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[Gypyx]

1.10

Roden (3) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / Dannflor

Luca Blight (2) :

Vivax / outoforder

Dunnstral (1) :

Grackaroni

SuperfluousNinja (1) :

Roden

DarthPunk (1) :

gob

oatsmaster (1) :

Naery

Not Voting (4):

Dunnstral / DarthPunk / oatsmaster / Hu Tao

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

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Spoiler:

Lizzyposting cause i need y'all to get the point that i love her

(meeting someone who tried to kill her 5 minutes ago)

*sees people arguing* oh yeah time to take a picture


anyways you get it (she survives it cause that right she's a GIRLBOSS)

[Roden]

What in my interactions were scummy?

Why so scared Vivax?

I didn't like this since I disagreed that Vivax came off as scared, and continuing to push this later felt scummy.

Spoiler:

hey can people start placing votes down, random or not

it would make it much easier to start getting firm reasons

This is IML. As soon as a majority is reached, the lunch is served. Drumming for quick votes is more mafia indicative than town indicative. We don‘t have enough information.

Consider this a FoS on Dannflor.

now, why isn't this a vote instead of an FoS

I feel like Dann is trying hard to look Town.

I agree that random voting stage is overhyped, and I prefer my votes to have substance behind them.

I dont understand why Dann is trying to tie themselves to me, considering i have no idea who they are. Im not too sure of anything yet, but i find this the towniest post in thread so far.

This seemed like you took Dann's joke seriously, and your response didn't really have anything to do with what Luca said. It felt like you were trying to look like you were adding to a conversation.

UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town

If you did it for a reaction, why not wait for outoforder's reaction?

this guy is prolly scum.

This went unexplained, and I felt that Luca was super townie.

[outoforder]

What were you doing with your "random" vote if not trying to fish an unexpected reaction from Vivax?
Why was Luca super townie with his 2 or so posts? Because other people said so too?

[outoforder]

Like if you voted me in RVS -- and i responded with "why are you voting for me???", how would you react?

[Roden]

I just randomly vote during RVS every game. I've always taken it literally and it would take a couple minutes to check my past games to confirm this.

I've given my reasons for town reading Luca

[Roden]

Like if you voted me in RVS -- and i responded with "why are you voting for me???", how would you react?

"Because it's RVS"

[Roden]

Depending on the context of who I voted, I'd probably have a snarky response if I've played with them before since I'd assume it's a joke at that point

[Vivax]

That earned me a lot of criticism, but in the long run it also told me that nobody would have done the same for you. Just cost me the extra effort, but I wasn‘t pretending, I actually believed it. To find the devil means to play his game first.

Did someone do this? Did they also scumread me because i also thought Roden was town and i have definitely not accused you of that read.

I didn't realize/missed you had a townread or nonscumread on Roden tbh.

Maybe it wasn't explicit but I'd quote this for instance:

I feel like a number of people (and people pretty familiar with Vivax?) have said various things along the lines of Vivax seeming different this game or that he seems scummy or that his reads don't make sense - and I'm wondering why no one actually seems to want to vote him

VOTE: Dannflor

You could say that about more people than just me.
I feel like I want to fight you, so that‘s what I am going to do once I get home.

Get your vote off Roden and case me instead at least we‘ll have some action.

no, i don't think i will

tbh i kinda think you and roden are partnered anyway

In Roden!scum! world, could mean Dann instead of Naerys. Then add Luca and Roden to the mix.
If Roden is town, what does that make Dann? Just more sure on Roden at the time, so NAI for him to react like that. But AI if Roden is mafia imo.

@ Roden

You thought Luca was scum when he doubted your post. Do you think that since that post, he has looked townier or scummier?
Because I'm still wondering why you're not cooperating with me and OoO in this instance. If you're town, it should come easy to you to vote someone you suspected earlier especially when it's not going to be you instead. Stop avoiding this please.

Maybe you don't like to be strongarmed/controlled but even then you should have an equally strong conviction read to replace the option.

[Roden]

If someone genuinely didn't know what RVS was then I'd explain it to them and wouldn't hold that reaction against them, since my vote would look insane otherwise

[Vivax]

Bruh I'm pretty good for playing as a semi-homeless property owner in a country that would be better off being run by the mafia.

[outoforder]

If someone genuinely didn't know what RVS was then I'd explain it to them and wouldn't hold that reaction against them, since my vote would look insane otherwise

Im sorry but you dont really seem to know whta RVS is, or stands for

It's okay, i dont have anything to add to this discussion so you can talk with Vivax.

