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Vivax heMafia Scumhe
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Do you have any clear allegiances with anyone, in your opinion ? You initiated a suspicion arc on DP in a hit-and-run manner.In post 120, SuperfluousNinja wrote:In post 104, Vivax wrote:
You isolated one of DP‘s posts to write about what you didn‘t like about it but it seemed to me you ignored the context in which it originated. Felt like you tried to pick out one of the posts to generate content instead of looking at the interactions as a whole.In post 97, SuperfluousNinja wrote:In post 87, Vivax wrote: VOTE: Dannflor
All things considered, seems like the best vote to me currently.
I´m a bit wary of superflousnjnja´s way of interceding between Dann and DP here, felt like a very safe entrance to make.
I don't really follow this logic. What is safe about taking a side in an ongoing conflict at this stage?
But why should the context matter? It's not like a waffle-y, "oh maybe don't take me so seriously" type of comment is suddenly less scummy just because it fits into something, yeah? The whole point of a tell is that you're able to discern things from it, REGARDLESS of the context. Tells should be things that stand on their own and stick out to you, regardless of what people try to bury it in, yeah?
But yeah, I was curious if you were going to bring this one up, and I see that you did...
Yeah. THIS is just nonsense. Why would an alleged scum version of myself want to make such clear lines in the sand when day 1 was, for me at least, less than an hour old? Like I know yall were talking while I was getting my beauty sleep, but the idea that I was actually trying to choose sides this early is just not logical. The LAST thing any scum ever wants to do, like ever, and much less at the very very beginning of the game, is have any clear allegiance with anyone. So this theory of yours seems like poor theorycrafting IMO.Maybe as a means to endear you to one side of the discussion while appearing active.
I guess what I'm asking for is that you take into consideration more than just that post from him while you have the advantage of being in a bystander position.-
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That said, I don't disagree that DP could be mafia and that maybe you even had a point that I didn't acknowledge as valid. But most likely he's not mafia with Dannflor. That seems like a good division to work onwards from.-
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In post 127, Vivax wrote:Do you have any clear allegiances with anyone, in your opinion ?
I certainly don't think so. The only thing I've done in this game is point that out and converse with you. I don't know if I'm ever going to classify my relationship with anyone in this game as an "allegiance". There will be people I trust more than others, but everyone will be treated with a healthy dose of skepticism as required.
You initiated a suspicion arc on DP in a hit-and-run manner.
Sure, but like, how else am I supposed to do it? It struck me as odd and I commented on it. And I don't think it's fair to describe it as "hit and RUN" either. I welcome any and all discussion of the matter and I didn't plan on running at all. I was, in fact,hopingthat people would talk about it.
I guess what I'm asking for is that you take into consideration more than just that post from him while you have the advantage of being in a bystander position.
This seems needlessly controlling, tbh. Who says that's the only post from him that I've taken into consideration? It's the only one I commented on, sure, but it certainly isn't the only one I've considered.-
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If you want me to talk more about why I am a little sus of DarthPunk, this reaction is part of the reason why.
Outoforder said a thing about they think Dannflor might be trying to cozy up to them. Dannflor then reacted by voting for Outoforder.
Now you can either look at that as a joke, or you can see that Dannflor is unironically just trying to distance himself from Outoforder. One interpretation is that this was meaningless and another is, IMO, totally understandable. Thus, I don't really get why DarthPunk took so much issue with it. It's scummy to take issue with stuff on flimsy evidence, since scum know they're never going to get solid evidence of anything and thus must jump on even the flimsiest of cases and hope it somehow blows up into something legitimate.
Like it's just weird I guess. It didn't strike me as a scummy activity at all so I guess I just don't follow the thought process that might make someone think it was, other than a very simplified "there's a vote with little rationale behind it, go after it", which isn't much of a case so early in the day.-
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In post 82, Dannflor wrote:
i think it can be. there was an MD thread about this awhile back and generally I've found scum are more likely to take things overly seriously than not.In post 80, Luca Blight wrote: Do you think it's scummy that they didn't get your joke?
I am in complete agreement with this sentiment.-
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You made a legitimate point about how scum are more likely to take things seriously.In post 96, Dannflor wrote: UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town
Darth argued with you at length about how random voting stage is rather silly, that each and every vote should be taken seriously. In other words, they made a case for why scum might take things seriously and created a space where their actions seem more understandable. They effectively tried to remove this strategy of yours to suspect people if they take things too seriously, which IMO is a totally valid strategy and your logic is sound, which now helps scum look less suspicious in this game if they overreact to things. Darth dispelled a totally valid point you made about something town could use to help find scum.
Your reaction to this was to forgive Darth and back off. Is that not, like, a bit odd? Aren't you concerned that Darth could be playing you here?-
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what sparked the unvote?In post 110, DarthPunk wrote: Sorry I literally couldn’t post for a bit was getting an SQL error.
I think luca looks really good right now.
VOTE: Unvote
I enjoyed the banter was fun.-
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well, it's clear to me that Darth and I are coming from very different backgrounds and our understanding of how the beginning of a mafia game works is clearly different. I think that in part is responsible for some of the conflict generated between us, so I'm probably being more "forgiving" than I usually would be. I also don't necessarily think that because DP and I read something differently means we are of a different alignment, in fact his reaction made sense to me given the different backgrounds thing I mentionedIn post 132, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Your reaction to this was to forgive Darth and back off. Is that not, like, a bit odd? Aren't you concerned that Darth could be playing you here?
