Setup wise I have always been 1 in 1 out.In post 3074, Flavor Leaf wrote: i standby there is a group scum in Dan/Drew basically 100% of the time.
their roles put them in a situation where they can just target each other every night and become untouchable bar the unstoppable action, but I always thought that was weird.
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In post 3075, Titus wrote:
Setup wise I have always been 1 in 1 out.In post 3074, Flavor Leaf wrote: i standby there is a group scum in Dan/Drew basically 100% of the time.
their roles put them in a situation where they can just target each other every night and become untouchable bar the unstoppable action, but I always thought that was weird.
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Flavor, what do you think of the odds Maestro was the n1 convert? A new person was coming into the slot and would have no background to be traced.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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as much as i am pondering a flavor leaf scum worldIn post 3073, Titus wrote: It could signal a traitor who he was.
both of the traitors so far were informed of who group scum were it looks likealter of rautherdir
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We have Maestro n1 convert, ? n2 convert and Roden or Theta being the n4 convert, supposing Flavor's information is accurate as of the time he said it.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I more meant the wording of the one-shot ability that we activate during the say was worded in the exact same way, which is why I believed it.In post 3025, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 1396, Thomith wrote:
My one shot ability in my PM is worded the same way so I trust this I think?In post 1395, Roden wrote: I have no WIM in this game so vote me out if you want
I only had one shot and apparently misread my role PM, I assumed "once during the Day" meant I could reveal my stream one time each Day, not once ever in the entire game
I wasn't converted, probably because scum also believed I could reveal my self watch each day, but yeah
For whatever reason though, I could still stream last night since the mod confirmed my self-watch
So you have a self watch? So you can say if you got targeted by something or not?
I don’t think that counts as a targeting ability, that feels passive.thomith could be a court jester
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I want to trust Titus and FL but I'm getting paranoid.thomith could be a court jester
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking. It's a good move to target the slot that has a replacement coming in so they're just a fresh face with a fresh view and no inconsistency with a previous attitude.In post 3078, Titus wrote: Flavor, what do you think of the odds Maestro was the n1 convert? A new person was coming into the slot and would have no background to be traced."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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We can agree on that.In post 3084, Aureal wrote:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking. It's a good move to target the slot that has a replacement coming in so they're just a fresh face with a fresh view and no inconsistency with a previous attitude.In post 3078, Titus wrote: Flavor, what do you think of the odds Maestro was the n1 convert? A new person was coming into the slot and would have no background to be traced.
I also think one of Roden or Theta is culted as they were so in sync but not now. Unless we think specifically my stubborness held them together, one of them is almost certainly culted.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Fair. Everything should be reassessed but we have more data now.In post 3083, Thomith wrote: I want to trust Titus and FL but I'm getting paranoid.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Hmm defends Dan and Drew. There's only a couple slots outside the FG not mentioned and I'm one. But I was beefing with Aureal and Theta at the time.In post 1409, SirCakez wrote: Drew reads pretty town in game and in the pt
I probably want to eliminate Aureal or Bianco today. Maybe Roden or Theta??
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In post 2906, Titus wrote:Real Name Flipped or Announced Identity Listed in my Feeback ArdenMaestro BlairCakez named d2, d3 CameronDakotaDrew Named d3 EmersonDeasVail named d2 FinleyHu Tao GarnetDan d5 result HarlowIraNot Known 15 JuniperTheta d5 results Kiernand5 result LennoxRoden MerrittRadical Rat NovaJacksonVirgo Named D2, D3 Oakley
Let's suppose that I'm right about Roden or Theta being converted n4.
Suppose it's Theta.
Dan and Aureal are both town. Roden's town too. Drew is scum in FG. JV is town due to names unless he swapped, which is highly unlikely.
Dan, Aureal, Titus, Roden, JV, +1 of Thom, FL, Hu
Drew (group), Theta (cult), [2 of T, FL and Hu are convert and scum].
Mechwise, FL doesn't make sense as group scum. We get a realistic 50/50 for the other.
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isnt that the night Dan targeted Maestro? I specifically think Maestro was targeted that night. And what happened Day 2? They all followed Dan on Radical Rat.In post 3078, Titus wrote: Flavor, what do you think of the odds Maestro was the n1 convert? A new person was coming into the slot and would have no background to be traced.
