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Post Post #3575 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:03 pm

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In post 3573, JupiterXV wrote:
In post 3564, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3558, JupiterXV wrote: OMG POOKY HI

hi I'm going to ask you some questions about your thought process throughout Day 8 - pls answer as best you can, if you don't remember just say that. don't make up anything if you can't think of an answer because I have a very keen sense for detecting "made up bullshit" and I recognize even town will make things up if they do not know or remember or feel the need to backwards justify a stance at some point in time.

when you made this post
In post 3381, JupiterXV wrote: i know one of (bella/python) is town but i don't know which one is.
I assume you are talking about Bella/Project.

Why did you rule out OWER as a suspect
yeah, i was talking about bella/project. i don't remember exactly why, but i was going through mechanics at the time. i ruled out OWER as a titus jailkeep (aka doctor slot) for... i don't remember what reason let me check. yeah, i worked through the logic in 3382- OWER claimed VT. roleblocking someone who claims VT doesn't work, since she's not roleblockign anythhing. in order to root out who the doctor was, you needed to figure out who titus roleblocked.
so i came to the assumption that titus didn't roleblock inside the semi-consensus townpool (which she ended up doing with TP), and rather went for people who were in the consensus limpool, me, bella, or project. i know she didn't go for me since i'm not doctor, so it had to be between bella and project, who were most likely to be scum and doctor respectively.
i ended up being wrong in the end, as it was TP, but that was kind of what was going through my head at the moment. then i ended up voting OWER because i wasn't sure who was doc, and OWER was also slip sliding into consensus limpool and could feasibly be mafia due to a) not being roleblocked b) claiming VT.

I don't understand how this means you rule out OWER as a mafia
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Post Post #3576 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:04 pm

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In post 3576, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: I don't understand how this means you rule out OWER as a mafia
i didnt rule him out lol i literally voted him :sob:
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Post Post #3577 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:04 pm

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i just ruled him out as doctor
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Post Post #3578 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:05 pm

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In post 3381, JupiterXV wrote: i know one of (bella/python) is town but i don't know which one is.
i think what i was trying to say with this is one of bella/python is MECHANICALLY CONFIRMED TOWN
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Post Post #3579 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:05 pm

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In post 3579, JupiterXV wrote:
In post 3381, JupiterXV wrote: i know one of (bella/python) is town but i don't know which one is.
i think what i was trying to say with this is one of bella/python is MECHANICALLY CONFIRMED TOWN
ok that makes a lot more sense to me now
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Post Post #3580 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:07 pm

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In post 3580, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3579, JupiterXV wrote:
In post 3381, JupiterXV wrote: i know one of (bella/python) is town but i don't know which one is.
i think what i was trying to say with this is one of bella/python is MECHANICALLY CONFIRMED TOWN
ok that makes a lot more sense to me now
ok cool beans, do you have any more questions
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Post Post #3581 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:09 pm

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In post 3572, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3431, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 3429, JupiterXV wrote: i mean flashwagon me if you want idc VOTE: jupiter
i know sure as hell that if project isnt scum i do NOT wanna go to elo
just vote Project please. I don't feel like no-elimming here, I want to know Project's alignment, not sure TP can be convinced to vote you, and we still have to sort Bella.

I think Project's hedginess around self-hammering also feels scummy still so
I want you to explain this post
i assume you mean the last sentence. At the time there was a limpool of Project/Jupiter/Bella. It was like 30 minutes to deadline. If we no-limmed than Project stuck around to be a distraction in endgame. Elimming him even if he was town narrowed down the limpool. Project made a post saying he'd self-hammer "if the view was collectively held", which read to me as really hedgey (maybe that's the wrong word) because it relied on his definition of "collectively". It's weak and reachy, but I had also been tunneled on Project since D2 at that point
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Post Post #3582 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:10 pm

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In post 3581, JupiterXV wrote:
In post 3580, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3579, JupiterXV wrote:
In post 3381, JupiterXV wrote: i know one of (bella/python) is town but i don't know which one is.
i think what i was trying to say with this is one of bella/python is MECHANICALLY CONFIRMED TOWN
ok that makes a lot more sense to me now
ok cool beans, do you have any more questions
nah we're gucci for now i'll hit you up if I want to ask anything else
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Post Post #3583 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:11 pm

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In post 3571, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3568, OutWorldER wrote: the only question I can really think of is why do you think I callout and discredit my own scumteam on D1 if I'm scum. Dann flipped flop back and forth on that point.
I don't have enough meta knowledge of how you interact with partners to really know whether you discredit your own scumteam.

if there is a sequence of play you believe to be extremely unlikely to come from you as mafia I am happy to look at it in the context of what is going on in the game.
I mean, yeah, I think the entire sequence on page 40 isn't within my scumrange at all. granted I only have two scumgames on this site, but in both I never really went against my partners super heavily like I did there
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Post Post #3584 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:12 pm

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In post 3582, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 3572, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3431, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 3429, JupiterXV wrote: i mean flashwagon me if you want idc VOTE: jupiter
i know sure as hell that if project isnt scum i do NOT wanna go to elo
just vote Project please. I don't feel like no-elimming here, I want to know Project's alignment, not sure TP can be convinced to vote you, and we still have to sort Bella.

