Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)
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Tenshi Hinanawi Goon
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@Ichirin you were concerned there are only two scum?-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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I don’t think an executioner meets the flavor.
Probably.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Ichirin Kumoi sie/hirGoonsie/hir
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I thank you very much for pointing out the own strange dichotomy in your past and present reasons for voting me. YouIn post 1774, Clownpiece wrote: I mean, I have been pretty explicit on the reasons that I think that you are scum.
Spoiler:hadan actual anchor point for your case before, my initial response to my wagon, but now you just throw shit at the wall to see what sticks.They're pronounced like see/hear.-
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Ichirin Kumoi sie/hirGoonsie/hir
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More of a metaphor. I think Clownpiece is just straight scum.
They're pronounced like see/hear.-
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Tenshi Hinanawi Goon
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In post 1775, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: @Ichirin you were concerned there are only two scum?-
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Ichirin Kumoi sie/hirGoonsie/hir
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The setup doesn't specify numbers so I am actually a little concerned about a third scum, yes.In post 1775, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: @Ichirin you were concerned there are only two scum?They're pronounced like see/hear.-
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Clownpiece Goon
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This at least is vaguely true, in that I do not see the reason to restate the reasons every time I encourage people to vote you, when I feel like I spelled it out prior.In post 1772, Ichirin Kumoi wrote: I suspect you've abandoned the pretense of actually needing a reason to constantly try and get me killed anyhow-
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Ichirin Kumoi sie/hirGoonsie/hir
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Once again: Disproportionate fervor. You sunk your talons into the first bit of exposed flesh you could find and just decided not to let go even to try and find a better spot to stab me in.In post 1781, Clownpiece wrote:
This at least is vaguely true, in that I do not see the reason to restate the reasons every time I encourage people to vote you, when I feel like I spelled it out prior.In post 1772, Ichirin Kumoi wrote: I suspect you've abandoned the pretense of actually needing a reason to constantly try and get me killed anyhowThey're pronounced like see/hear.-
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Clownpiece Goon
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Those are not past reasons lol.In post 1777, Ichirin Kumoi wrote: in your past and present reasons
They are still a large part of why I am voting you *right now*
You were my best guess at scum, and I was advocating for your elim based on that case -> You made a catch up post that I was unimpressed with -> Your push against Kagerou looked disingenuous in the same performative way I felt about your Eternity Larva questioning before -> I am continuing to call for your elim.
I dont need a new case every time I tell people to vote you lol-
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Ichirin Kumoi sie/hirGoonsie/hir
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I don't believe Townpiece makes this level of read over some uncharitable interpretations of my reaction to the wagon.They're pronounced like see/hear.-
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Tenshi Hinanawi Goon
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@Koishi, thoughts?In post 1780, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
The setup doesn't specify numbers so I am actually a little concerned about a third scum, yes.In post 1775, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: @Ichirin you were concerned there are only two scum?-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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I just assumed there was 3 scum.
Because two doesn’t sound like much.
Touhou definitely has space for a 3p, but given how alignments are rolled and flavor is rolled, it seems kind of like a strange fit for 2s, one 3p.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Ichirin Kumoi sie/hirGoonsie/hir
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God I cannot wait to be done with this game.They're pronounced like see/hear.-
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Tenshi Hinanawi Goon
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Am I stupid to use this as a town tell?-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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I will take this at face value.In post 1788, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: Am I stupid to use this as a town tell?
No?
But like most things that aren’t math, it’s not easy to figure out which people are pretending.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Clownpiece Goon
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This is genuinely such a silly takeIn post 1782, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
Once again: Disproportionate fervor. You sunk your talons into the first bit of exposed flesh you could find and just decided not to let go even to try and find a better spot to stab me in.In post 1781, Clownpiece wrote:
This at least is vaguely true, in that I do not see the reason to restate the reasons every time I encourage people to vote you, when I feel like I spelled it out prior.In post 1772, Ichirin Kumoi wrote: I suspect you've abandoned the pretense of actually needing a reason to constantly try and get me killed anyhow-
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Koishi Komeiji Goon
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I'm concerned it doesn't match the perception of player experience I otherwise have of the slot. (I.E. I expect this is a thing only to somebody who is playing their first mini theme onsite)In post 1785, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote:
@Koishi, thoughts?In post 1780, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
The setup doesn't specify numbers so I am actually a little concerned about a third scum, yes.In post 1775, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: @Ichirin you were concerned there are only two scum?
