In post 2015, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:
I can't tell if Von truly not understanding how out of touch their choices are here is towny or wolfy.
Can you explain how our choices are out of touch
With the theory you've presented and stated in the thread, your choices of 2 people you mostly townread or at least null make no sense at all. Even if we choose to believe everything else in what you've said. Like, you keep telling me to "read" but I am reading, multiple times.
I was prepared to let this go if the overwhelming motive for recruitment was based on wanting to talk to towny people over this possible whimsical theory based on no more than what we all can see, but some of the posting indicates leaning into it more than mere whimsical fantasy. Also clearly balance wise this would be overpowered, even a causal observer could figure that out. Offering this reason without vetting it is a rather unforced error though. I am tempted to declare this a wash
I think the way I revealed our theories is what is seeming confusing. Looking back on it now I mentioned the roleblocking theory first but that was a recent development made by me. The protective theory was the prevalent one
In post 2011, Ydrasse wrote:
i still feel that von panyes role is more elegant as a wolf one and i think the current conversation isn’t really doing a lot to dissuade that
i need to reread the flipped wolf role but it kind of feels like the power level in this game is wonky if it’s town idk
If we were scum why wouldn't we just flat out say our role has an extra protective and/or role blocking ability?
How would it benefit us, as scum, to talk about our theory of our role in the manner we have done?
Pre Edit: Ydra, it began simply when I was thinking about our role and the Bad Dreams.....nothing really to do with anything that happened in game.....but when Chipotle posted like they were thinking like I was thinking, made me feel that it was a real possibility
Pre Edit2: Kyo, I am going to call you Maria for the rest of the game lol(real Maria knows why)
i think that if you’re wolf you werent doing anything more than trying to make the illusion of solving and thinking about the game real by adding in like a passion or what have you to “figuring out the true mystery of my role” in a way that meshes with the actions you’ve taken
In post 2015, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:
I can't tell if Von truly not understanding how out of touch their choices are here is towny or wolfy.
Can you explain how our choices are out of touch
With the theory you've presented and stated in the thread, your choices of 2 people you mostly townread or at least null make no sense at all. Even if we choose to believe everything else in what you've said. Like, you keep telling me to "read" but I am reading, multiple times.
How does it make no sense to recruit people we townread if we think we might be able to protect them?
In post 1942, Von Payne wrote:
We think we can potentially prevent Bad Dreams from performing Night actions by forcing them to stay awake. Prism and Catgirls both expressed that they didn't want to be recruited. I had a tinfoil that maybe one of them could be scum trying to make sure they can utilize their ability by not being recruited
You say you did it for protection
but you also say this.
What one was it? Both?
Also if the roleblock theory was recent did that mean you went into the night assuming you were protecting Sunflower N1?
In post 2026, ActionDan wrote:
I was prepared to let this go if the overwhelming motive for recruitment was based on wanting to talk to towny people over this possible whimsical theory based on no more than what we all can see, but some of the posting indicates leaning into it more than mere whimsical fantasy. Also clearly balance wise this would be overpowered, even a causal observer could figure that out. Offering this reason without vetting it is a rather unforced error though. I am tempted to declare this a wash
I think we would have chosen to recruit townie people even if we weren't theorizing that we might be able to protect them
In post 1942, Von Payne wrote:
We think we can potentially prevent Bad Dreams from performing Night actions by forcing them to stay awake. Prism and Catgirls both expressed that they didn't want to be recruited. I had a tinfoil that maybe one of them could be scum trying to make sure they can utilize their ability by not being recruited
You say you did it for protection
but you also say this.
What one was it? Both?
Also if the roleblock theory was recent did that mean you went into the night assuming you were protecting Sunflower N1?
The fact that I am having to repeat myself here lets me know you're not reading my posts
idk the unfortunate aspect of this is that town can be this … This
but it’s hard to move past the fact two players who have been around for a while wouldn’t realize that role concealment is bastard maybe i expect too much of the average scummer to know this but… eh
In post 1942, Von Payne wrote:
We think we can potentially prevent Bad Dreams from performing Night actions by forcing them to stay awake. Prism and Catgirls both expressed that they didn't want to be recruited. I had a tinfoil that maybe one of them could be scum trying to make sure they can utilize their ability by not being recruited
You say you did it for protection
but you also say this.
What one was it? Both?
Also if the roleblock theory was recent did that mean you went into the night assuming you were protecting Sunflower N1?
The fact that I am having to repeat myself here lets me know you're not reading my posts
wrt Sunflower, we didn't assume we were protecting Sunflower but we thought it was a possibility
I am reading you've just contradicted yourself at least 6 times in the past 5 pages that I need you to state things cleary but this is the last thing I feel like arguing on.
In post 2038, Ydrasse wrote:
idk the unfortunate aspect of this is that town can be this … This
but it’s hard to move past the fact two players who have been around for a while wouldn’t realize that role concealment is bastard maybe i expect too much of the average scummer to know this but… eh
I get that but I also refer back to my earlier point of if this really is a scum fakeclaim it's extremely sloppy and I don't get why they went this route if it is.
I guess if you put both theories next to each other and ask what's more likely that makes it easier to answer though.
Shrug idk why I'm entertaining the idea of defending a slot who wants to just insult my reading comprehension every five seconds maybe I should just stop.
Yep. I confused myself because at one point we switched from discord to a hydra PT and the theory is one of the first things we talked about in the hydra PT, but Drew actually proposed it after we had already recruited Sunflower
In post 2042, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:
Shrug idk why I'm entertaining the idea of defending a slot who wants to just insult my reading comprehension every five seconds maybe I should just stop.
I'm sorry if you feel insulted. You were asking me questions that had already been asked and wanting explanations that I already provided
i mean wolf play isn’t always going to be perfect imo. sometimes a wolf goes ooh a chance to make it really seem like i’m a solving townie and then they add in a ton of details and little flairs that make them appear genuine. and then you have to add repairs when the flaws in your fake stories start to show
beyond this i do dislike the way von payne went “oh aureal and hu both need more” before progressing to develop a scumread on the latter, admitted to not really reading aureals posting and then coming out with a townread that vanishes only after the hider crumb stuff
(if i missed an important part of progression there that i need for context lmk i was ctrl f on me phone but that’s what i see it as)
In post 2045, Ydrasse wrote:
beyond this i do dislike the way von payne went “oh aureal and hu both need more” before progressing to develop a scumread on the latter, admitted to not really reading aureals posting and then coming out with a townread that vanishes only after the hider crumb stuff
I don't see how this couldn't come from town that is barely keeping up with the game
It explains why I skimmed over Aureal's posting initially. When I finally read them I townread them. Of course that's going to vanish once someone gets a guilty on her
