do you have any examples of this?In post 1145, JacksonVirgo wrote: Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?
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I believe they’ve recently only done things to make the dissonance within the town stronger, which would imply that you’re town which is why I’m so interested in this thought. Their activity had dipped substantially which considering the “my side” (me, Jake, Kay) I believe is all town and then you existing, if you’re also town there’s a pretty substantial chance it’s fire here just watching town fight against town, throwing gasoline on the fire when necessary to keep it litIn post 1147, Gimli wrote:
I think if you expand on it, I can answer. Im not sure I understand what you're suggestingIn post 1145, JacksonVirgo wrote: Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?-
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I’m dealing with a bad headache so direct examples will have to wait, if you look at their recent posting it’s all seeming like they just want to keep the split as it is. Can you read a little bit of their iso and tell me if you can see that as well, genuinely curious if this is a thought worth building on more.In post 1150, halfasleep wrote:
do you have any examples of this?In post 1145, JacksonVirgo wrote: Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?-
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@Kay, can you give me thoughts on Fire?-
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he's been consistently townreading me. consider what it means to him that you appeared so deadset in your tunnel on my slot.In post 1151, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I believe they’ve recently only done things to make the dissonance within the town stronger, which would imply that you’re town which is why I’m so interested in this thought. Their activity had dipped substantially which considering the “my side” (me, Jake, Kay) I believe is all town and then you existing, if you’re also town there’s a pretty substantial chance it’s fire here just watching town fight against town, throwing gasoline on the fire when necessary to keep it litIn post 1147, Gimli wrote:
I think if you expand on it, I can answer. Im not sure I understand what you're suggestingIn post 1145, JacksonVirgo wrote: Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?
there's also a substantial chance - regardless of whether fire is scum or not - that ming is scum. he fits a team with fire, which would be your POV, and he fits a team with KJQ, which would be my POV. both players kind of refused to go there, and fire was particularly townreading a somewhat scummy post ming made that I tried breaking down to him a few pages ago.I'll tie your legs
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Townreading you doesn’t make him town-
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I don’t like settling on consolidation wagons when I’m only just putting my toes in the water in a push that isn’t you-
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ok so upfront i'm slightly townleaning fire atm so take my iso reading with a grain of salt. im gonna do my best to play objective observer but some bias is probably inevitable.
that said the first post that jumps out to me here is this 'just out of RVS' post:
that easily reads as totally innocuous but hypothetically could be setting up a basis for a hands-off playstyle that might be convenient for scum-fire.In post 159, fireisredsir wrote: its been a while since ive played with a list where im unfamiliar with most of the players
ive forgotten how to read people without meta knowledge
ok i'mma keep reading that was just the first thing that struck me even if it's more than likely to be a nothingburgerAn optimist would say that I'm half-awake.-
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I appreciate you giving it the time of day, I am already aware fire is gonna be someone difficult to catch as a wolf so I didn’t start this expecting an easy time-
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I am crossing halfasleep and fireisred and jacksonvirgo harder than I'm crossing mango. with mango he just feels pure and I think this is the best we're gonna get out of him in this game. considering the other town game I read, mango just isn't the guy that's gonna come here and post anything that will make anyone go 'oh this is definitely a townie'. but I'll be surprised if this player can replicate his town game so perfectly when scum. he'd do SOMETHING different, so I don't think this is it.
I'm uncrossing thomith because fire isn't crossing jupiter. as they're close to each other I'll trust fire that this isn't a cross atm.
I'm uncrossing jake while maintaining that his self vote and reactions were extremely towny of him.
my team is awesomeming and KJQ atm, and I suggest we flip ming, especially because there's a good chance I've created some bias against KJQ given everything that happened in these last few pages.
so that's my updated readslist.I'll tie your legs
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thats not what I said. I said his consistent townread on me, when he is a townie, makes you look bad on his eyes, probably. he even told you this directly.In post 1155, JacksonVirgo wrote: Townreading you doesn’t make him townI'll tie your legs
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I know what read he’s digging his feet into, he also seeded reasons to scumread you indirectlyIn post 1160, Gimli wrote:
thats not what I said. I said his consistent townread on me, when he is a townie, makes you look bad on his eyes, probably. he even told you this directly.In post 1155, JacksonVirgo wrote: Townreading you doesn’t make him town-
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This post in particularIn post 1064, fireisredsir wrote:
this is kind of a wild statement lolIn post 1063, Gimli wrote: I don't mind if we take our time with this game as this is probably the hardest game I've played this year-
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I’m not saying it’s potent, he’s a good wolf it’s going to be subtle.-
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i think this is a little uncharitable to what gimli actually said there: if i read it right it's more that he's saying that fire's professed townread on him (gimli) makes their (fire's) scumread on you and general postitioning in the gamestate consistent with a town-fire read.In post 1155, JacksonVirgo wrote: Townreading you doesn’t make him town
(oh you already said it while i was typing, well screw it submit anyway)An optimist would say that I'm half-awake.-
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ugh I don't think he meant anything AI by itIn post 1162, JacksonVirgo wrote:
This post in particularIn post 1064, fireisredsir wrote:
this is kind of a wild statement lolIn post 1063, Gimli wrote: I don't mind if we take our time with this game as this is probably the hardest game I've played this yearI'll tie your legs
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Yeah I misread it, my bad-
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Ugh?In post 1165, Gimli wrote:
ugh I don't think he meant anything AI by itIn post 1162, JacksonVirgo wrote:
This post in particularIn post 1064, fireisredsir wrote:
this is kind of a wild statement lolIn post 1063, Gimli wrote: I don't mind if we take our time with this game as this is probably the hardest game I've played this year-
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I know you town-read him, suspend that bias and look at it with a particular mindset. Tell me what you see.-
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He’s generally acting townie, I’m aware.-
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But deeper like reaching into a lucky dip. Gotta get the good stuff under the surface-
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That’s what I’m attempting to do-
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ok, notable that fire's first jackson scumreads do come well before any townreading of the black/gimli slot - beyond a general statement on 'townleaning everyone else' - which does put some fly in the ointment gimli and i were making just above.
first direct mention of black comes here:
where she and jackson are sharing space in the null-tier (she'd pulled back on scumreading jackson a little bit earlier at this point)In post 621, fireisredsir wrote: don't really have strong reads anywhere
lean town: ming, jupiter, halfasleep
nullish/conflicted: black, purple, jv
eh: kay
scummy: jakeAn optimist would say that I'm half-awake.-
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first (and only, at least prior to the post i quoted above) interaction with black was a bit earlier:
where the main agenda is the ming townread - not visibly trying to glean anything about black at this time.In post 255, fireisredsir wrote:
i think it probably is yeahIn post 253, Black wrote:
I wanted to say it feels like TvT but I was worried someone would call me scummy for itIn post 251, fireisredsir wrote: i think ming feels townyAn optimist would say that I'm half-awake.-
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(worth noting this is from a stage in the thread where black was kinda being ignored by the whole playerlist so not having much interaction with her isn't really a unique quality to fire)An optimist would say that I'm half-awake.
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