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[DarthPunk]

How do we know the vote counts?

[gob]

its just gob lowercase, not all uppercase BTW

[DarthPunk]

Yeah, I just remember way too many games where gob flipped town basically.

Thats just where I stand at the moment. I would really like the other players to come back and actually participate

Oh ok, I thought it may have been a pressure thing.

nah i dont really do that

Wait, you have played with Gob before?

Do you think that ninja and Roden could be mafia together?

not gob specifically, gob-like players.

Yeah I can see them being mafia together.

But I don' t think that the Roden 'what you mean lurking' moment makes much sense if Roden and Ninja are both Maf.

could be distancing, theres no actual consequence of those two posts

Roden apparently just says stuff for no reason? Like I dont want to believe that he really thinks that playing like this is "good" town play but I also dont know if my standards are too high

Probably he is mafia...

[gob]

How do we know the vote counts?

We wait for the mod to post a VC

[DarthPunk]

its just gob lowercase, not all uppercase BTW

OK sorry.

[DarthPunk]

Basically my case on GOB is that he openly stated he was posting for the sake of posting.

That is mafia 101 scummy. What can I say? I am a simple man, I see a scum claim, I vote.

It's a simple turn of phrase. You and Ninja are reading way too much into that.

I find it weird you choose to vote me over Roden though, trying to save Ninja?

It may be a simple turn of phrase but was it true? If so, why were you posting for the sake of posting?

I am not trying to 'save' anyone. I am trying to get the elim correct. I think Ninja also has a good chance of flipping mafia, but I want to elim the person with the

best

chance of flipping mafia.

[Oatsmaster]

Yeah, I just remember way too many games where gob flipped town basically.

Thats just where I stand at the moment. I would really like the other players to come back and actually participate

Oh ok, I thought it may have been a pressure thing.

nah i dont really do that

Wait, you have played with Gob before?

Do you think that ninja and Roden could be mafia together?

not gob specifically, gob-like players.

Yeah I can see them being mafia together.

But I don' t think that the Roden 'what you mean lurking' moment makes much sense if Roden and Ninja are both Maf.

could be distancing, theres no actual consequence of those two posts

Roden apparently just says stuff for no reason? Like I dont want to believe that he really thinks that playing like this is "good" town play but I also dont know if my standards are too high

Probably he is mafia...

I hope so at this point.
I think it wouldnt be bad strategy to get somewhat close to a hammer and see who comes outta the woodwork

[DarthPunk]

It's kind of awkward in a Instant Majority game to have to go back through the thread and work out the vote counts.

[gob]

Basically my case on GOB is that he openly stated he was posting for the sake of posting.

That is mafia 101 scummy. What can I say? I am a simple man, I see a scum claim, I vote.

It's a simple turn of phrase. You and Ninja are reading way too much into that.

I find it weird you choose to vote me over Roden though, trying to save Ninja?

It may be a simple turn of phrase but was it true? If so, why were you posting for the sake of posting?

I am not trying to 'save' anyone. I am trying to get the elim correct. I think Ninja also has a good chance of flipping mafia, but I want to elim the person with the

best

chance of flipping mafia.

It wasn't really true. I was really just trying to post to 'charge myself up' so to speak, and also move the topic away from whatever was going on at the time since i deemed it not worthwhile.
For me, that is posting for the sake of posting, cause I am posting to 'charge myself up' when in reality I could go 'charge myself up' doing something else IRL, but i instead chose to post in the thread. So from a certain point of view it was a selfish play since it was purely focused on elevating my play. That is why I described it was the terminology I did.

[SuperfluousNinja]

I also don't really buy superfluousninja's read on Luca

or rather it reads like scum trying to pocket a townie. I do think Luca is town, but the way superfluousninja worded her read in 311 feels both way too strong way too early and feels like... idk it is trying to flatter luca more than actually explain to others why he is town?

So you think I made the right read, but the way I presented this allegedly correct read was so perplexing that you're casting your vote for me? This is your case?

[DarthPunk]

Ninja can you post a list of your reads please.

[Oatsmaster]

UNVOTE:

I also don't really buy superfluousninja's read on Luca

or rather it reads like scum trying to pocket a townie. I do think Luca is town, but the way superfluousninja worded her read in 311 feels both way too strong way too early and feels like... idk it is trying to flatter luca more than actually explain to others why he is town?

So you think I made the right read, but the way I presented this allegedly correct read was so perplexing that you're casting your vote for me? This is your case?

Cmon you can’t seriously think that this is all that dann is presenting.
You understand that scum know that someone is town and the way that they do end up making that read in the thread can be artificial right?

[DarthPunk]

Basically my case on GOB is that he openly stated he was posting for the sake of posting.

That is mafia 101 scummy. What can I say? I am a simple man, I see a scum claim, I vote.

It's a simple turn of phrase. You and Ninja are reading way too much into that.

I find it weird you choose to vote me over Roden though, trying to save Ninja?

It may be a simple turn of phrase but was it true? If so, why were you posting for the sake of posting?

I am not trying to 'save' anyone. I am trying to get the elim correct. I think Ninja also has a good chance of flipping mafia, but I want to elim the person with the

best

chance of flipping mafia.

