammering

I’m having a Deja vu

I’d like to understand your motivation here. Is it the same play you explained in 347?

Personally I’m still suspicious of Gamma but assuming both you and Delta are not bluffing that means we let RNG decide what happens if Gamma gets to E-1? There’s no way to tell who will randomly be on their phone in that moment should it happen.

[Claptastik]

Why are you afraid to lim a scum read?

[Upwards]

Why are you afraid to lim a scum read?

No. I am wondering if random chance would be a helpful tool to progress the game and I’m inclined to say no since it absolves players of responsibility hence enabling scum to hide behind it by making everything more unclear.

What’s your stance on this though?

[Gamma Emerald]

If gamma gets to e-1 I'm quick hammering

I have a question for you: what do you think this is going to accomplish?

[Upwards]

Why are you afraid to lim a scum read?

No. I am wondering if random chance would be a helpful tool to progress the game and I’m inclined to say no since it absolves players of responsibility hence enabling scum to hide behind it by making everything more unclear.

What’s your stance on this though?

Thinking about it it becomes even more complex since there’s no way to know if it was real RNG. Either side could just delay doing their part while being perfectly aware of E-1 to see if the other side acts eventually. And then claim RNG anyways. Just looks like a mess to me.

But an interesting mess at least.

[FuDuzn]

I am disliking many of Clap's takes as of late, but what do you think the motivation is behind them?

I can't really figure him out.

What don't you like? Why not ask me about it?

My main take of late is that Gamma is scummy. She said it's easy to call her out as scummy, so she understands that she's playing in an apparently scummy manner.

So, what's wrong with me pushing Gamma?

Nothing wrong at all, did you not read my earlier response to your post asking why I ask others their opinions?

OK, I misunderstood the reference.

That's fine. Overall my town read on you still stands because of everything else. But this goes to show that sometimes you can just misread a thread- which is how this whole line of conversation started, with my mistake on Lucca's post.

VOTE: Gamma,

but I would unvote if Gamma got to E-1

. I still want to get more information out of Alianna's replacement and to get some more activity in general going from people who are lower in the post counts. I'd also like Zeb to explain his vote, which seemed to come out of nowhere, and which made me think some things that I'll share after he explains.

Let's vote out delta please

Ya that was bad, voting can be used for pressure and such, but you also should be under the assumption that your vote may lead to that person's lim as well.

And while not a fan of a quick hammer, I understand Hu's sentiment here I think.

[Claptastik]

No. I am wondering if random chance would be a helpful tool to progress the game and I’m inclined to say no since it absolves players of responsibility hence enabling scum to hide behind it by making everything more unclear.

What’s your stance on this though?

You have it exactly backwards. With a lim now, people ARE responsible for their votes. There's no random chance involved.

When you let the game go down to the deadline, that's when people can say

Well I'm not really sure about this but we need a flip

and duck responsibility.

[Claptastik]

If gamma gets to e-1 I'm quick hammering

I have a question for you: what do you think this is going to accomplish?

Pretty sure it would accomplish your elimination.

[Claptastik]

I think your mindset is one that risks pocketing if town, but that doesn’t make you town by itself. Pointing it out for your sake is since I don’t have a strong feeling that anyone in particular is pocketing you yet, so I am just giving you the warning directly.

Wow, thanks for being so caring!

[DeltaWave]

OK, I misunderstood the reference.

That's fine. Overall my town read on you still stands because of everything else. But this goes to show that sometimes you can just misread a thread- which is how this whole line of conversation started, with my mistake on Lucca's post.

VOTE: Gamma,

but I would unvote if Gamma got to E-1

. I still want to get more information out of Alianna's replacement and to get some more activity in general going from people who are lower in the post counts. I'd also like Zeb to explain his vote, which seemed to come out of nowhere, and which made me think some things that I'll share after he explains.

Let's vote out delta please

How often do I get mentioned in the mafia PT?

[Claptastik]

If so I would expect re-doubled efforts to case me

Speaking of casing, you have a vote on me, but you're not really pushing me. Why is that? Am I your top scum read? If not, why haven't you moved your vote?

It’s kinda just been there
UNVOTE:

So you don't have a scum read that you want to vote, or even just someone you want to pressure for info.

[Naerys]

Havent felt well today, sorry. I will catch up tmorrow

[Gamma Emerald]

If gamma gets to e-1 I'm quick hammering

I have a question for you: what do you think this is going to accomplish?

Pretty sure it would accomplish your elimination.