Open 902: Frienemies Blitz | Postgame

[davesaz]

It would take me more than 15 minutes to catch up.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

Is this rvs or serious

A mix of RVS+reaction to spam which I think is even more negative in a blitz game than it is in regular.

[davesaz]

Maybe I need to change my practices for blitz but I'm nearly in prod range and there's like nothing I would want to comment on in a normal game lol.

Mainly for blitz it's changing your pov to "4 days from deadline we're in trouble if wagons aren't up to 1/2 the lim number".

[Dannflor]

i don't feel Python cares about actually sorting me

You're not gonna get very in depth reads from us cause the deadline doesn't allow for it, we're very much playing this game in a "see something, shoot something" kinda manner

that isn't the issue

the issue is the kind of interaction i got

im not looking for an in depth read im bothered because you got defensive and then slotted me as scum without really trying to interact with me further despite clearly being very active and trying to get interactions in with people

[Save The Dragons]

It would take me more than 15 minutes to catch up.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

Is this rvs or serious

A mix of RVS+reaction to spam which I think is even more negative in a blitz game than it is in regular.

this is AI?

[Dannflor]

i think black and gob are both town

vaguely like STD

i kinda like naerys' defense regardless of whether it is factually true or not

Why is gob town

uh i think he's going against the grain (which is not unusual) but it's not in the usual inflammatory/performative way that i usually see from scum!gob

he seems to be trying to figure things out and work with people

[davesaz]

It would take me more than 15 minutes to catch up.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

Is this rvs or serious

A mix of RVS+reaction to spam which I think is even more negative in a blitz game than it is in regular.

this is AI?

Being a negative thing doesn't necessarily mean it's an AI thing.
I do think that some scum spampost to hide among the chaff. I don't know for this game.

[Ausuka]

I think if you want to actually talk about way too strong/defensive reactions early in the game, this one from Python is actually scummy

I don't generally care about defensiveness and don't really see python's reaction as scummy either.

If naerys had called it a "bad push" or something on page 2 I wouldn't care at all

The issue to me is that "discrediting" is a more complex idea where I don't really think the gamestate had developed enough for that to be a natural thought process.

[gob]

I think town!gob would be way more wary of me after our last game together. Instead he's just ignoring me. He knows I'm town

third is such a conceited take lol

[Ranger]

{usesPyrhon}
{Naerys}
{light_ganski, gob}
{Black}
{Dannflor}

P1.

VOTE: Dannflor

[Ausuka]

Tbone can you clarify your python read

[gob]

python it really looks like you're walking back what you said to me

Maybe we're not explaining it right:

Normal game:
-100 -- Lockmaf
-50 -- Maf
0 -- Null
50 -- Town
100 -- Locktown

This game:
-25 -- Lockmaf
-10 -- Maf
0 -- Null
10 -- Town
25 -- Locktown

yeesh this is a bad post

VOTE: usesPython

[Dannflor]

{usesPyrhon}
{Naerys}
{light_ganski, gob}
{Black}
{Dannflor}

P1.

VOTE: Dannflor

incorrect, stop, get off me

[gob]

or is that within her scum range?

I haven't seen her recently enough to know. In fact not sure if I've seen her before.

So a null read, yes?

more like town lean, though very preliminary

cool thanks for clarifying

for the record i was trying to see if light galanski is partners with davesaz. that was my whole play and now its done.
light im null on same with davesaz, which is good cause i felt lightz vote on dave could be early wolf distancing

[light_ganski]

VOTE: ranger

This feels like a really strange vote. 1) ranger's not in your solve and 2) ranger isn't here yet so why not put pressure on an actual read

[Dannflor]

I think if you want to actually talk about way too strong/defensive reactions early in the game, this one from Python is actually scummy

I don't generally care about defensiveness and don't really see python's reaction as scummy either.

If naerys had called it a "bad push" or something on page 2 I wouldn't care at all

The issue to me is that "discrediting" is a more complex idea where I don't really think the gamestate had developed enough for that to be a natural thought process.

it's not defensiveness by itself. a pretty general scum tell that I've had a lot of success using is outsized emotional reactions when the prompt doesn't match up. it doesn't really matter if it's defensiveness or sadness or anger, or what have you. the fact is i don't think my push matches up with python's reaction, which i think is unnatural

re: naerys

I would agree with you normally but I think later posts clarify that is basically what naerys was saying

I think naerys just uses awkward wording sometimes

[light_ganski]

P'edit ranger just arrived ofc

[Ranger]

{UsesPython, Naerys}
{Ausuka}
{Save the Dragons}
{light_ganski}
{Cook}
{gob}
{Black, Dannflor}

P2.

[Naerys]

I think naerys just uses awkward wording sometimes

Downside of not being native speaker

[Dannflor]

I think naerys just uses awkward wording sometimes

Downside of not being native speaker

yeah i was gonna say this but didn't know for sure

[Dannflor]

like i don't think the complex thought process you are attributing to the word choice was actually supposed to be there, ausuka

[usesPython]

I think if you want to actually talk about way too strong/defensive reactions early in the game, this one from Python is actually scummy

I don't generally care about defensiveness and don't really see python's reaction as scummy either.

If naerys had called it a "bad push" or something on page 2 I wouldn't care at all

The issue to me is that "discrediting" is a more complex idea where I don't really think the gamestate had developed enough for that to be a natural thought process.

it's not defensiveness by itself. a pretty general scum tell that I've had a lot of success using is outsized emotional reactions when the prompt doesn't match up. it doesn't really matter if it's defensiveness or sadness or anger, or what have you. the fact is i don't think my push matches up with python's reaction, which i think is unnatural

I think you're misreading of us comes down mostly to

python it really looks like you're walking back what you said to me

Maybe we're not explaining it right:

Normal game:
-100 -- Lockmaf
-50 -- Maf
0 -- Null
50 -- Town
100 -- Locktown

This game:
-25 -- Lockmaf
-10 -- Maf
0 -- Null
10 -- Town
25 -- Locktown

in this case which is where the dissonance is coming from. You're reading us calling you maf as a -50 instead of a -10

[Ranger]

feels like they want to be seen like they are doing something

Coincidentally, that’s my take on you.

I recall last time I thought this, I was right.

[light_ganski]

I very strongly dislike 74

I think if you want to actually talk about way too strong/defensive reactions early in the game, this one from Python is actually scummy

it has the quality of an over defensive reaction while very intentionally trying to seem like they optically don't care

hence the ":shrug:" despite it definitely bothering them given the content of the post and them later slotting me as a "no-no zone read"

I agree with this

[Dannflor]

pretty general scum tell that I've had a lot of success using is outsized emotional reactions when the prompt doesn't match up. it doesn't really matter if it's defensiveness or sadness or anger, or what have you. the fact is i don't think my push matches up with python's reaction, which i think is unnatural

also another element to it is python also leaning into trying to look unbothered by my read on them? which i would think if town and having a naturally defensive reaction would not feel the need to do

[Dannflor]

feels like they want to be seen like they are doing something

Coincidentally, that’s my take on you.

I recall last time I thought this, I was right.

you are not good at reading me