Kemusan - Game Over

[Enchant]

I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?

I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now

How it's related

The only difference between being left / exed is that one is popular vote and the other is the choice of 1 person except they get influence by popular opinion too

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh reread my question

[Gypyx]

I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?

I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now

How it's related

The only difference between being left / exed is that one is popular vote and the other is the choice of 1 person except they get influence by popular opinion too

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh reread my question

i think it's pretty widespread consensus that scum is generally more concerned about survivability than town, even if town can get concerned about it?

[Bell]

I know i'm not scum doing that tho, and i'm one of the main proponents of scum-ffery

The other loud people pushing that that come to mind are cakez, fire (in the beginning) and idk if they would approach the game with the pov of: i need to tilt town-ffery

Like ig who do you think is scum who is doing this?

Like sure i can see you doing this, but i don't think you're pushing ffery as scum particularly loudly

@cabd

Wow, my posts really do bounce off of you.

[Enchant]

I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?

I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now

How it's related

The only difference between being left / exed is that one is popular vote and the other is the choice of 1 person except they get influence by popular opinion too

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh reread my question

i think it's pretty widespread consensus that scum is generally more concerned about survivability than town, even if town can get concerned about it?

Sounds like bias

[skitter30]

I know i'm not scum doing that tho, and i'm one of the main proponents of scum-ffery

The other loud people pushing that that come to mind are cakez, fire (in the beginning) and idk if they would approach the game with the pov of: i need to tilt town-ffery

Like ig who do you think is scum who is doing this?

Like sure i can see you doing this, but i don't think you're pushing ffery as scum particularly loudly

@cabd

Wow, my posts really do bounce off of you.

Sorry, they really do for some reason >.>
I literally can't think of most of ur reads offhand

[RH9]

wait. did fire mention who they'd prefer to pair with?

After the catch up was this the only thing you had in mind?

it was one thing but not the only.

[Gypyx]

I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?

I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now

How it's related

The only difference between being left / exed is that one is popular vote and the other is the choice of 1 person except they get influence by popular opinion too

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh reread my question

i think it's pretty widespread consensus that scum is generally more concerned about survivability than town, even if town can get concerned about it?

Sounds like bias

[RH9]

spiffeh/lavar are unaligned imo.

[Bell]

I don’t even know if I have reads this game.
It’s been hard to get a real grasp on it.

In spite of being told I’m wrong,

I’m still sitting at

spiffeh-Dragon-HST. Town.
The dragon got points for how they talked to ff.

And I think ff and ydra are scum.

I don’t have a real opinion about anybody else’s alignments.

Maybe a very small scum lean on LLD. Because of their FB interaction feeling similar to an interaction I had with them last time they were scum, but I think just in general they arm twist pretty hard when someone doesn’t do what they want.

[fferyllt]

I know i'm not scum doing that tho, and i'm one of the main proponents of scum-ffery

The other loud people pushing that that come to mind are cakez, fire (in the beginning) and idk if they would approach the game with the pov of: i need to tilt town-ffery

Like ig who do you think is scum who is doing this?

Like sure i can see you doing this, but i don't think you're pushing ffery as scum particularly loudly

@cabd

The tilt was already rolling when you were able to start posting. I feel like you took advantage of this.

Firebringer knocked me sideways to start with. And unless he's scum WITH someone who knows how to tilt me, I feel like his push has been authentic.

So I'm looking at players who have taken advantage more closely. And your approach is the one that bothers me most. Cakez, too, but he really hasn't been much of a presence in my mindscape, anyway.

[SirCakez]

Im here and around but I am not really feeling much to comment on tbh, my positions are stated now and nothing is changing my mind so far

[Bell]

Congratulations on the scum win Sircakez, I saw you when you said, “Gee, I can’t believe I was right in limlo for once!”

[Bell]

Im here and around but I am not really feeling much to comment on tbh, my positions are stated now and nothing is changing my mind so far

Apologies, where are your positions stated?

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Is it bad if I’m townreading Enchant

[SirCakez]

Congratulations on the scum win Sircakez, I saw you when you said, “Gee, I can’t believe I was right in limlo for once!”

Thanks, yeah there were some tells for sure I got helped a lot by pooky and the fake will

[SirCakez]

Im here and around but I am not really feeling much to comment on tbh, my positions are stated now and nothing is changing my mind so far

Apologies, where are your positions stated?

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[Lady Lambdadelta]

my scumteam looks something like one of Cabd/Ffery (I don't care to sort which it is but their interactions are poodo) Enchant, Rh9 and (someone who is somewhat townread and coasting to the end) because there is a lack of urgency in this thread for fighting over reads that scum would need to have to win this game. FireRed? HST? STD? Somewhere in there.

Leave RH9 and Enchant out as well as one Lady (FireRed), then kill Ffery/Cabd and see where we stand, is my current solve. I don't wanna go too deep into it, but if I can kill 5 players and see where we stand after that I'd be very confident in winning from there I think.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

that's my sober effort post for the day.

I'll also state that if a Lady isn't willing to sac themselves for leaving out two gentlemen, I prefer Enchant being left out over RH9 at this point but god just drown them both with Ffery and Cabd for me please.

Like even if we kill those 4 (and by definition kill the lady who pairs with the one of RH9 and Enchant we don't leave out) that's where I stand. I'd just prefer to take a shot in my Deep Wolf Pool while killing those 4.

