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[SmileyDude1]

WE TOPPING THE PAGES WITH THIS ONE!

[SmileyDude1]

and would you look at that it's midnight where i'm at now,

drifting into sleep mode, catch you later

[KayJayQueue]

I think the solve is within Brian/smiley/Titus/yessiree/greeting

But don’t worry, I’m usually wrong.

[Greeting]

I do think

Brian Skies

and

Political Clout

are both town.

[Greeting]

Unfortunately, I do not have time to contribute any more for now. I will try to pop in before end of day.

[Political Clout]

let's post our reads and then go from there. If scum are on the wagon then whom is it most likely to be. I really like my vote though. Brains progression to me seems constantly trying to change what was said.

[Titus]

Ok, so read over the game in 460 and Brian feels somewhat similar to here I think. It feels like their rate of generating reads felt the same in both games, though I felt in the linked game Brian was generally more adaptive with his reads than what I've seen from them here so far. I did see instances in the link where Brian was pretty confrontational so I can see how Yes came to that read.

I guess my thing is I'm currently scumreading Brian due to them having an illogical progression from a town perspective imo, and I didn't really see anything in that game that points to that being natural or reasonable for town!Brian.

This is tough because I think I mainly scumread Brian off play and I don't think meta is going to be of much help in that instance. Thing is some of their behavior doesn't vibe with what I would expect scum to do in spots and I can see some similarities with their town game. There's a part of me that thinks I might be hard tunneled or putting too much focus in the wrong thing, though it is the scumread I feel most confident about by a large margin right now.

I'm probably going to try to take another look at some other people sometime tomorrow and see if I can get to a similar level of confidence there.

Illogical perspectives tend to be town, unless consistently in favor of scum or bussing randomly.

[Titus]

Here's an idea, speed wagon Greeting.

[Political Clout]

Town
smileydude1 - save us oh glorious leader
titus - I don't think titus ever says what titus said as town
lean town
straightflush - clear attempts at continous sorting
hu tao - this is a gut read
randomnurse - not reading the thread so probably town happened last game
penguin power - While mostly memey iso I think I vibe with their posts
null
kayjayqueue - read through again not satisfied with my town read on kay
dave - kept vote on me forever and doesn't have any thread progression I'm fine with a lim here if we don't want brian
greeting - I agree with whoever said that their was definitely enough to make at least a gut read on me or brian I think they said later we were both town maybe when they explain their read we'll see
lean scum
blackstar - could be paired with yessiree here when blackstar voted rn
yessiree - says I claimed but voted me
scum
brian - the hyperposting to me when on vla plus the falling off and not sure about what to do and mostly waiting for others to advance the game. I think smiley can convince me brian is town. The overall progression of their interaction with me I think is scum sided oh this is what I actually mean or I said this but it was meant for the entire thread or the pc is rolefishing thats actually why I voted them and not because of wagon reasons. I could be confbias after all this became a mountain after a basic sus accusation and brian spewing all over the thread. am I tunneled? maybe. will I keep tunneling? yeah probably. But if we don't want brian I need to see a clear argument for town!brian

one thing that gives me a lot of pause is how the thread died it seems scum might be comfortable here. Let me think on it more. I might convince myself but I wanna hear what smiley has to say.

I'm also open to titus moving me from brian.

[Titus]

PC, did you make a typo on your read on me?

Why is your read on Brian based on V/LA? Feels a bit ick.

[Political Clout]

PC, did you make a typo on your read on me?

Why is your read on Brian based on V/LA? Feels a bit ick.

it might very well indeed be ick but they were vla and posted substantially in the thunderdome with me plus what was posted always needed some sort of going back and correction to what was actually meant I think smiley says it best in 269. no typo.

[Titus]

PC, did you make a typo on your read on me?

Why is your read on Brian based on V/LA? Feels a bit ick.

it might very well indeed be ick but they were vla and posted substantially in the thunderdome with me plus what was posted always needed some sort of going back and correction to what was actually meant I think smiley says it best in 269. no typo.

You called me town but said I don't say something as town

[Hu Tao]

We have a little under 2 days

[Political Clout]

PC, did you make a typo on your read on me?

Why is your read on Brian based on V/LA? Feels a bit ick.

it might very well indeed be ick but they were vla and posted substantially in the thunderdome with me plus what was posted always needed some sort of going back and correction to what was actually meant I think smiley says it best in 269. no typo.

You called me town but said I don't say something as town

yeah I moved on from that. plus I kept going through it back and forth in my head about post density vs what titus!scum every say let's not kill brian because z and then I branched that out to what anyone ever as scum give the same reason as titus for not voting someone I don't think so.

