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[Hu Tao]

TLDR:

Super sus: ProjectRy, Doctor Drew
Slightly sus: Psyche, OutWorldEr, Hu Tao
Slightly townie: Dannflor, Jacob24, DeltaWave
Very townie: Black, Luca Blight, me
no idea: Gypyx, iavh

there you go lots of juicy content for ya.

My list (for those who care):
Super sus: ketchup, Dannflor
Slightly sus: iavh, ProjectRy, OutWorldEr, DeltaWave
Slightly townie: Black, Gypyx, Psyche
Very townie: Jacob24, Hu Tao, Drew, Luca

Why am I very townie?

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: ProjEctRy

Stay the course of Dann. He's scum

[Hu Tao]

Dann is good at wiggling out of bad situations, but bug was scummy from their first post. Also with the meta involved.

[Black]

In the meantime, could you explain your change of heart regarding Jacob recently?

My initial read on Jacob was newscum and I still think that's possible but some of his posts and interactions with Dann's slot feel a little...bold I guess is the best way to put it. I think his readslist in 371 feels ok. I'll admit my read on him may be impacted by me trying to consider Dann as town since that kinda nullifies my partner theory

[Black]

VOTE: ProjEctRy

Stay the course of Dann. He's scum

Eh. Maybe. I'm not getting much solving energy from Project. That energy is kinda oozing out of Dann's pores

[Black]

Dann is good at wiggling out of bad situations,

but bug was scummy from their first post

. Also with the meta involved.

I'm having a hard time believing you actually believe this. What is so scummy about bug's posts outside of Luca's meta case?

[Luca Blight]

Dann is good at wiggling out of bad situations,

but bug was scummy from their first post

. Also with the meta involved.

I'm having a hard time believing you actually believe this. What is so scummy about bug's posts outside of Luca's meta case?

I didn't just make a 'meta case' - I explained why Bugs' posts were scummy in 145.

[Luca Blight]

Sometimes I wonder if people actually bother to read half of what I write.

I guess I'm feeling a little better about Black anyway. I have some new ideas but need to see from content from a few first.

[Black]

Dann is good at wiggling out of bad situations,

but bug was scummy from their first post

. Also with the meta involved.

I'm having a hard time believing you actually believe this. What is so scummy about bug's posts outside of Luca's meta case?

I didn't just make a 'meta case' - I explained why Bugs' posts were scummy in 145.

I would rather hear what posts Hu Tao thinks is scummy

[Black]

Sometimes I wonder if people actually bother to read half of what I write.

I saw that post. I just think there's a chance you're plagued by confbias

[Luca Blight]

Dann is good at wiggling out of bad situations,

but bug was scummy from their first post

. Also with the meta involved.

I'm having a hard time believing you actually believe this. What is so scummy about bug's posts outside of Luca's meta case?

I didn't just make a 'meta case' - I explained why Bugs' posts were scummy in 145.

I would rather hear what posts Hu Tao thinks is scummy

Ok. It's just a little grating when people keep referring to it (and even dismissing it) as a 'meta case' when I've made plenty of other points as well.

[Luca Blight]

Sometimes I wonder if people actually bother to read half of what I write.

I saw that post. I just think there's a chance you're plagued by confbias

So do you not agree with anything I wrote in that post?

[Hu Tao]

Dann is good at wiggling out of bad situations,

but bug was scummy from their first post

. Also with the meta involved.

I'm having a hard time believing you actually believe this. What is so scummy about bug's posts outside of Luca's meta case?

@mod you claim this is a normal simple but multitasking is not a simple role modifier. Are all other mechanics in the game simple?

Why not ask this during role pm phase? Seems fake

First post was scripted scum

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: ProjEctRy

Stay the course of Dann. He's scum

Eh. Maybe. I'm not getting much solving energy from Project. That energy is kinda oozing out of Dann's pores

What about Delta?

[Luca Blight]

Or Gypyx, for that matter.

[Black]

Sometimes I wonder if people actually bother to read half of what I write.

I saw that post. I just think there's a chance you're plagued by confbias

So do you not agree with anything I wrote in that post?