If I were sitting in a mafia pt making up a list of items I think would be easy to fake for town tell cred, this would be on the top tier.
Can it be real? Absolutely.
Am I going to treat it in any way shape or form as a valid town tell? Nope. But it's not particularly damning either.-
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Koishi Komeiji Goon
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Actually it could be a third party slip if anything.
But third parties have no reason not to work with us and can likely just claim outright if so, because of the wording of my win condition. (I doubt there is a third party in this game to be clear because of said wording)-
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Aya Shameimaru Goon
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In post 253, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:In post 144, Eternity Larva wrote: VOTE: Daiyousei this is probably just scum tho
and i don't think it's because i'm not vibing with the roleplay (i don't want to discourage the roleplay btw, do what is fun for you! i am just bitter about not knowing the flavor and being left out of the joke)
Do not like any of these votes.
I refuse to do my reporting in Wall Posts, so let's start here, with this series of posts. Sie has spent most if not all of their time prior to the post calling out votes on Dai posting gems about disliking the Mod's personal colour and arguing over the name to role mechanic. Consider this sie's first real engagement into the game, followed by a response of... this reporter is going to go with Outrage tinged with surprise as the sudden turn onto hir.In post 254, Ichirin Kumoi wrote: Oh. I look away for a few minutes and by the time I post again there's 3 people on me.
Ichirin then proceeds to engage negatively with the pressure, but in a way that doesn't read like scum being flustered, none of this reads like scum being flustered. It does read like a player uncomfortable in the game trying to find a foothold and deciding they have seen a pattern of behaviour that they want to comment on, being punished for making that comment, and reacting accordingly.
I fail to be able to report what the scum behavioural motivation behind taking this line of behaviour was. And I don't even mean the emotional response that comes later, emotions can be harder to control. I mean making the observation about the votes on Dai... and then returning only to comment on the votes on you without offering more substantials. What's the end goal? What's the angle? Where's the motivation behind this? I can see and have offered a townie perspective on this. It reads and fits very well with my understanding of the slot and player. But I just don't get why scum!Ichirin does this? What benefit? What angle? Scum can make mistakes but this reads like the kind of unforced error only townies make, unless you're trying to argue a level of WIFOM into "too scummy to be scum" that is hard to argue is a scum players goal THIS EARLY into day 1.-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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Koishi, Is your win condition different than the one that the template set up?
Going to do my best to keep this derail short.
If it’s not any different, then there’s no implication that there is direct conflict with our win condition but there is no indication that their role pm wouldn’t have one, or wouldn’t require them to keep their heads down until the wind blows a particular way, I think.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Aya Shameimaru Goon
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I don't know why we're engaging in third party speculation at this point.-
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Aya Shameimaru Goon
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Also, I'll do more of Ichirin's ISO and talk about Ichirin later. I had a moment now but I'm really not in the headspace to engage with this thread. I'm just trying not to wait so long that the clock has ticked to 5 minutes to midnight when I make my arguments.-
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Koishi Komeiji Goon
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Template?In post 1794, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Koishi, Is your win condition different than the one that the template set up?
Going to do my best to keep this derail short.
If it’s not any different, then there’s no implication that there is direct conflict with our win condition but there is no indication that their role pm wouldn’t have one, or wouldn’t require them to keep their heads down until the wind blows a particular way, I think.
Mine specifies the mafia faction name and states I have to eliminate all of them.-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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The sample uninformed majority role pm.
First page.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Koishi Komeiji Goon
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Ah. Identical. I was tangenting though, I don't think we have a third party. Would rather go back to Aya's focus.
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