Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[KayJayQueue]

Well originally I had voted Naerys. I took my vote away for two reasons. The reason I just mentioned about not wanting to eliminate both Naerys and Hu (mainly because I am town reading Hu) but also because Naerys was getting close to elimination and I didn’t want the day to end that early. I feel like I’ve learned a lot since I took my vote off so I stand by my decision.

Why would they be a package deal?

They’re only a package deal if Naerys is town, in my opinion. (even though it’s been floated that they’re both scum and it’s a distancing act, but I can’t subscribe to that theory based on how they’ve interacted). It’s because the one confirmed good person has basically stated that they believe at least one is scum. If Naerys is town, I’m assuming that Hu Tao would be pushed. Obviously it’s an assumption because there’s no way of knowing what kind of information we’ll get during a night phase but I’m operating on the what ifs. Especially with a couple people stating their belief that it’s town vs town. None of this matters if Naerys is eliminated and is scum. I just read Hu Tao as more town than Naerys but others see it the other way around. However, the longer the self vote stays the more she’s seeming town as well which is what worries me as I believe Hu Tao is town. If one is pushed and is town, I know someone will do the easy thing the next day (barring new info) and just start a vote on the other one.

[Random Nurse]

Titus also barely posting makes me wonder, considering they're usually tearing into it.

I’m going to be sad if the scum team is something like geraint/Titus/KJQ

I think I just wanna lim in this pool today though

The only one that can be scum here is geratim. However, why is your vote not there?

Is it just me or is this a bit tunnely and, dare I say, distancy?

Lol. These do not compute.

That's hardly an adequate response, Titus, and you know it.

[Hu Tao]

Hmmmm

[geraintm]

Doctor Drew what do you think about voting either Naerys or Hu?

I wanted the day to end fast from.page 1!

Naughty point

This is the sole substantive mention of Naerys. Yet now geratim wants to end the day fast.

[geraintm]

Doctor Drew what do you think about voting either Naerys or Hu?

I wanted the day to end fast from.page 1!

Naughty point

This is the sole substantive mention of Naerys. Yet now geratim wants to end the day fast.

I always want thr day to end fast, I did from my first vote!

[Klick]

And there was like NO resistance to my fail wagon until I played Uno Reverse card.

Klick enters the chat

[NotAScum]

I always want thr day to end fast, I did from my first vote!

Why would you want the day to end fast? It's one thing to want shorter day (I'd personally prefer 2-3 day per in-game day), another to end the day earlier.
This isnt townlike behavior.

[geraintm]

I always want thr day to end fast, I did from my first vote!

Why would you want the day to end fast? It's one thing to want shorter day (I'd personally prefer 2-3 day per in-game day), another to end the day earlier.
This isnt townlike behavior.

I believe long day 1s, with multiple long wagons that force claims are bad for town.
I can back this up across multiple games.

[NotAScum]

I believe long day 1s, with multiple long wagons that force claims are bad for town.
I can back this up across multiple games.

Sounds like a good way to corner scum team by the process of elimination.

[Random Nurse]

And there was like NO resistance to my fail wagon until I played Uno Reverse card.

Klick enters the chat

You're not that memorable tho.

[NotAScum]

Are we giving HT a pass?

[geraintm]

I believe long day 1s, with multiple long wagons that force claims are bad for town.
I can back this up across multiple games.

Sounds like a good way to corner scum team by the process of elimination.

Nope, gives scum way too much info on the roles in the game so they can tailor their claims around them

[Hu Tao]

Are we giving HT a pass?

Why aren't you on Naerys. She did the same thing as me?

[Dannflor]

yeah i mean i could vote NAS too

[davesaz]

I'm wary of Psyche being so sure about NAS. I don't think it would be wise to give lock status if NAS flips scum.

[davesaz]

I believe long day 1s, with multiple long wagons that force claims are bad for town.
I can back this up across multiple games.

Theory is nice but how it applies to individual game state also matters.
Big wagons also force people to make choices and those choices can act to neutralize scum's team advantage.

[davesaz]

VOTE: Clout

VOTE: psyche

Don't think anyone has asked you why on this vote.

[Dannflor]

for what it’s worth i suddenly feel better about you

Why?

i think KJQ's reaction to my pressure was towny

[Dannflor]

However, why is your vote not there?

my vote is on geraintm.

[Dannflor]

actually political clout seems like scum

[Hu Tao]

It's okay. Just look at my list of 6. It has all scum in there

[KayJayQueue]

I’m taking back my “probably town” read on Psyche for the time being. I’m not buying the absolutely certain full tunnel on NAS, I feel like this is a play of some kind but I don’t understand why yet.

[Dannflor]

if i were to put together a reads list, it would look something like this:

{Klick, kayjayqueue, hu tao}
{Psyche, davesaz, naerys}
{aristeia}
{NotAScum, Titus}
{Political Clout, geraintm}

[Political Clout]

VOTE: gera

At work... working...not really reading the thread too tired.

[Political Clout]

if i were to put together a reads list, it would look something like this:

{Klick, kayjayqueue, hu tao}
{Psyche, davesaz, naerys}
{aristeia}
{NotAScum, Titus}
{Political Clout, geraintm}

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