[skitter30]

I know i'm not scum doing that tho, and i'm one of the main proponents of scum-ffery

The other loud people pushing that that come to mind are cakez, fire (in the beginning) and idk if they would approach the game with the pov of: i need to tilt town-ffery

Like ig who do you think is scum who is doing this?

Like sure i can see you doing this, but i don't think you're pushing ffery as scum particularly loudly

@cabd

The tilt was already rolling when you were able to start posting. I feel like you took advantage of this.

Firebringer knocked me sideways to start with. And unless he's scum WITH someone who knows how to tilt me, I feel like his push has been authentic.

So I'm looking at players who have taken advantage more closely. And your approach is the one that bothers me most. Cakez, too, but he really hasn't been much of a presence in my mindscape, anyway.

So like i know this is wrong, but from your pov fair enuf.

Ok so if i'm scum i'm trying to create chaos around your slot to make it hard for everyone else to sort the game?

(Although i will say i don't think i would come into a game with the purpose of trying to tilt someone in particular, feels a little ~not great to me in a general sense. Capitalizing on the swirl of chaos around someone fair game tho)

[skitter30]

my scumteam looks something like one of Cabd/Ffery (I don't care to sort which it is but their interactions are poodo) Enchant, Rh9 and (someone who is somewhat townread and coasting to the end) because there is a lack of urgency in this thread for fighting over reads that scum would need to have to win this game. FireRed? HST? STD? Somewhere in there.

Leave RH9 and Enchant out as well as one Lady (FireRed), then kill Ffery/Cabd and see where we stand, is my current solve. I don't wanna go too deep into it, but if I can kill 5 players and see where we stand after that I'd be very confident in winning from there I think.

Uhhhhhh
I'm dubious

[fferyllt]

I know i'm not scum doing that tho, and i'm one of the main proponents of scum-ffery

The other loud people pushing that that come to mind are cakez, fire (in the beginning) and idk if they would approach the game with the pov of: i need to tilt town-ffery

Like ig who do you think is scum who is doing this?

Like sure i can see you doing this, but i don't think you're pushing ffery as scum particularly loudly

@cabd

The tilt was already rolling when you were able to start posting. I feel like you took advantage of this.

Firebringer knocked me sideways to start with. And unless he's scum WITH someone who knows how to tilt me, I feel like his push has been authentic.

So I'm looking at players who have taken advantage more closely. And your approach is the one that bothers me most. Cakez, too, but he really hasn't been much of a presence in my mindscape, anyway.

So like i know this is wrong, but from your pov fair enuf.

Ok so if i'm scum i'm trying to create chaos around your slot to make it hard for everyone else to sort the game?

(Although i will say i don't think i would come into a game with the purpose of trying to tilt someone in particular, feels a little ~not great to me in a general sense. Capitalizing on the swirl of chaos around someone fair game tho)

I think what you are trying to do, and Cakez even more so is to get us out of the game QUICKLY during the dance phase, to the point where we might not have time to work on a full solve. I hope we get at least 2-3 days, but that's my biggest fear right now. That we're quick-elimmed and post half-assed reads rather than a rigorous solve.

[fferyllt]

My initial plan was to do that rigorous solve and then leave the dance.

I'm worried now that I'm elimmed before that happens.

[skitter30]

You're still my preferred lim but i'm fine giving you a few days to get your solves - if i'm wrong i'd much rather have a full-fledged readslist than not

I won't rush it through for the sake of rushing it through
(But like the pass doesn't last till endgame, if we get to a point where there's only a few pairs left and i still think you're scum i'll probably start calling for you to leave/be limmed a lot more vocally, regardless of the state of your reads)

But i don't really have any intention of just pushing through your lim to the point where yoi can't give reads

[Lady Lambdadelta]

my scumteam looks something like one of Cabd/Ffery (I don't care to sort which it is but their interactions are poodo) Enchant, Rh9 and (someone who is somewhat townread and coasting to the end) because there is a lack of urgency in this thread for fighting over reads that scum would need to have to win this game. FireRed? HST? STD? Somewhere in there.

Leave RH9 and Enchant out as well as one Lady (FireRed), then kill Ffery/Cabd and see where we stand, is my current solve. I don't wanna go too deep into it, but if I can kill 5 players and see where we stand after that I'd be very confident in winning from there I think.

Uhhhhhh
I'm dubious

Yeah? Of which part precisely.

The part where Ffery and Cabd can't be S/S in this setup and never will be but their posting indicates they're not T/T because I'd know with certainty and be waving the flag for their defense if they were?

or The part where Rh9 and Enchant's posting has been ungodly slippery since what I'd describe as openings intended to ease into the thread and neither have shown me any real growth since then. Enchant is sticking to their troll first troll often strategy that makes them hard to read but i'm not getting what i expect to see from town enchant (where as town Bell is flyign the flag this game so, and i read them similarly) and Rh9 has not recovered from my initial problems with them and if anything have been seeking refuge behind people who are reading their style of play more charitably than they should.

[skitter30]

I agree that cabd/ffery is not tvt

I really don't like the idea of limming through enchant/rh9 and forcing a lady to go unpaired (esp. Fire???) - my confidence level that we'll hit even one scum in these is not high and feels like we'd just be chaining a lot of 'town but hard to read' people here