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[JacksonVirgo]

Why are you solving me anyway ketchup?
Psyche/Gypyx are in the 1v1

[Psyche]

now that i think about it the ower townlock feels more sneaked in than the hu tao stance. but could just be that the read was instrumental for the case against my claim.

[Gypyx]

not much but at least think the "hu tao is very much obvtown right now" line from gypyx in 1663 is sincere
it's also provided w/o a lot of basis, which strengthens this read
have to assume the basis is intended to be in the claim -- with logic that first in a massclaim is an uncomfortable spot to lie about having a PR as extravagant as jailkeeper
in general gypyx seems to take most of the other claims at face value
eg the macho neap claim is taken at face value and used to reason about the validity of my claim (1694/1695) even though gypyx has never expressed a strong tr for ower
both these reads have a similar flavor

Why are you even trying to read me

i'm actually trying to read your reads!

Well i'm curious where this goes since even you don't really seem to know what you're looking for

[Gypyx]

Why are you solving me anyway ketchup?
Psyche/Gypyx are in the 1v1

ooo someone's nervous?

if we manage to solve you as scum with more reliability than my 1v1 you can trust i'm voting your ass

[ketchup777]

I haven't caught up yet, but I'm VT.

ok if you want a quick thoughts

Spoiler: claims

Hu Tao = odd-night jailkeeper
Gypyx=VT
Black= VT
OutWorld= Macho neapolitan, investigated iavh night 1, got VT for me (ketchup) night 2)
Jackson= VT
Psyche = 1-shot watcher, watched Drew and saw Gypyx visit.
Ketchup- VT
Luca- VT

[JacksonVirgo]

I have no need to be nervous, I’m seeing a weird perspective and I’m asking further questions

[ketchup777]

Why are you solving me anyway ketchup?
Psyche/Gypyx are in the 1v1

They sure are, but I’m not going to narrow down my vision while it’s happening. I won’t place votes yet

[Gypyx]

I have no need to be nervous, I’m seeing a weird perspective and I’m asking further questions

would town!you really be uncomfortable with being scrutinized ? the more scum / town we find the better things are and yet you seem opposed to anyone solving between me and psyche

[Psyche]

not much but at least think the "hu tao is very much obvtown right now" line from gypyx in 1663 is sincere
it's also provided w/o a lot of basis, which strengthens this read
have to assume the basis is intended to be in the claim -- with logic that first in a massclaim is an uncomfortable spot to lie about having a PR as extravagant as jailkeeper
in general gypyx seems to take most of the other claims at face value
eg the macho neap claim is taken at face value and used to reason about the validity of my claim (1694/1695) even though gypyx has never expressed a strong tr for ower
both these reads have a similar flavor

Why are you even trying to read me

i'm actually trying to read your reads!

Well i'm curious where this goes since even you don't really seem to know what you're looking for

plan is to bumble through and then reflect on gaps and mistakes later

[Gypyx]

oooo can't wait, you're not finding a lot for now it seems ;(

wonder how long that's gonna take you

[ketchup777]

Votecount 3.3

Votecount 3.3

Gypyx (2):

Psyche, JacksonVirgo

Psyche (1):

Gypyx

Not Voting (5):

Hu Tao, Luca Blight, ketchup777, Black, OutWorldER

With 8 Alive, it takes 5 to secure an execution, and 4 to secure a no execution.

Day Three ends in (expired on 2024-02-19 03:52:11)

Mod Notes

None

Interlude: aren't Psyche and Jackson also in a 1v1? assuming scum would be hammering if both were town

[ketchup777]

Perhaps not as vivid a 1v1, and one where the chance of both being scum is higher, but a 1v1 nonetheless

[Gypyx]

well if i was scum it would be kinda hard for them to hammer

so really it's one in me / psyche / jackson which we already know since there's one in me / psyche

[ketchup777]

So you really got no other solve in the off chance you're wrong? I'm not asking you to believe I am town, I'm asking you to consider a world where you're wrong

and i'm telling you there's basically no world

In that case I'm treating this as you trying not to spew after getting red-checked
VOTE: Gypyx

this vote feels super risky for a townie, even one confident in their reads, to put someone to E-3 before Luca has even claimed

[ketchup777]

well if i was scum it would be kinda hard for them to hammer

so really it's one in me / psyche / jackson which we already know since there's one in me / psyche

I don't understand your first point.