[Roden]

@ Roden

You thought Luca was scum when he doubted your post. Do you think that since that post, he has looked townier or scummier?
Because I'm still wondering why you're not cooperating with me and OoO in this instance. If you're town, it should come easy to you to vote someone you suspected earlier especially when it's not going to be you instead. Stop avoiding this please.

Maybe you don't like to be strongarmed/controlled but even then you should have an equally strong conviction read to replace the option.

I wasn't serious when I said I scum read Luca

I'm up to page 31 atm so I don't know if Luca suddenly got scummy or not. If there's a case I'll eventually see it and make up my mind then.

[Roden]

If someone genuinely didn't know what RVS was then I'd explain it to them and wouldn't hold that reaction against them, since my vote would look insane otherwise

Im sorry but you dont really seem to know whta RVS is, or stands for

It's okay, i dont have anything to add to this discussion so you can talk with Vivax.

I know what RVS is. I just don't care. I don't like Day 1 in general.

[outoforder]

Vivax do you think Luca and Roden would build that scheme of the stupid read/no-read based on Roden's defensiveness, aggressiveness and whatever, if they were scumbuddies?

[outoforder]

I'm up to page 31 atm so I don't know if Luca suddenly got scummy or not. If there's a case I'll eventually see it and make up my mind then.

Maybe it's better if you stop resoponding and catch up. I think it's better for everyone regardless of your affiliation.

[outoforder]

UNVOTE: Luca

[Roden]

I'm up to page 31 atm so I don't know if Luca suddenly got scummy or not. If there's a case I'll eventually see it and make up my mind then.

Maybe it's better if you stop resoponding and catch up. I think it's better for everyone regardless of your affiliation.

I had to delete a post earlier when you asked me to explain why I scum read you early on where I initially said "sure, I'll stop catching up so I can scum case you with currently invalid info"

[Roden]

The most bothering thing about Dann is that every now and then he pings Dunnstral, but then he goes back to do something completely different. Now i

can see

a townie reason for this, but i admit there is a moderate chance of distancing, because that's some pretty vague shit.

I think this is weird too. I'm not mafia though, this is all on Dann.

Why did you find this weird?

[Vivax]

UNVOTE: Luca

He’s going to be fine if you keep your vote.
L-3 requires three scum hammering in quick succession and so on so it‘s a strong research factor.

But we have started to work together as agreed even over former differences, and I don‘t know why Roden is hesitant even when we two have to be his only allies in his world.

That‘s what we lack. The voting bloc.

For D1 I‘d accept in my voting bloc without necessarily townreading them: OoO, Ninja, Dann, DP, Grack, Oats

Maybe Luca but he‘s the callisto atm. Roden just opposed the chance.

I‘d rather not accept Naerys, Dunn, Hu Tao because of the lukewarm approach. They still prefer to observe over engaging imo and the contributione are a bit sparse.

Even if we have mafia in the bloc it‘s beneficial for the leverage.

[Roden]

Im utterly useless

Future me, does Gob ever actually do anything?

[outoforder]

For D1 I‘d accept in my voting bloc without necessarily townreading them: OoO, Ninja, Dann, DP, Grack, Oats

I am pretty sure there is one mafia there, and unfortunately that is either Grack or DP.

[outoforder]

VOTE: Luca

[Roden]

someone asked me what I think about 562 I think

I think it leans scummy and I wouldn't be surprised if Roden flips scum, but nothing about it like really alarms me.

I reasonably comfortable with Ninja being town so I don't love the vote there. I don't super love the post-hoc explanation about his trajectory on scum reading to town reading me. I am wary of that type of posting being more about wanting to get credit for his Very Real Thought Process rather than just explaining his read.

in short Roden is another wagon I'm probably onboard with

VOTE: roden

I guess this is fine for now in the interests of not pushing a vanity wagon

What changed that made you go from town > null > scum towards me? Nothing major really happened in this time.

[outoforder]

For D1 I‘d accept in my voting bloc without necessarily townreading them: OoO, Ninja, Dann, DP, Grack, Oats

I am pretty sure there is one mafia there, and unfortunately that is either Grack or DP.

Either Grack wants me to scumread you and that's why he didn't comment on the meta post,
or DP is scum for what you said, not trying to take thread control.

It's not bad assessment.

[Roden]

VOTE: oatsmaster
oh and this is scum btw

Future me, does Naerys ever actually do anything?