[SmileyDude1]

-SNIP-

one thing that gives me a lot of pause is how the thread died it seems scum might be comfortable here. Let me think on it more. I might convince myself but I wanna hear what smiley has to say.

I'm also open to titus moving me from brian.

That point does seem fairly prescient, and I would agree that the game's slowed down a bit. I'm not sure if it's more a sign of entrenched viewpoints or scum content with the gamestate and that's worrying to say the least.

I think given the gamestate we're likely either in a scumBrian/ Town! PC world or in the world where there both just town. I feel like i've probs been the person most aggressive in terms of pushing here, and I think in a Scum!PC/ Town Brian world PC's buddies likely just sheep me onto Brian. I'd say the wagon actually has decompressed a bit since it's peak which doesn't feel like it happens if PC scum here unless both buddies were on the wagon already necessitating exactly PC/Blackstar/Kay solve which I don't really see here.

[SmileyDude1]

Here's an idea, speed wagon Greeting.

So i've reread Greeting while at work and I think i'm Ok with trying this out.


Looking back I noticed some weird idiosyncracies in their play such as their readlist in 225 having Blackstar at the bottom when there seemed to be no indication of suspicion there besides what I presumed to be an RVS vote and their 333 which feels like a weird perspective given that myself and Straight (refer back to their readlist) were on the wagon at that time,


Kind of agree with your point that in the world where Brian/PC is town vs town, it makes sense for scum to waffle on making a decision there. Was initially unsure given they advocated a Random Nurse wagon, due to my opinion that this seemed like a dangerous play to make considering it risks diverting away from Brian/PC which would be bad for scum if they're both town. Though upon rereading again I realized that it didn't come organically, it came after Kay pressed them in their 334 and wasn't really expanded upon after their initial vote there.

Wouldn't say i'm confident, but there's enough there that inspires doubt that I'm willing to see where this goes

VOTE: Greeting

[StraightFlush]

VOTE: Greeting

[BlackStar]

VOTE: Greeting

[Gypyx]

1.10

this VC needs to be fixed, it is currently not accurate

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greeting (7) :

Titus / StraightFlush / BlackStar / PenguinPower / Davesaz / SmileyDude1 / yessiree

Political Clout (2) :

Brian Skies / yessiree

Brian Skies (1) :

Political Clout

Random Nurse (1) :

Greeting

StraightFlush (1) :

Hu Tao

Titus (1) :

KayJayQueue

Not Voting (1) :

Random Nurse

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone, day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-25 13:02:46)

vote history

PenguinPower :

yessiree (8) -> Brian Skies (29) -> Random Nurse (118) -> Political Clout (284) -> KayJayQueue (405) -> Random Nurse (415) -> Greeting (495)

yessiree :

PenguinPower (9) -> Political Clout (82) -> Hu Tao (121) -> Political Clout (316) -> Greeting (547)

Davesaz :

greeting (13) -> Political Clout (76) -> Greeting (523)

BlackStar :

Political Clout (18) -> Unvote(52) -> Random Nurse (90) -> Brian Skies (250) -> Greeting (492)

KayJayQueue :

Brian Skies (22) -> Titus (95) -> Brian Skies (271) -> Titus (540)

Political Clout :

Politicial Clout (26) -> Brian Skies (151)

SmileyDude1 :

Brian Skies (27) -> Unvote (91) -> Davesaz (92) -> Unvote (256) -> Brian Skies (269) -> Greeting (490) -> Unvote (527) -> Greeting (538)

Greeting :

BlackStar (70) -> Unvote (332) -> Random Nurse (335)

Brian Skies :

Political Clout (83)

TItus :

Random Nurse (94) -> Political Clout (285) -> Greeting (422)

StraightFlush :

yessiree (124) -> Brian Skies (216) -> Unvote (400) -> Greeting (491)

Hu Tao :

yessiree (128) -> Brian Skies (419) -> Unvote (420) -> StraightFlush (421)

mod notes

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[Titus]

I do think

Brian Skies

and

Political Clout

are both town.

Why?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: greeting

[yessiree]

Straightflush/yessireee prob has at least 1 scum

Okay I'm going back to my read of Brian might be scum if Yessir is town. So I'm OK with voting out Brian

VOTE: brian

UNVOTE:

Actually nvm for now

this makes sense

It does. In my mind.

[yessiree]

the speed of the Greeting wagon makes me think he's probably not scum here

[PenguinPower]

Something something firebringer said.

[yessiree]

alright, you've convinced me