Open 906: AAAAAAHHHH I Ran out of Game Names!!! [Game Over]

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Gimli

Meh

Another quote to make it the third

[JacksonVirgo]

Pagetop too, based

[halfasleep]

ok it does seem like there's no chance i can get anyone on my first choice, kay, today. it looks like consolidating at least three votes (between me, fire and gimli) on either jackson or ming is possible here. i think i'm more inclined to want to flip jackson right now.

what makes you prefer jackson?

their dynamic with kay, mainly. i'm feeling more and more strongly that one of them is likely scum, so flipping either would be very helpful to me.

What about the dynamic?

like gimli, the level of unconditional townreading, mutual defense and agreement is very hard to believe from town + town. i have a hard time imagining that scum + scum would want to behave that way (double bluff? seems unlikely).
based on that and the issues i've had with both of you earlier, i think i lean towards thinking one of you could be scum successfully pocketing the other. i don't think kay is limmable today so i'm going to start prioritising you.

[halfasleep]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

let's see if this has legs

[JacksonVirgo]

ok it does seem like there's no chance i can get anyone on my first choice, kay, today. it looks like consolidating at least three votes (between me, fire and gimli) on either jackson or ming is possible here. i think i'm more inclined to want to flip jackson right now.

what makes you prefer jackson?

their dynamic with kay, mainly. i'm feeling more and more strongly that one of them is likely scum, so flipping either would be very helpful to me.

What about the dynamic?

like gimli, the level of unconditional townreading, mutual defense and agreement is very hard to believe from town + town. i have a hard time imagining that scum + scum would want to behave that way (double bluff? seems unlikely).
based on that and the issues i've had with both of you earlier, i think i lean towards thinking one of you could be scum successfully pocketing the other. i don't think kay is limmable today so i'm going to start prioritising you.

The mutual defence is because we town-read each other, it could be heavily bolstered by the fact we’re close outside of the game but genuinely I think they’re Town and their behaviour has coincided with that pretty heavily.

[JacksonVirgo]

Why would I not defend who I consider Town

[halfasleep]

i think there's a difference in tone to being resistant to others scumreading or voting for someone you

think

is town compared to a level of confidence that suggests you either

know

that they're town or have been convinced beyond what is reasonable.

[JacksonVirgo]

I never said I knew they were town

[JacksonVirgo]

I believe they’re town so I’m opposed to them being pushed, I don’t like the arguments presented against her so I’m opposed to the push. I think others are scummier so I push them.

[KayJayQueue]

I’m not fully V/LA or anything but activity level over the next 2 1/2 days will be greatly reduced as I’m starting my insane work hours as per every weekend. I’ll still be around though.

I have three Qs

what's your read on me, did it change anything since the last time you were deadset on me being scum?

what's your current read on ming?

would you fade ming this gameday?

My read didn’t change. I feel pretty solid about it.

I’m confused by ming but I am not scumreading him currently. I would say very very slight townread.

I don’t think I would unless it was the only option which I don’t believe it is.

[fireisredsir]

VOTE: jacksonvirgo

[Thomith]

I also don't like this from thomith, comparing wildly different ISOs and playstyles and calling them similar like that. the only thing they have in common is that they didn't post much.

Which is why when I was told by two separate people I was wrong I decided its best to reread through them today from a fresh perspective.
There's a chance I was wrong when I did a quick read through yesterday, but I'll look in more depth today.

I am looking forward for your thoughts on them

Apologies I didn't get to this today, I plan on giving this game some time when I wake up tomorrow.

[Gimli]

I’m not fully V/LA or anything but activity level over the next 2 1/2 days will be greatly reduced as I’m starting my insane work hours as per every weekend. I’ll still be around though.

I have three Qs

what's your read on me, did it change anything since the last time you were deadset on me being scum?

what's your current read on ming?

would you fade ming this gameday?

My read didn’t change. I feel pretty solid about it.

I’m confused by ming but I am not scumreading him currently. I would say very very slight townread.

I don’t think I would unless it was the only option which I don’t believe it is.

why am I scum?

what's confusing about ming?

[JacksonVirgo]

Ooo exciting that I’m being wagoned now, never would have thought I’d see the day

[JacksonVirgo]

Spoiler: My Defense

[halfasleep]

cool

[JacksonVirgo]

cool

I know I am

[halfasleep]

you said i was based last time :(

[JacksonVirgo]

you said i was based last time

You’re still based don’t worry

[halfasleep]

you said i was based last time

You’re still based don’t worry

[KayJayQueue]

what's confusing about ming?

Ming’s latest contributions are just odd. Referred to Black as the player instead of Gimli. Still don’t understand his 30 second self vote. Doesn’t seem very engaged. Doesn’t seem to have substantial reasoning for his town reads. He said he’d come back in a few days and I’m still waiting on that because if his latest post is his update…still no solid reasoning behind his town reads and no actual scumreads. (besides saying halfasleep is analytic a few days ago and saying Black-slot was misunderstood during an argument also a few days ago. If that’s all we’re going to get, okay I guess but I’d preferred some updated reads)

[Gimli]

what's confusing about ming?

Ming’s latest contributions are just odd. Referred to Black as the player instead of Gimli. Still don’t understand his 30 second self vote. Doesn’t seem very engaged. Doesn’t seem to have substantial reasoning for his town reads. He said he’d come back in a few days and I’m still waiting on that because if his latest post is his update…still no solid reasoning behind his town reads and no actual scumreads. (besides saying halfasleep is analytic a few days ago and saying Black-slot was misunderstood during an argument also a few days ago. If that’s all we’re going to get, okay I guess but I’d preferred some updated reads)

alright

can you try to engage with my case on how ming could be scum? only fireisred did that unfortunately

[KayJayQueue]

If it’s a post can you please link it for me, I’m sorry I’m really lacking time the next couple days.

[halfasleep]

If it’s a post can you please link it for me, I’m sorry I’m really lacking time the next couple days.

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[Gimli]

If it’s a post can you please link it for me, I’m sorry I’m really lacking time the next couple days.

so, the post halfasleep linked to you, and also my replies to fireisred, which I think summarize it well.

I'll also ask again for you to elaborate your scumread on me in a way I can understand. there's a massive difference right now between the strength of your scumread and any argument you actually presented for scumreading me. I do not care about how you were reading black, although if you wanna start with that, it's fine by me. but I wanna know how my posts made you scumread my slot even further.

even though I TR you right now, both your scumread on my slot and the townread on virgo are red flags. the townread on virgo is so slimy from both directions that everyone that's looking into it (with the exception of fireisred, even though he is voting virgo) thinks one of you has to be scum. but your recent posting to virgo is just alarming, there's no substance behind your TR on him and now that I know you have outside game friendship, I think there's a very good chance you're the pocketeer and not the pocketed.