However, as far as the push on me, I find it more odd that he had such a visceral reaction but has since decided to back off and I'm not sure what triggered that change-
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I especially like the conclusion of this post, ninja can be town.In post 132, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
You made a legitimate point about how scum are more likely to take things seriously.In post 96, Dannflor wrote: UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town
Darth argued with you at length about how random voting stage is rather silly, that each and every vote should be taken seriously. In other words, they made a case for why scum might take things seriously and created a space where their actions seem more understandable. They effectively tried to remove this strategy of yours to suspect people if they take things too seriously, which IMO is a totally valid strategy and your logic is sound, which now helps scum look less suspicious in this game if they overreact to things. Darth dispelled a totally valid point you made about something town could use to help find scum.
Your reaction to this was to forgive Darth and back off. Is that not, like, a bit odd? Aren't you concerned that Darth could be playing you here?
Maybe I was wrong in that they can‘t be partnered, some of their attitudes towards each other were over the top but that could also be explained by DP rather siding with me and Dann rather with OOO. Could just be two townies fighting over thread influence too.
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You know what RVS stands for.In post 89, Vivax wrote:
I don´t view myself as above DP, we´re used to doing things differently. I like having him around cause he´s good at keeping my sanity in check, and I just pretend to be his angry chihuahua.In post 85, Dannflor wrote: vivax is there a reason you didn't explain random voting stage to your friend
We´re past RVS now. If RVS was an issue, it´d be an issue for Roden as well. So that´s not the point of discussion we should be having in my opinion.
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yes. quote me up for that as well.In post 83, Dannflor wrote:
you seem to have the idea that voting somewhere equal a hard commitIn post 81, DarthPunk wrote: It’s the start of day one, isn’t this the time of any
To not necessarily hard commit to things?-
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In post 83, Dannflor wrote:
you seem to have the idea that voting somewhere equal a hard commitIn post 81, DarthPunk wrote: It’s the start of day one, isn’t this the time of any
To not necessarily hard commit to things?
are you going to do something in thus game?In post 91, Dannflor wrote: think we'll probably not end up agreeing on that particular point of mafia philosophy-
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this guy is prolly scum.In post 98, Luca Blight wrote:In post 96, Dannflor wrote: UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town
If you did it for a reaction, why not wait for outoforder's reaction?-
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Dannflor is town anyways so..-
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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Curious, i personally got town vibes from lucaIn post 139, outoforder wrote:
this guy is prolly scum.In post 98, Luca Blight wrote:In post 96, Dannflor wrote: UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town
If you did it for a reaction, why not wait for outoforder's reaction?-
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why???In post 135, Vivax wrote:
I especially like the conclusion of this post, ninja can be town.In post 132, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
You made a legitimate point about how scum are more likely to take things seriously.In post 96, Dannflor wrote: UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town
Darth argued with you at length about how random voting stage is rather silly, that each and every vote should be taken seriously. In other words, they made a case for why scum might take things seriously and created a space where their actions seem more understandable. They effectively tried to remove this strategy of yours to suspect people if they take things too seriously, which IMO is a totally valid strategy and your logic is sound, which now helps scum look less suspicious in this game if they overreact to things. Darth dispelled a totally valid point you made about something town could use to help find scum.
Your reaction to this was to forgive Darth and back off. Is that not, like, a bit odd? Aren't you concerned that Darth could be playing you here?
Maybe I was wrong in that they can‘t be partnered, some of their attitudes towards each other were over the top but that could also be explained by DP rather siding with me and Dann rather with OOO. Could just be two townies fighting over thread influence too.
Back to work.
this is so stupid.-
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Vibes, I would say 50% correct. It doesnt sit well with me, the post i mean.In post 135, Vivax wrote:
I especially like the conclusion of this post, ninja can be town.In post 132, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
You made a legitimate point about how scum are more likely to take things seriously.In post 96, Dannflor wrote: UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town
Darth argued with you at length about how random voting stage is rather silly, that each and every vote should be taken seriously. In other words, they made a case for why scum might take things seriously and created a space where their actions seem more understandable. They effectively tried to remove this strategy of yours to suspect people if they take things too seriously, which IMO is a totally valid strategy and your logic is sound, which now helps scum look less suspicious in this game if they overreact to things. Darth dispelled a totally valid point you made about something town could use to help find scum.
Your reaction to this was to forgive Darth and back off. Is that not, like, a bit odd? Aren't you concerned that Darth could be playing you here?
Maybe I was wrong in that they can‘t be partnered, some of their attitudes towards each other were over the top but that could also be explained by DP rather siding with me and Dann rather with OOO. Could just be two townies fighting over thread influence too.
Back to work.-
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Last post was to Naerys,-
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how do i vote?-
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VOTE: Luca Blight-
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lets murder mafia ok?-
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sorry lets sacamaalalaskljksdaidn mafia ok?-
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There is nothing scummy there.In post 130, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
If you want me to talk more about why I am a little sus of DarthPunk, this reaction is part of the reason why.
Outoforder said a thing about they think Dannflor might be trying to cozy up to them. Dannflor then reacted by voting for Outoforder.
Now you can either look at that as a joke, or you can see that Dannflor is unironically just trying to distance himself from Outoforder. One interpretation is that this was meaningless and another is, IMO, totally understandable. Thus, I don't really get why DarthPunk took so much issue with it. It's scummy to take issue with stuff on flimsy evidence, since scum know they're never going to get solid evidence of anything and thus must jump on even the flimsiest of cases and hope it somehow blows up into something legitimate.
Like it's just weird I guess. It didn't strike me as a scummy activity at all so I guess I just don't follow the thought process that might make someone think it was, other than a very simplified "there's a vote with little rationale behind it, go after it", which isn't much of a case so early in the day.
I don't know Dannflor from before, how do you take that?
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