It could be two of those as well

[ketchup777]

well if i was scum it would be kinda hard for them to hammer

so really it's one in me / psyche / jackson which we already know since there's one in me / psyche

I don't understand your first point.

It could be two of those as well

Never mind I understand (:

[Gypyx]

well if i was scum it would be kinda hard for them to hammer

so really it's one in me / psyche / jackson which we already know since there's one in me / psyche

I don't understand your first point.

It could be two of those as well

your point is "scum would've hammered by now" right? well, that's under the assumptation that i'm town getting wagoned, and while i appreciate the flattery, it's only an assumption

yes it could be two, what i mean more is like, it's at least one of us 3 and as such doesn't give much info

pedit : bruh

[Gypyx]

So you really got no other solve in the off chance you're wrong? I'm not asking you to believe I am town, I'm asking you to consider a world where you're wrong

and i'm telling you there's basically no world

In that case I'm treating this as you trying not to spew after getting red-checked
VOTE: Gypyx

this vote feels super risky for a townie, even one confident in their reads, to put someone to E-3 before Luca has even claimed

Big part of why i'm saying jackson is pretty much openwolfing right now, he's throwing all caution to the wind just to nail my coffin as hard as he can

[ketchup777]

well if i was scum it would be kinda hard for them to hammer

so really it's one in me / psyche / jackson which we already know since there's one in me / psyche

I don't understand your first point.

It could be two of those as well

your point is "scum would've hammered by now" right? well, that's under the assumptation that i'm town getting wagoned, and while i appreciate the flattery, it's only an assumption

yes it could be two, what i mean more is like, it's at least one of us 3 and as such doesn't give much info

pedit : bruh

Yes I missed the following logic:

If psyche and Jackson are both town, you are scum, because I don't think Town!psyche would lie about his watcher visit at such a crucial time. Therefore yes, it is impossible all three of you are town.

[Luca Blight]

Let's just not rush the elimination like on D2. I think we're still waiting on Hu Tao's result as well.

I'm going to be busy for most of today so will think it through later.

[ketchup777]

But now guys riddle me this

We know by 1993's logic that there is at least one scum in Psyche/Jackson/Gypyx.
I think it is unlikely, although it is possible, that all 3 are scum.

So
If 1<=scum in Psyche/Jackson/Gypyx<=2

and

Me, Hu Tao, OutWorld, Luca very likely town

that only leaves Black for number 3

In addition, if me, Hu Tao, OutWorld and Luca are all town, that means it must be black and 2 of Psyche/Jackson/Gypyx, probably Psyche+Jackson (but not definitely)

[ketchup777]

Let's just not rush the elimination like on D2. I think we're still waiting on Hu Tao's result as well.

I'm going to be busy for most of today so will think it through later.

yes I wholeheartedly agree. Look forward to a new Hu Tao insight

[JacksonVirgo]

So you really got no other solve in the off chance you're wrong? I'm not asking you to believe I am town, I'm asking you to consider a world where you're wrong

and i'm telling you there's basically no world

In that case I'm treating this as you trying not to spew after getting red-checked
VOTE: Gypyx

this vote feels super risky for a townie, even one confident in their reads, to put someone to E-3 before Luca has even claimed

You underestimate the power of my sheer reckless overconfidence

[Gypyx]

But now guys riddle me this

We know by 1993's logic that there is at least one scum in Psyche/Jackson/Gypyx.
I think it is unlikely, although it is possible, that all 3 are scum.

So
If 1<=scum in Psyche/Jackson/Gypyx<=2

and

Me, Hu Tao, OutWorld, Luca very likely town

that only leaves Black for number 3

In addition, if me, Hu Tao, OutWorld and Luca are all town, that means it must be black and 2 of Psyche/Jackson/Gypyx, probably Psyche+Jackson (but not definitely)

oh wow that's crazy, yet another person who's been gunning for me

[JacksonVirgo]

But now guys riddle me this

We know by 1993's logic that there is at least one scum in Psyche/Jackson/Gypyx.
I think it is unlikely, although it is possible, that all 3 are scum.

So
If 1<=scum in Psyche/Jackson/Gypyx<=2

and

Me, Hu Tao, OutWorld, Luca very likely town

that only leaves Black for number 3

In addition, if me, Hu Tao, OutWorld and Luca are all town, that means it must be black and 2 of Psyche/Jackson/Gypyx, probably Psyche+Jackson (but not definitely)

Why am I in the pool with the red checks