Open 906: AAAAAAHHHH I Ran out of Game Names!!! [Game Over]

[Gimli]

@purplemango can you please link me to your towngame?

viewtopic.php?t=91644
I'm pretty sure its supposed to work

thanks

you look exactly the same there

[halfasleep]

This is the first palindromic post number after 1000

hi, jake! you're currently voting purple. you framed this as wanting to get more out of him. is this still true?
your heaviest expressed scumread during the game is the black/gimli slot. where are you on them or any of your previous votes (me, jackson, jupiter/thomith)?

[halfasleep]

@purplemango can you please link me to your towngame?

viewtopic.php?t=91644
I'm pretty sure its supposed to work

not a useful comment but damn they got through four days of play real concisely over here. is this game the weird one lol?

[fireisredsir]

varies a lot, this is closer to the longer end of the range for a micro day 1

we should probably try to consolidate fairly soon, long day 1s are not particularly healthy for the game

[Purplemango]

@purplemango can you please link me to your towngame?

viewtopic.php?t=91644
I'm pretty sure its supposed to work

not a useful comment but damn they got through four days of play real concisely over here. is this game the weird one lol?

I don't know, the other game I played lasted over a month
But it wasn't micro either, I think

[halfasleep]

varies a lot, this is closer to the longer end of the range for a micro day 1

we should probably try to consolidate fairly soon, long day 1s are not particularly healthy for the game

hmm. i guess i can imagine conflicting ideas on this. is it better to get scum to post as much as possible to work with later or to cut the noise at some point? idk
where would we consolidate if it was only up to you? still jake or are there other options for you?

[Gimli]

VOTE: awesomeming

this is now my bottom townlean and after re-reading the ISO I agree with some of the stuff pointed by halfasleep and mango (the mango one was literally that post he went 'this is weird but I can't phrase why). I think the big AI post fireisred likes might be scummy. let me revisit it:

Jake: made a weird self-vote thing and then started trying to divert to others. First to Black and then with

Sleepy, let's move away from my favorite topic to discuss (me) and talk about other people.

What do you think of Jupiter / Ming's responses to my actions?

He's really acting like it was something of a mass RT which I don't really see the point of at this stage.

I don't like Jupiter's reaction to it. He is way too confident from the very beginning that Jake was scum for the self-vote, and for what reason? Because it's a bad play?

there's no way that jake's on site for five years and has mafia knowledge YET PLAYS LIKE THIS AS TOWN???

The point of a scumtell is to differentiate between scum and town. Bad gameplay in no way does this: it comes from both town and scum and it is completely NAI and I do not get why he is so confident about this.

“It’s astounding they’ve been on the site with this towngame”

Paraphrased. This wording and yours seems to show to me that your assumption is that they’re town. Which would be the perspective slip in question.

I know what you meant to say, a slip is a slip.

How did you interpret that as a slip? I interpreted it more as "It is impossible that Jake [...] plays like this as town." The slip interpretation seems like a stretch and I lowkey doubt Jupiter's novice enough to make a mistake like that.

Anyway I think I agree that Jupiter seems off but I think a lot of people are thinking that for the wrong reasons. I think both selfvotes in and of themselves were NAI but both follow-ups to those self-votes were scummy.

I don't really want to further look at this situation (I'll come back to in in like 2-3 days) and so I want to put the people who were possibly, in Black's words "nudging", in closer scrutiny: Black, fireisred, halfasleep. I also feel like little has been discussed about those people in particular so that might be good.

Other comments:

Purplemango please show up or else

Anyways I have no idea who I'm voting right now so VOTE: awesomeming327 [/uv]awesomeming327[/uv]

I don't understand the second line 'he is acting like it was a massive reaction test

but I don't see the point at this stage

. I don't buy that as a reason to suspect jake because... in what stage is a reaction test valuable or pointful? isn't putting yourself in E-1 of a d1 kind of the most go-to reaction test one could make? I also think that, as far as reaction tests go, jake was really good at causing reactions. so I don't like this line.

and then on the very next sentence awesomeming is pushing jupiter for HIS reaction to the RT that he just said was pointless. isn't that odd, but not odd in a 'townies tripping all over their thoughts' way, but odd in a non-sequitur having your cake and eating it too way?

there's two different minds in this post: one that criticizes jake for doing a senseless play but also suggesting it was a scum move, cause awesomeming writes: 'weird self-vote thing

and then started trying to divert to others. first to black and then with (...)

'

he then scumreads jupiter's confidence on jake being scum, but then also kinda pushes jacksonvirgo's reasoning... and then diverts to other three players: black, fireisred and halfasleep. it just feels like awesomeming is trying to push everyone and nobody at the same time, and some of these pushes make sense as scum who is looking at a townie pushing another townie with botched reasoning, just pointing out the reasoning is botched cause you TMIing alignments, and then moving elsewhere to rinse and repeat without commiting to even a single read.