I think Project's hedginess around self-hammering also feels scummy still so
I want you to explain this post
i assume you mean the last sentence. At the time there was a limpool of Project/Jupiter/Bella. It was like 30 minutes to deadline. If we no-limmed than Project stuck around to be a distraction in endgame. Elimming him even if he was town narrowed down the limpool. Project made a post saying he'd self-hammer "if the view was collectively held", which read to me as really hedgey (maybe that's the wrong word) because it relied on his definition of "collectively". It's weak and reachy, but I had also been tunneled on Project since D2 at that point
no I mean the first sentence.

"not sure TP can be convinced to vote you"

why would you think TP can't be convinced to vote for Jupiter
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Post Post #3585 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:16 pm

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Like an hour left and post gave me the perception that TP wasn't sold on the jupiter scumcase

in retrospect though it seems like they might've just not understood it though oops
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Post Post #3586 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:17 pm

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ok but like if you think TP is mafia why would TP!Mafia not help you yeet Jupiter but instead prefer to be yeeted himself?
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Post Post #3587 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:18 pm

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like I feel like "Not sure if TP can be convinced to vote for you" is a perspective slip - you are saying actually Town!TP might not want to yeet you because I think its pretty obvious scum!TP would prefer to yeet anyone not named himself because thats literally his win condition
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Post Post #3588 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:19 pm

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wait it's not my first game, I keep forgetting that I played a game here years ago. I'm not a liar I just forgot this time
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Post Post #3589 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:19 pm

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????

ever since AK claimed Doc, even under the impression that AK was fake-claiming (or well, more like hoping he was), I had townread Shiki/TP slot

where did you get the impression I ever thought TP was mafia?
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Post Post #3590 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:20 pm

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TP had been like the most uncontroversial townread ever since that doc claim
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Post Post #3591 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:20 pm

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the way you appeal to Jupiter to vote for TP does not feel like you are town convincing a player to hammer your top scumread. It feels like you
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that vote does not end the game and you are trying to sell Jupiter on doing it because you know he doesn't really want to do it.
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Post Post #3592 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:20 pm

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oh I thought TP was theprojectry rofl I didnt even know who you were talking about
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Post Post #3593 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:21 pm

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for some reason I thought projectry's name was theprojectry and not just projectry oops
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Post Post #3594 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:22 pm

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In post 3592, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: the way you appeal to Jupiter to vote for TP
wait when did this happen
pedit: oh yeah that happened
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Post Post #3595 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:22 pm

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In post 3593, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: oh I thought TP was theprojectry rofl I didnt even know who you were talking about
In post 3594, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: for some reason I thought projectry's name was theprojectry and not just projectry oops
local pooky continues to piss on the poor
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Post Post #3596 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:23 pm

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i still get the vibes from you trying to convince jupiter to hammer that you dont really believe projectry is the game winning elim tho
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Post Post #3597 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:25 pm

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i mean, i'll be honest, at that point I wasn't and I think that comes across from my EOD posting where I was more hoping that I was still right rather than being actually convinced of myself.

but at that point in the deadline I was fully under the impression it was kill project or no elim and Dann and I were both in agreement it was just better to yeet project.
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Post Post #3598 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:27 pm

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what was your thought process between these two posts
In post 853, OutWorldER wrote: VOTE: Kurtapika

E-2

In post 915, OutWorldER wrote: I think I agree that Kurta is probably just a mislim at this point.

I'm fine just continuing to sheep Titus and Dann on T3. My preferred lim for today is Skygazer but to be frank with a little less than 3 days left I don't think I could convince people to get on that wagon.

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Post Post #3599 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:30 pm

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Dann made some posts
In post 887, Dannflor wrote: I'm pretty uneasy about the dead gamestate with no counter wagon

it makes me think kurtapika is either a miselimination or scum is currently hard bussing him
In post 888, Dannflor wrote: I kind of want to go back to T3

I pretty much only moved off of him on the condition that pressure on a V/LA slot wasn't doing anything and eventually he'd come back

but he has not

I don't really want to let him just lurk the day phase out
and I pretty wholeheartedly agreed with them. Titus and Dann were both my top town reads at that point in time so I was fine sheeping them and I thought Dann's logic made sense.

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