Micro Normal 1100 | Game Over

[Thomith]

Votecount 1.13

Votecount 1.13

Not_Mafia (3):

Not_Mafia, Solon, Malachai

E-2

Malachai (2):

Doctor Drew, JacksonVirgo

Snow2697 (1)

FancyPants

Not Voting (3):

GuyInFreezer, Snow2697, KayJayQueue

With 9 Alive, it takes 5 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-03-13 05:56:04)

Mod Notes

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[Snow2697]

Kay, don't worry. It's my 2nd game here as well, so you should not treat my thoughts on you as very authoritative. And I think I never called you locked scum.

I simply feel that you avoid confrontation, try to look good and nice, call people town, see conflicts as TvT, target not active players who can hardly respond. I really disliked your criticism of RN in 602 and 605. And not just because I am in his slot now. He was an easy target as player here, his message to put it mildly was not ideal and was subject to fair criticism, but why would a town player of your style jump on him as you did? To prove that you are active and brave? Looked like a posturing.

What really stops me from pushing you is that you could have been in team with Roland (who was sus for me, but his slot went up on my scale) and I don't see you in team with Drew or Jackson (who are going down). And yes, you can be a newbie townie whose mislim would not give a lot in terms of overall picture.

[KayJayQueue]

Kay, don't worry. It's my 2nd game here as well, so you should not treat my thoughts on you as very authoritative. And I think I never called you locked scum.

I simply feel that you avoid confrontation, try to look good and nice, call people town, see conflicts as TvT, target not active players who can hardly respond. I really disliked your criticism of RN in 602 and 605. And not just because I am in his slot now. He was an easy target as player here, his message to put it mildly was not ideal and was subject to fair criticism, but why would a town player of your style jump on him as you did? To prove that you are active and brave? Looked like a posturing.

What really stops me from pushing you is that you could have been in team with Roland (who was sus for me, but his slot went up on my scale) and I don't see you in team with Drew or Jackson (who are going down). And yes, you can be a newbie townie whose mislim would not give a lot in terms of overall picture.

I’m sorry about my tone in those 2 posts. I had just finished working a 46 hour in 3 days work trip and then had an exhausting travel day home and was probably just being extra irritable. Though this is only my second game, RN is someone I have experience with so my reaction was stronger because his actions confused me a LOT and it made no sense to me. I think I was a bit peeved that in a game of 9, 3 were either trolling or not taking it seriously at the time (gob, RN, N_M) and I’m just really invested in these games.

And if it seems like I’m avoiding confrontation, it’s probably true but that’s more of something my therapist should be looking at as it’s not exclusive to these games lol

[Solon]

I'm against an NM elim

He isn't playing the game, why shouldn't we eliminate him?

[Malachai]

At this point is there anything I could possibly do that you wouldn’t scumread me for? To quote an ancient 20 year old movie called Mean Girls: “Why are you so obsessed with me?”

I also like to quote the main character from the ancient boomer TV series The Wire: "the fuck did

I

do?"

[Malachai]

Kay, don't worry. It's my 2nd game here as well, so you should not treat my thoughts on you as very authoritative. And I think I never called you locked scum.

I simply feel that you avoid confrontation, try to look good and nice, call people town, see conflicts as TvT, target not active players who can hardly respond. I really disliked your criticism of RN in 602 and 605. And not just because I am in his slot now. He was an easy target as player here, his message to put it mildly was not ideal and was subject to fair criticism, but why would a town player of your style jump on him as you did? To prove that you are active and brave? Looked like a posturing.

What really stops me from pushing you is that you could have been in team with Roland (who was sus for me, but his slot went up on my scale) and I don't see you in team with Drew or Jackson (who are going down). And yes, you can be a newbie townie whose mislim would not give a lot in terms of overall picture.

For me, the reason I townread Kay so much is a combination of how involved she is / how much she's willing to post, and how willing she is to get involved in pretty much every angle being discussed. When JacksonVirgo showed up and started going through opinions on people, and Kay said something like "ohh do me!", that struck me as something a scum would NEVER say. They would never

enthusiastically

ask someone else to weigh in on their towniness; they wouldn't encourage it in the slightest.

FWIW Snow, I don't scum read you either, so with Kay I think you've just got the wrong read is all.

[Malachai]

Kay we could probably talk about lots of movies from the late 1900s!

[Malachai]

I'm against an NM elim

He isn't playing the game, why shouldn't we eliminate him?

I legitimately read Not Mafia as scum at this point. It is partially process-of-elimination for me, but I also just really do not like that he provides these reads and doesn't describe them at all. It's odd to me that anyone gives him credit for his reads when he gives us nothing about why he even has those reads in the first place. And the reads themselves, I just do not like...of course I'm naturally going to be a little biased since he calls me his scummiest read, but I think I can also pretty convincingly argue that having Gob as the towniest read at that point made absolutely 0 sense, as he did nothing to deserve being townread so strongly at that stage of the game. NM's choice to use a color spectrum means that he was indeed showing the degree to how much he supposedly believes each slot is town / scum, and even THAT is kinda weird to me, as I think it's pretty tough to have really confident distinctions between people instead of general buckets at this stage of the game.

