Open 901 - Normal Idea Mafia Redux - Postgame

[Jake The Wolfie]

I think one part of the "chugging along" is the lack of consensus.

Why are you ignoring my questions

Are you accusing me of being a wolf here?

[Skygazer]

ugh my brain is still literally incapable of going off of anything but vibe right now

maybe i should just roll with it

[Skygazer]

argo, why is your vibe so scummy to me?

[Black]

I think one part of the "chugging along" is the lack of consensus.

Why are you ignoring my questions

Are you accusing me of being a wolf here?

No

Will you answer my questions now?

[Argonauts]

argo, why is your vibe so scummy to me?

Because it's basically just me here at this point?

-Atalanta

[Jake The Wolfie]

I think one part of the "chugging along" is the lack of consensus.

Why are you ignoring my questions

Are you accusing me of being a wolf here?

No

Will you answer my questions now?

Yes, and I was ignoring it because I wanted to spare your feelings, that of me compromising on you as a wagon.

[JacksonVirgo]

argo, why is your vibe so scummy to me?

Is it them as a whole, or specific heads

[SirCakez]

StD's reaction to this wagon feels townie, like I totally feel his confusion to why he's even being voted bc I've totally been there

[SirCakez]

Just as I told STD I'll get back to you in more depth relatively soon, I'm not liking what they're doing now by any stretch of the imagination. They're seemingly flailing and stressing over something incredibly little (from what I am reading). I'll put more thought into it in a few hours

I don't think this is an accurate take at all

[SirCakez]

StD I want to lean town but I couldn't really point to an exact reason why, ig maybe bc he feels pretty engaged here?

This read confuses me because I've seen scum!StD be engaged and I've seen town!StD be completely lurky. Maybe you have a larger sample size or something

He wasn't really engaged until he got pushed anyway

My meta is often totally wrong so correct me please

That said I still think Skygazer is the way to go today, I feel like scum might be trying to steer us away and I think we should stay the course. Shadowez I guess is a needed flip at some point but we can eliminate him basically anytime, I want to rally the troops to the Sky wagon now

[SirCakez]

i feel like sk probably has to aim for scum tonight to have a shot at winning so probably better for us to try and get scum today actually

So even if you think I'm SK, it would still be a bad idea to eliminate me today based on this logic because I would be shooting to get rid of scum today, and if I'm vig then obviously I'm shooting for scum as well
I'm not seeing the thoughts line up here from Sky

you might not have noticed but i'm not voting for you anymore so i'm not sure where the contradiction is

okay but the page before the post I quoted, you said you were annoyed that the wagon on me disappeared and thought I was open wolfing so I'm still seeing a disconnect even if you aren't actually voting me

[JacksonVirgo]

Just as I told STD I'll get back to you in more depth relatively soon, I'm not liking what they're doing now by any stretch of the imagination. They're seemingly flailing and stressing over something incredibly little (from what I am reading). I'll put more thought into it in a few hours

I don't think this is an accurate take at all

I'll check for myself when I analyse them and shadow

[Argonauts]

argo, why is your vibe so scummy to me?

Because it's basically just me here at this point?

-Atalanta

I am most angry that you called Aureal's vibe more scummy than me

-Asclepius

[Argonauts]

What happened to the skygazer wagon

Gone, reduced to atoms.

And thank the lord for that one

Thanking the lord isn't very metal of you

By why so happy it has poofed and gone away?

-Ascelpius

[JacksonVirgo]

What happened to the skygazer wagon

Gone, reduced to atoms.

And thank the lord for that one

Thanking the lord isn't very metal of you :evil:

By why so happy it has poofed and gone away?

-Ascelpius

I'm trying to sneak into heaven so I can play deathcore there and scare all the angels

[JacksonVirgo]

By why so happy it has poofed and gone away?

Because I think they're Town? Lol?

[JacksonVirgo]

Though now that you're here (your head specifically) can you answer 1429

[Argonauts]

i'm on team lets not vote out skygazer

I am always on Team Skygazer

Unfortunately for you, the team what wants to vote you out

Also, and maybe this is a Drew read(err, Asclepius read), but it feels to me that this wagon kinda stagnating and even people hopping off makes me feel like scum thought the wagon would naturally dissipate.......but lack of activity these past few days have forced the hand of the members of scum to leave the wagon to make sure their buddy is not limmed.

