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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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I finally overtook Black's post count, holy shit how much did they post-
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If there was no kill day 1 and Dave was jailed day 1 doesn't that mean he could have been making the night kill or noIn post 2523, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I still don't subscribe to the one wolf mentality but if it's true it would make elements, myself, gypyx and kage all confirmed non-town based on N1 actions and then there's dave cleared by the vig stuff leaving only Thom/Enchant/Hu Tao and it isn't you idtIn post 2521, Hu Tao wrote: So we need to find people who didn't action n1. I get it now.-
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I think Dave should be jailed again by elements tonight-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Sure, but again if he were wolf he wouldn't have claimed having the vig which is almost immediately confirmable + if it's not true just dooms himIn post 2552, Hu Tao wrote: If there was no kill day 1 and Dave was jailed day 1 doesn't that mean he could have been making the night kill or no-
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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Did he ever say what kind of vig it was?-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Not explicitly but I feel it's obviousIn post 2555, Hu Tao wrote: Did he ever say what kind of vig it was?-
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Which do you think-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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"Town really needs me to town-read them" paraphrased, it's the vig/hider almost certainlyIn post 2557, Hu Tao wrote: Which do you think-
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Hmm. I think it's best to jail them then no?-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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I kinda overlooked that interaction-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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If dave gets blocked and we're wrong on whatever elim we choose today, we're gonna end up eliminating the person dave would shoot anyway which is yet another "locked elim" which hurts the thread health. I can see the benefit in both blocking dave, and also blocking someone else to avoid them giving more killing inventions out or doing the maul if Thom's theory is wrong. Which gives us the most benefits? I'm not sure, I'll have to think about that more-
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Did elements full claim?-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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I don't think so-
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Elements please claim. Can you do more jail keeps?-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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If I humour not playing conservatively, (and p-edit, if elements can even act) I mean we can funnel actions to sort the entire 4+ player PoE in one cycle. An example world that I'm just coming up with off the top of my head is to:
1. Lim Enchant
2. Dave kills Kage
3. Elements blocks Thom
4. Gypyx / JV gives each other an invention.
5. Hu Tao vibes (or uses the invention I gave)
With this
- Enchant gets sorted
- Kage gets sorted
- Thom gets sorted
- Gypyx / JV solve whether it's a 2 or 3p wolf team.
- If it's a 3p wolf team and we flip a wolf today, Hu Tao gets sorted through Thom's inversion. Otherwise the same as below
- If it's a 2p wolf team, the unsorted resides in { Hu Tao, JV, Gypyx } in which we can resolve manually.-
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I'm fine with thisIn post 2566, JacksonVirgo wrote: If I humour not playing conservatively, (and p-edit, if elements can even act) I mean we can funnel actions to sort the entire 4+ player PoE in one cycle. An example world that I'm just coming up with off the top of my head is to:
1. Lim Enchant
2. Dave kills Kage
3. Elements blocks Thom
4. Gypyx / JV gives each other an invention.
5. Hu Tao vibes (or uses the invention I gave)
With this
- Enchant gets sorted
- Kage gets sorted
- Thom gets sorted
- Gypyx / JV solve whether it's a 2 or 3p wolf team.
- If it's a 3p wolf team and we flip a wolf today, Hu Tao gets sorted through Thom's inversion. Otherwise the same as below
- If it's a 2p wolf team, the unsorted resides in { Hu Tao, JV, Gypyx } in which we can resolve manually.-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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If we're unlucky and all kills flip green, we'd be in a 2v3 or a 1v4 which are not horrid odds at all.-
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2-shot simple compulsive combined jailkeep vanilla copIn post 2565, Hu Tao wrote: Elements please claim. Can you do more jail keeps?
dave N1, you N2I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Jackson, you're not even absorbing the argument on why it was a 2-person wolf team. You didn't bother even including the world that I believe we're in as apossibility. You're jumping to weird conclusions like "maybe Maul is actually not ever usable because scum are compulsively doing other things" rather than accept the much more viable position that the n1 kill was simply blocked and n2 the remaining wolf was forced to vend the vig to dave rather than outright kill. It makes evenmoresense now that we know dave was the JK target for n1, so he was almost certainly protected there and so they tried again with the n2 vig invention.-
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This has just made the 2 player red team make so much more sense to meIn post 2570, Duelist Kage wrote: Jackson, you're not even absorbing the argument on why it was a 2-person wolf team. You didn't bother even including the world that I believe we're in as apossibility. You're jumping to weird conclusions like "maybe Maul is actually not ever usable because scum are compulsively doing other things" rather than accept the much more viable position that the. It makes evenn1 kill was simply blocked and n2 the remaining wolf was forced to vend the vig to dave rather than outright killmoresense now that we know dave was the JK target for n1, so he was almost certainly protected there and so they tried again with the n2 vig invention.I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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N1 dave kill makes very little sense, like incredibly little sense.
Dave doing the killing and getting blocked makes even less sense.
Scum sacrificing a night kill to give them undue risk with a vig vend makes no sense to me-
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Elements she/herBloopshe/her
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this game kinda feels a bit like Cook's kitchen sink
not role wise but activity wise
it's kinda slow, but it feels more "town have a good grasp of what's going on" slow and not a "wolves are happy with the status quo" slowI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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coolioIn post 2566, JacksonVirgo wrote: If I humour not playing conservatively, (and p-edit, if elements can even act) I mean we can funnel actions to sort the entire 4+ player PoE in one cycle. An example world that I'm just coming up with off the top of my head is to:
1. Lim Enchant
2. Dave kills Kage
3. Elements blocks Thom
4. Gypyx / JV gives each other an invention.
5. Hu Tao vibes (or uses the invention I gave)
With this
- Enchant gets sorted
- Kage gets sorted
- Thom gets sorted
- Gypyx / JV solve whether it's a 2 or 3p wolf team.
- If it's a 3p wolf team and we flip a wolf today, Hu Tao gets sorted through Thom's inversion. Otherwise the same as below
- If it's a 2p wolf team, the unsorted resides in { Hu Tao, JV, Gypyx } in which we can resolve manually.White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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