If I'm wrong about Drew or Not Mafia, I think the next two up for me would be Snow / FancyPants, but I have yet to see anyone make a decent case to suspect either of them. Every argument I see is just based on feels, which none of us can relate to. Like this is how JacksonVirgo describes his read on Snow:

I believe Snow's slot is wolf, it started as being my null-consolidation vote as the game was stagnant but that increased to a steady scum-read based on how the game progressed when that started kicking off. Snow's posting in particular did not do anything for me, like it seemed to do for you.

I know I'm not asking him in that moment to really make a case, but obviously, if people aren't making arguments, using evidence that the rest of us can latch on to and such, it's obviously not going to be convincing to anyone. I feel like I can pretty easily put a finger on actions from both Drew and Not Mafia and describe to everyone here how they don't add up and how they seem indicative of scum behavior, and I find myself unable to do that for anyone else at the moment.

[Malachai]

And Jackson, what DO you listen to if you want to chill out?

I answered that? But here's one particular song



This song has been played so much lately, this performance version in particular.

BTW even this I would not listen to if I wanted to chill haha. This is still very much angsty spectrum for me. If I'm looking to chill, I'm listening to stuff like Cigarettes After Sex or Aphex Twin. (I'm also probably a hopeless hipster...former college radio DJ here, FYI lol)

[GuyInFreezer]

So why are there still votes on Malachai

[Not_Mafia]

I'm Pro-NM elim

[Solon]

@Mod

: How is Not_Mafia playing to his win condition here? Serious question. There is a lack of consistency when one player is kicked while another isn't, you can't blame me for thinking it might be alignment indicative.

If you don't want me to draw such conclusions then be consistent and kick both players, not just one, for game throwing and playing against win con.

[Malachai]

@Mod

: How is Not_Mafia playing to his win condition here? Serious question. There is a lack of consistency when one player is kicked while another isn't, you can't blame me for thinking it might be alignment indicative.

If you don't want me to draw such conclusions then be consistent and kick both players, not just one, for game throwing and playing against win con.

+1 on this sentiment.

[KayJayQueue]

@Mod

: How is Not_Mafia playing to his win condition here? Serious question. There is a lack of consistency when one player is kicked while another isn't, you can't blame me for thinking it might be alignment indicative.

If you don't want me to draw such conclusions then be consistent and kick both players, not just one, for game throwing and playing against win con.

+1 on this sentiment.

Third-ed? Thriced? Trio-d? Triad-ing? Joining the threesome? Return of the King-ing this trilogy?

Anyway, I agree.

[Not_Mafia]

@Mod

: How is Not_Mafia playing to his win condition here? Serious question. There is a lack of consistency when one player is kicked while another isn't, you can't blame me for thinking it might be alignment indicative.

If you don't want me to draw such conclusions then be consistent and kick both players, not just one, for game throwing and playing against win con.

+1 on this sentiment.

Third-ed? Thriced? Trio-d? Triad-ing? Joining the threesome? Return of the King-ing this trilogy?

Anyway, I agree.

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[KayJayQueue]

Look I know I said I wanted people to see I was town, but not like this lol N_M is probably just purposely putting me first to make me look sus. I can’t escape it! If he flips scum I hope yall see that he’s just doing this to spite me

[Thomith]

This is a final warning to Solon against using moderator decisions to try and speculate around alignments of other players. Per rule 17 moderator actions do not take alignments into account. gob threatened to throw the game, while Not_Mafia has not and has not breached any rules so far.

[JacksonVirgo]

@Mod

: How is Not_Mafia playing to his win condition here? Serious question. There is a lack of consistency when one player is kicked while another isn't, you can't blame me for thinking it might be alignment indicative.

If you don't want me to draw such conclusions then be consistent and kick both players, not just one, for game throwing and playing against win con.

This is something to talk about privately

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh, thom got here before me. Based

[KayJayQueue]

Oh, thom got here before me. Based

Teachers pet!

(I’ll allow it)

[JacksonVirgo]

Look I know I said I wanted people to see I was town, but not like this lol N_M is probably just purposely putting me first to make me look sus. I can’t escape it! If he flips scum I hope yall see that he’s just doing this to spite me

Meanwhile I got no idea which is me

[KayJayQueue]

Look I know I said I wanted people to see I was town, but not like this lol N_M is probably just purposely putting me first to make me look sus. I can’t escape it! If he flips scum I hope yall see that he’s just doing this to spite me

Meanwhile I got no idea which is me

You’re Latoya, obviously!