Open 906: AAAAAAHHHH I Ran out of Game Names!!! [Game Over]

[halfasleep]

Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?

do you have any examples of this?

[JacksonVirgo]

Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?

I think if you expand on it, I can answer. Im not sure I understand what you're suggesting

I believe they’ve recently only done things to make the dissonance within the town stronger, which would imply that you’re town which is why I’m so interested in this thought. Their activity had dipped substantially which considering the “my side” (me, Jake, Kay) I believe is all town and then you existing, if you’re also town there’s a pretty substantial chance it’s fire here just watching town fight against town, throwing gasoline on the fire when necessary to keep it lit

[JacksonVirgo]

Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?

do you have any examples of this?

I’m dealing with a bad headache so direct examples will have to wait, if you look at their recent posting it’s all seeming like they just want to keep the split as it is. Can you read a little bit of their iso and tell me if you can see that as well, genuinely curious if this is a thought worth building on more.

[JacksonVirgo]

@Kay, can you give me thoughts on Fire?

[Gimli]

Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?

I think if you expand on it, I can answer. Im not sure I understand what you're suggesting

I believe they’ve recently only done things to make the dissonance within the town stronger, which would imply that you’re town which is why I’m so interested in this thought. Their activity had dipped substantially which considering the “my side” (me, Jake, Kay) I believe is all town and then you existing, if you’re also town there’s a pretty substantial chance it’s fire here just watching town fight against town, throwing gasoline on the fire when necessary to keep it lit

he's been consistently townreading me. consider what it means to him that you appeared so deadset in your tunnel on my slot.

there's also a substantial chance - regardless of whether fire is scum or not - that ming is scum. he fits a team with fire, which would be your POV, and he fits a team with KJQ, which would be my POV. both players kind of refused to go there, and fire was particularly townreading a somewhat scummy post ming made that I tried breaking down to him a few pages ago.

[JacksonVirgo]

Townreading you doesn’t make him town

[JacksonVirgo]

I don’t like settling on consolidation wagons when I’m only just putting my toes in the water in a push that isn’t you

[halfasleep]

ok so upfront i'm slightly townleaning fire atm so take my iso reading with a grain of salt. im gonna do my best to play objective observer but some bias is probably inevitable.
that said the first post that jumps out to me here is this 'just out of RVS' post:

its been a while since ive played with a list where im unfamiliar with most of the players

ive forgotten how to read people without meta knowledge

that easily reads as totally innocuous but hypothetically could be setting up a basis for a hands-off playstyle that might be convenient for scum-fire.

ok i'mma keep reading that was just the first thing that struck me even if it's more than likely to be a nothingburger

[JacksonVirgo]

I appreciate you giving it the time of day, I am already aware fire is gonna be someone difficult to catch as a wolf so I didn’t start this expecting an easy time

[Gimli]

halfasleep
JacksonVirgo

Jake The Wolfie
KayJayQueue

Purplemango

Thomith

fireisredsir

awesomeming327

I am crossing halfasleep and fireisred and jacksonvirgo harder than I'm crossing mango. with mango he just feels pure and I think this is the best we're gonna get out of him in this game. considering the other town game I read, mango just isn't the guy that's gonna come here and post anything that will make anyone go 'oh this is definitely a townie'. but I'll be surprised if this player can replicate his town game so perfectly when scum. he'd do SOMETHING different, so I don't think this is it.

I'm uncrossing thomith because fire isn't crossing jupiter. as they're close to each other I'll trust fire that this isn't a cross atm.

I'm uncrossing jake while maintaining that his self vote and reactions were extremely towny of him.

my team is awesomeming and KJQ atm, and I suggest we flip ming, especially because there's a good chance I've created some bias against KJQ given everything that happened in these last few pages.

so that's my updated readslist.

[Gimli]

Townreading you doesn’t make him town

thats not what I said. I said his consistent townread on me, when he is a townie, makes you look bad on his eyes, probably. he even told you this directly.

[JacksonVirgo]

Townreading you doesn’t make him town

thats not what I said. I said his consistent townread on me, when he is a townie, makes you look bad on his eyes, probably. he even told you this directly.

I know what read he’s digging his feet into, he also seeded reasons to scumread you indirectly

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't mind if we take our time with this game as this is probably the hardest game I've played this year

this is kind of a wild statement lol

This post in particular

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m not saying it’s potent, he’s a good wolf it’s going to be subtle.

[halfasleep]

Townreading you doesn’t make him town

i think this is a little uncharitable to what gimli actually said there: if i read it right it's more that he's saying that fire's professed townread on him (gimli) makes their (fire's) scumread on you and general postitioning in the gamestate consistent with a town-fire read.

(oh you already said it while i was typing, well screw it submit anyway)

[Gimli]

I don't mind if we take our time with this game as this is probably the hardest game I've played this year

this is kind of a wild statement lol

This post in particular

ugh I don't think he meant anything AI by it

[JacksonVirgo]

Yeah I misread it, my bad

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't mind if we take our time with this game as this is probably the hardest game I've played this year

this is kind of a wild statement lol

This post in particular

ugh I don't think he meant anything AI by it

Ugh?

[JacksonVirgo]

I know you town-read him, suspend that bias and look at it with a particular mindset. Tell me what you see.

[JacksonVirgo]

He’s generally acting townie, I’m aware.

[JacksonVirgo]

But deeper like reaching into a lucky dip. Gotta get the good stuff under the surface

[JacksonVirgo]

That’s what I’m attempting to do

[halfasleep]

ok, notable that fire's first jackson scumreads do come well before any townreading of the black/gimli slot - beyond a general statement on 'townleaning everyone else' - which does put some fly in the ointment gimli and i were making just above.
first direct mention of black comes here:

don't really have strong reads anywhere

lean town: ming, jupiter, halfasleep

nullish/conflicted: black, purple, jv

eh: kay

scummy: jake

where she and jackson are sharing space in the null-tier (she'd pulled back on scumreading jackson a little bit earlier at this point)

[halfasleep]

first (and only, at least prior to the post i quoted above) interaction with black was a bit earlier:

i think ming feels towny

I wanted to say it feels like TvT but I was worried someone would call me scummy for it

i think it probably is yeah

where the main agenda is the ming townread - not visibly trying to glean anything about black at this time.

[halfasleep]

(worth noting this is from a stage in the thread where black was kinda being ignored by the whole playerlist so not having much interaction with her isn't really a unique quality to fire)