I think it could just be ming for these reasons.

[fireisredsir]

varies a lot, this is closer to the longer end of the range for a micro day 1

we should probably try to consolidate fairly soon, long day 1s are not particularly healthy for the game

hmm. i guess i can imagine conflicting ideas on this. is it better to get scum to post as much as possible to work with later or to cut the noise at some point? idk
where would we consolidate if it was only up to you? still jake or are there other options for you?

i used to always want days to last as long as possible for Maximum Information but yeah at a certain point it's just noise and it becomes harder and harder to dig through things

i actively won't vote for gimli, halfasleep, thomith

i don't particularly want to vote for kay

kinda iffy on ming and purple and am ok with wagons there

would like to vote for jake or jackson

[fireisredsir]

Quickly skimmed over the last few pages, and my overall thoughts are that all three of the people I mentioned above are towny, particularly halfasleep, who has seemed especially analytic (rather than popcorning)

i think that this as a fairly quick follow up to listing the three names does make it evident that he isn't setting up to push them

[fireisredsir]

it could come from scum either way though

[halfasleep]

ok it does seem like there's no chance i can get anyone on my first choice, kay, today. it looks like consolidating at least three votes (between me, fire and gimli) on either jackson or ming is possible here. i think i'm more inclined to want to flip jackson right now.

[Gimli]

it could come from scum either way though

yeah he is not pushing them per se. my opinion is that, if ming is scum, then he is posturing on townies getting to wrong conclusions about other townies, which is why his big contentful post feels like a snowball of (susses A -> susses B for pushing A -> susses C for pushing B -> susses D, E, F for 'nudging'). I think the post you quoted is even more evidence of posturing that I think could come from scum.

I hope I'm making sense to you

[Jake The Wolfie]

This is the first palindromic post number after 1000

hi, jake! you're currently voting purple. you framed this as wanting to get more out of him. is this still true?
your heaviest expressed scumread during the game is the black/gimli slot. where are you on them or any of your previous votes (me, jackson, jupiter/thomith)?

Hi, Sleepy!

I am currently voting Purple, and will likely continue to do so as I have lost some motivation to play.
Given that I have lost some motivation to play, I cannot answer the remaining of your questions at this time.

[Gimli]

I don't mind if we take our time with this game as this is probably the hardest game I've played this year

[fireisredsir]

I don't mind if we take our time with this game as this is probably the hardest game I've played this year

this is kind of a wild statement lol

[fireisredsir]

ok it does seem like there's no chance i can get anyone on my first choice, kay, today. it looks like consolidating at least three votes (between me, fire and gimli) on either jackson or ming is possible here. i think i'm more inclined to want to flip jackson right now.

what makes you prefer jackson?

[halfasleep]

ok it does seem like there's no chance i can get anyone on my first choice, kay, today. it looks like consolidating at least three votes (between me, fire and gimli) on either jackson or ming is possible here. i think i'm more inclined to want to flip jackson right now.

what makes you prefer jackson?

their dynamic with kay, mainly. i'm feeling more and more strongly that one of them is likely scum, so flipping either would be very helpful to me.

[JacksonVirgo]

ok it does seem like there's no chance i can get anyone on my first choice, kay, today. it looks like consolidating at least three votes (between me, fire and gimli) on either jackson or ming is possible here. i think i'm more inclined to want to flip jackson right now.

what makes you prefer jackson?

their dynamic with kay, mainly. i'm feeling more and more strongly that one of them is likely scum, so flipping either would be very helpful to me.

What about the dynamic?

[DragonEater70]

VC 1.14

Votecount 1.14

Gimli (2):

KayJayQueue, JacksonVirgo

Purplemango (1):

Jake The Wolfie

Jake The Wolfie (1):

fireisredsir

KayJayQueue (1):

halfasleep

awesomeming327 (1):

Gimli

Not Voting (3):

Purplemango, awesomeming327, Thomith

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-03-26 01:07:06).

Mod Notes

None!

[KayJayQueue]

I’m not fully V/LA or anything but activity level over the next 2 1/2 days will be greatly reduced as I’m starting my insane work hours as per every weekend. I’ll still be around though.

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m the inverse, I’ll have more time than usual

[Gimli]

I’m not fully V/LA or anything but activity level over the next 2 1/2 days will be greatly reduced as I’m starting my insane work hours as per every weekend. I’ll still be around though.

I have three Qs

what's your read on me, did it change anything since the last time you were deadset on me being scum?

what's your current read on ming?

would you fade ming this gameday?

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: Gimli

Meh

[Gimli]

VOTE: Gimli

Meh

may I ask for reasons?

[halfasleep]

VOTE: Gimli

Meh

should i assume you have nothing to add?