It wasn't really true. I was really just trying to post to 'charge myself up' so to speak, and also move the topic away from whatever was going on at the time since i deemed it not worthwhile.
For me, that is posting for the sake of posting, cause I am posting to 'charge myself up' when in reality I could go 'charge myself up' doing something else IRL, but i instead chose to post in the thread. So from a certain point of view it was a selfish play since it was purely focused on elevating my play. That is why I described it was the terminology I did.

What are your reads gob?

[SuperfluousNinja]

Ninja can you post a list of your reads please.

I'll just copy and paste the notes I keep on my desktop.

TOWN
Luca Blight - active, good take in post 56
Dannflor - very active. Strangely aggressive? but still making good arguments
Oatsmaster - aggressive pushback on Roden, being a jerk, which is kinda townie tell

NULL
Outoforder - active, but acting in odd and suspicious ways, need better explanations
DarthPunk - very active, Post 57 struck me as sus and I commented on it
Vivax - very active, Back and forth with him over DarthPunk comment, but untrustworthy
Naerys - inactive
Hu Tao - inactive

SCUM
Gob - slightly more active but underwhelming, some bizarre play with the case on Vivax
Roden - was inactive, then strangely aggressive after I pushed him for it, defensive / dismissive
Dunnstral - inactive for a long period, pushed back on my activity level post

MalcolmTucker is afk so they could be anything.

[Oatsmaster]

Ninja can you post a list of your reads please.

I'll just copy and paste the notes I keep on my desktop.

TOWN
Luca Blight - active, good take in post 56
Dannflor - very active. Strangely aggressive? but still making good arguments
Oatsmaster - aggressive pushback on Roden, being a jerk, which is kinda townie tell

NULL
Outoforder - active, but acting in odd and suspicious ways, need better explanations
DarthPunk - very active, Post 57 struck me as sus and I commented on it
Vivax - very active, Back and forth with him over DarthPunk comment, but untrustworthy
Naerys - inactive
Hu Tao - inactive

SCUM
Gob - slightly more active but underwhelming, some bizarre play with the case on Vivax
Roden - was inactive, then strangely aggressive after I pushed him for it, defensive / dismissive
Dunnstral - inactive for a long period, pushed back on my activity level post

MalcolmTucker is afk so they could be anything.

what are the good arguments that dannflor has made?

[DarthPunk]

Ninja can you post a list of your reads please.

I'll just copy and paste the notes I keep on my desktop.

TOWN
Luca Blight - active, good take in post 56
Dannflor - very active. Strangely aggressive? but still making good arguments
Oatsmaster - aggressive pushback on Roden, being a jerk, which is kinda townie tell

NULL
Outoforder - active, but acting in odd and suspicious ways, need better explanations
DarthPunk - very active, Post 57 struck me as sus and I commented on it
Vivax - very active, Back and forth with him over DarthPunk comment, but untrustworthy
Naerys - inactive
Hu Tao - inactive

SCUM
Gob - slightly more active but underwhelming, some bizarre play with the case on Vivax
Roden - was inactive, then strangely aggressive after I pushed him for it, defensive / dismissive
Dunnstral - inactive for a long period, pushed back on my activity level post

MalcolmTucker is afk so they could be anything.

Can you extrapolate on these reads a little bit please.

Cause at this point it seems almost arbitrary. Like with Roden aggressiveness makes him scum, but for oats town?

Like you have Vivax as very active and also untrustworthy, but there is basically no logic or reason shared for how you get to your conclusion with vivax. Why do you think he is Untrustworthy?

What about Outoforder's posting is odd and suspicious? what explanations are you unsatisfied with?

[DarthPunk]

I guess I am having issues cause like you are stating some reasons to find a lot of people suspicious, but you aren't really being agentic in trying to pursue those ideas further than like a surface level. Like the fact you have Outoforder as Null, but he had to keep asking you to engage with him in a discourse doesn't really make sense.

The thing about Dannflor's case that struck me as very true about your play is that you seem to be more focused on your image in the thread and 'being right' rather than curious about the alignment of others or proactively pursuing a scum hunting agenda,

[Oatsmaster]

VOTE: SuperfluousNinja
note sure why the unvote gets applied when i hit quote on mobile thats a weird bug

[SuperfluousNinja]

I've had a nightmare of an evening so don't expect anything else from me until tomorrow.

[DarthPunk]

hmmmm.

[Oatsmaster]

hmmmm.

votevotevote

[DarthPunk]

There isn't really a rush with such huge timeframes for each phase though. I'd prefer to wait till she replies to, well, anything.

If she doesn't then I'm down.

[DarthPunk]

I'm more cautious about voting in this setup because its Instant Majority, and I need to consider timeframes. Like probably hammer will be during peak EU_US crossover time while I'm sleeping. So I want to be really comfortable with where I park my vote while I'm away.

[Oatsmaster]

I'm more cautious about voting in this setup because its Instant Majority, and I need to consider timeframes. Like probably hammer will be during peak EU_US crossover time while I'm sleeping. So I want to be really comfortable with where I park my vote while I'm away.

If we time this day out I will lose my mind.

but fair enough

[Vivax]

Just got off work and it's raining napalm and baby kangaroos in here hijole