This day sucks because scum are going to do everything they can to protect the group scum member. If it's 4, and scum don't bus, we specifically have to have all 6 town on a group scum to fade them, and that's incredibly difficult. We have to force scum to bus or literally all come together.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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i dont see a world where both Roden and Theta are town here.
Im getting pretty comfortable with Titus Town here, and that means Theta/Dan/Aureal have at most one scum.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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So in a world where Theta is scum, is it Theta/Drew/Hu Tao as scum? Maybe with JV? Hu Tao can only be group scum if scum, same with Aureal.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Theta/Drew or Dan/Roden are the two strongest pairings in my head right now, I think. I still think it's just Dan Group scum. The players revolving around Dan were definitely trying to discredit me and turn the gamestate to a world where I can get misfaded, which I feel is a big sign I was going in the right direction this game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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well if i am town then you need me or a scumperson to vote dan so that might not happen
probably
i need to think about what it means if roden is converted and not group scum hmmalter of rautherdir
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from your perspective if i am town then you need me to vote dan or you need scum to busalter of rautherdir
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Mod went 24+ hours without informing you since he caught the mistake. And I think he posted once in between. I suppose the Mod may have compounded on his hiccup. To confirm: you saw recruitment + 2 individual miscellaneous actions (your own ability not in the count)In post 3068, Theta Alpine wrote:
it uhIn post 3061, ActionDan wrote: Even if the mod made an error usually the mod would tell the affected party (Theta) but that not being the case probably means it is unrelated.
my results on roden did end up being the mod error
they just forgot to tell me the updated result until just a bit ago
More like I don't have the "Only effective against Non-FG players" language, if I had that then I would certainly have wondered why I did when I just doc. Similarly you wouldn't think there would need to be redundant language that said I protect against all threats foreign and domestic. The game may have be quite different otherwise.In post 3071, Aureal wrote: Turning that over in my head... Dan stops conversionsfromFG? The same group that he's been insisting had no scum in it?
I'm gonna have to go back and read all this claim info stuff again aren't I?
Dan and Drew, can you clarify when and why you guys claimed your roles to each other in the FG?
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From memory you were suspicious of RR end of Day 1 and were okay with the RR train early on. Can you bring up some quotes around that time to show otherwise?In post 3077, Flavor Leaf wrote: I also like actively defended NK15 AND Radical, albeit turning on RR when I saw E-1 because his flip helped confirm FG was leading it there. Then it lead to a double Addict phase the next couple days.
I said the same in the FG PT N1 when I crumbed my target (that I had bet a convert would be between Maestro and Drew, leaning Maestro) . D2 I claimed 1) that Maestro was Not converted and 2) had I flipped instead of NK15 people would be much less suspicious of the FG group. 3) that I am limited to targeting FG members and that's who I want to target.In post 3084, Aureal wrote:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking. It's a good move to target the slot that has a replacement coming in so they're just a fresh face with a fresh view and no inconsistency with a previous attitude.In post 3078, Titus wrote: Flavor, what do you think of the odds Maestro was the n1 convert? A new person was coming into the slot and would have no background to be traced.
D3 Drew publicly claimed he was responsible for blocking FL/Theta. After I asked for a FG mass claim; I full claimed, then Drew, then Maestro, then Cakez.I'll give you a moment to let that sink in-
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There is an annoying world where Drew is full rolestopper leaving omitting the roleblocking the target component and my protect was nulled but I still think Hu being N1 convert is most likely. Plus there was definitely a genuine annoyance expressed from Maestro in the PT that I didn't target him N2.I'll give you a moment to let that sink in-
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I don't think either Roden or Theta are groupscum, just n4 converts. Let's start with Roden.
Hu Tao, on day 3, claims an inno on Roden. That would be a very bold move to claim an inno on a partner. Roden hadn't claimed to be Finley until day 2. Also, Gamma is not going to call Roden's ability a cult ability if she checked Finley and got an inno night 1. This would require an unstoppable action assuming Gamma wasn't lying about being ascetic.
Hu Tao's content has also been less than stellar.
Meh, this is possible.
If Roden is the group scum, theta is town. FL is only viable as the n4 convert.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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