Not particularly. I can go over why in more detail later when I get to my PC

[Luca Blight]

Sometimes I wonder if people actually bother to read half of what I write.

I saw that post. I just think there's a chance you're plagued by confbias

So do you not agree with anything I wrote in that post?

Not particularly. I can go over why in more detail later when I get to my PC

Ok, that would be nice.

[Black]

Dann is good at wiggling out of bad situations,

but bug was scummy from their first post

. Also with the meta involved.

I'm having a hard time believing you actually believe this. What is so scummy about bug's posts outside of Luca's meta case?

@mod you claim this is a normal simple but multitasking is not a simple role modifier. Are all other mechanics in the game simple?

Why not ask this during role pm phase? Seems fake

First post was scripted scum

I'm not seeing it. Why would he not just ask this in the scum PT? I think there are much better ways to seem busy than asking the mod a question like this

Are there other posts of his you think are scummy?

[Black]

VOTE: ProjEctRy

Stay the course of Dann. He's scum

Eh. Maybe. I'm not getting much solving energy from Project. That energy is kinda oozing out of Dann's pores

What about Delta?

Or Gypyx, for that matter.

I'm not townreading these slots. I'll explain why I voted for Project in more detail in due time. And this has nothing to do with being at a PC, I'd just rather wait a bit before explaining it

[Luca Blight]

I was going to hold this back to see how things develop - but I'm about to go to bed soon so here it goes: I actually think Outworld is scum alongside Dann. The sudden flip and hard push on Ketchup upon Dann's replace-in pinged me very hard indeed.

The other scum I would say is most likely among the quiet ones, perhaps Delta if I were to guess. I'm currently townreading Ketchup.

[OutWorldER]

VOTE: ketchup

i think this is a better vote by far right now

OutWorld, you've seen me catch Bugs first-hand in such a manner in the game I linked earlier, and you've been suspicious of that slot as well since the beginning of the game. Let's eliminate Dann today and ketchup's alignment will become clearer as a result.

Ehh...again, like I said, the way ketchup is playing around the Dann lim feels less like he townreads him and more that he's simply informed Dann is town. Limming ketchup here is smarter because of that, at least how I see it.

And frankly, after being able to sleep on it, I just don't think the case is all that you've cracked it up to be. Bugspray was independently scummy in this game, I agree with that, but I also agree with Dann's 437 in that they also just didn't really get a chance to play the game. Dann's play so far has been a lot townier and I feel like letting him cook for a bit longer.

pedit:bruh

[OutWorldER]

"Sudden flip"? I've been suspicious of ketchup pretty much since the game started, and started pushing him when new evidence suggested that the other scumread I was pushing (bugs/Dann) could've been wrong.

[Luca Blight]

"Sudden flip"? I've been suspicious of ketchup pretty much since the game started, and started pushing him when new evidence suggested that the other scumread I was pushing (bugs/Dann) could've been wrong.

Sudden change in energy and direction, shall we say. Yes, you've been suspicious of both Bugs and Ketchup since early on, and, from my perspective, it feels like you've been itching to get off the Bugs wagon for a while now (for no good reason), and when a more capable partner entered the fray you positively leapt at the opportunity. I don't get the sense you were ever really committed to your Bugs vote.

[Luca Blight]

Black if you're not feeling the bug wagon will you vote ketchup with me?

This, if Dann flips red, looks terrible given the timing - Bugs had four votes, five if you include me.

[Luca Blight]

Maybe I'm delaying the inevitable, but if Dann flips town then at least I know I wasn't part of it.

I don't think scum ever says this out loud

But why would Town say it? There's a difference between "I think Dann is town so I'm not voting him" or "I think there's a better vote than Dann here" and what ketchup is actually saying in that post, which is entirely focused on his own image.

I also think

far

too much is being made of Ketchup's 323.

I feel Ketchup has had a lot of townie content which OutWorld ignores, and he pounces on this comment by ketchup which, as others have acknowledged, actually makes more sense coming from a townie not trying to appear 'good' than from scum.