Like, usually an early day wagon doesn't stick, so no need for scum to worry too much.......but this one has stuck, with no real counter wagon.

This obviously is only relevant if Sky is Team Scumbutt, but just was something I was thinking about at work today.

-Asclepius

Just before I say what I wanted to say, you'd need some pretty agreeable people in a hydra now that I've realised it cuz imagine a hydra just voting the people they want out and then refusing to let another head get their vote, who also just votes whenever the heads change it. Crazy

Regarding this post, I wanted to sit on this to see what I thought of it given some time to think (I responded to it initially to acknowledge it). What would be the difference between a stagnant wagon (because scum would hope it drops off) to a stagnant wagon because the Town likes where the gamestate is?

I've seen the argument "stagnant game, scum controlled game" my words that I came up with on the spot but I've never seen it framed in the way you said it here. Can you elaborate on that?

We are a hydra that can't get all 3 heads together at once haha, I kinda like it tbh.

What I mean here though, is that a good amount of the time the first wagon of the day is not the ending wagon, I mean it could end up being the vote but not before other wagons start to happen. So, even with Sky close to a lim scum didn't really need to be proactive to end the wagon initially since the natural ebb and flow of the game would kick in and eventually another wagon would happen......but that wasn't happening since the game was going a bit slow.

Then the std wagon started happening, and Shadow once again gained steam.

There is also the added wrinkle that losing their buddy(scumSky) without having to defend them isn't a terrible play, even if you lose a buddy, since there would be no clear associatives........but now I am starting to ramble a bit lol.

Why do you town read Sky so much anyways?

-Asclepius

[JacksonVirgo]

What I mean here though, is that a good amount of the time the first wagon of the day is not the ending wagon, I mean it could end up being the vote but not before other wagons start to happen. So, even with Sky close to a lim scum didn't really need to be proactive to end the wagon initially since the natural ebb and flow of the game would kick in and eventually another wagon would happen......but that wasn't happening since the game was going a bit slow.

I agree with you about the starting wagon stuff. But that didn't really answer my question, unless I'm just really unable to think properly cuz of my headache. I already explained my read on Sky, not really feeling up to repeating myself but I can find the post for you if you want me to

[Argonauts]

What I mean here though, is that a good amount of the time the first wagon of the day is not the ending wagon, I mean it could end up being the vote but not before other wagons start to happen. So, even with Sky close to a lim scum didn't really need to be proactive to end the wagon initially since the natural ebb and flow of the game would kick in and eventually another wagon would happen......but that wasn't happening since the game was going a bit slow.

I agree with you about the starting wagon stuff. But that didn't really answer my question, unless I'm just really unable to think properly cuz of my headache. I already explained my read on Sky, not really feeling up to repeating myself but I can find the post for you if you want me to

finding the post would be nice tbh.
~o

[JacksonVirgo]

1356

Just skimmed, this might not be the right post

[Skygazer]

i feel like sk probably has to aim for scum tonight to have a shot at winning so probably better for us to try and get scum today actually

So even if you think I'm SK, it would still be a bad idea to eliminate me today based on this logic because I would be shooting to get rid of scum today, and if I'm vig then obviously I'm shooting for scum as well
I'm not seeing the thoughts line up here from Sky

you might not have noticed but i'm not voting for you anymore so i'm not sure where the contradiction is

okay but the page before the post I quoted, you said you were annoyed that the wagon on me disappeared and thought I was open wolfing so I'm still seeing a disconnect even if you aren't actually voting me

i think and post in real time

[Skygazer]

or at the same time might be a better way to put it

[Black]

I think one part of the "chugging along" is the lack of consensus.

Why are you ignoring my questions

Are you accusing me of being a wolf here?

No

Will you answer my questions now?

Yes, and I was ignoring it because I wanted to spare your feelings, that of me compromising on you as a wagon.

It doesn't hurt my feelings that you scumread me. I would like for you to answer my first question though, about your thoughts on players not named Black. And then I want to know what realistic wagon you would compromise on. You're not fading me today

[Black]

I will go back to Sky if no one wants StD or Jackson