Open 909 | A Newbie Game | Game Over

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Hello hello, I'll be around the evening and catch up then

Been a minute since I played this setup lol

@dannflor vla on fridays/saturdays

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Hey I'm kind of like around and reading through during my commute home (but I imagine I won't finish; if not I'll continue later tonight)

While I'm doing that, anyone want to give me a tldr?

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I'm having some townpings on ketchup in the extended rvs thing; jacksonvirgo feels a little off to me tho

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I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

What didn'f you like abt them?

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Maybe dragon can be town

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I like dragon trying to move the game out of RVS quite a lot actually. That went on far too long

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HA also voted for 3 people before voting herself tho

Not sure how relevant this is but I did want to point out she self voted twice during the RVS period, once at the start and then again later.

My only solid read last night after reflecting on the thread was a townread on DE70 for trying to push out of RVS. I can get behind a halfasleep wagon but I just woke up and I'm not sure where the votes are at and don't want to put her in range of a hammer before she returns to give us content to work with.

I believe this to be a town post

Agreed

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Fair enuf, but that's the vibe i got reading it through after the fact, and I think trying to move out of it is +town

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Like I said, I believe I’m getting what I need from the vote.

What are you getting out of it

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VOTE: DragonEater70

How dare you cast your dragon voodoo magic on us

More >.>

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Ok i'm up to my own replace-in, going to finish reading through and share overall thoughts in a few hours

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Having just verified the meaning of the term threadspew (which basically means a situation where if everyone has a town read on someone that means they're probably town), I feel semi confident in declaring that ketchup is threadspewed as town. Not that it helps simce he was already obvtown, but like I'm now going to treat him as a third mason.

Eh not sure I agree with this threadspew approach but agree ketchup is likely town

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No shot dragon just softclaimed in early D1 with no prompt, please say sike. That's so dumb

1. Where did he softclaim
2. If you think this, why would you call that out?

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Like I said, I believe I’m getting what I need from the vote.

What are you getting out of it

What I need lol

Ok, can you share more please about thay?

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VOTE: DragonEater70

How dare you cast your dragon voodoo magic on us

More >.>

What is the meaning of this post?

>.> at more rvs
>.> at more dragon votes

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skitter and i have the same eyes

Hmmm?

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I'm having some townpings on ketchup in the extended rvs thing; jacksonvirgo feels a little off to me tho

What makes me feel off

The way you interacted with early RVS felt a little forced to me

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No shot dragon just softclaimed in early D1 with no prompt, please say sike. That's so dumb

1. Where did he softclaim
2. If you think this, why would you call that out?

1. Scroll up in literally the same page as that post and you’ll see it
2. Frankly no clue

Wasnt a real mason claim I'm pretty sure. Generally, if you see what you think is a soft, it isn't great to openly comment on it - if mafia hadn't noticed it, they definitely will have after you say something

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Hmmmmmm that seems circular but okay

Yeah it is, because Im purposefully dodging the question lol

You can only keep your intentions about this stuff to yourself for so long before it starts to get anti-town. I believe I mentioned the same thing to yessiree in that normal and the same applies here

It was to gauge reactions just like yours was. My vote just got more and now it’s to the point where I actually believe it’s a good vote so I’m keeping it where it is for now.

Ok thanks

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<.<

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VC 1.0

Don't Stop Me Now

Not Voting [9]:

KayJayQueue, halfasleep, ketchup777, Ydrasse, zachheus, JacksonVirgo, DragonEater70, Purplemango, StraightFlush

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-04-07 17:08:16).

Mod Notes:

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Ok i'm at like
Ketchup
Dragon

Purple/zach/ydra -> null
Kayjay/straight
Jackson

VOTE: jackson

I think ketchup has been obvtown as discussed
I really like dragon trying to move the game out of rvs + trying to get wagons moving, generally feels like a +town approach to me

Don't like jackson's back-and-forth with dragon, at all, and their rvs felt somewhat forced to me

I don't reallt like kayjay's ydra vote, and there was something else that pinged me that i have to go back and find

Straight is kind of ~around post-rvs but doesn't have so much content, and kept making meme votes, which i feel like is generally scummy positioning but tbh in this game maybe it isnt so bad, would like to see some content tho

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Given that this game is at like 27 pages there isnt a ton of content honestly

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Reading back it was primarly kay's interaction with ydra that pinged me

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i don't agree with any of your bottom 3 but ok

Ok, how are you reading them?

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i don't agree with any of your bottom 3 but ok

Ok, how are you reading them?

Kay top town, Jackson+Flush townleans

Can you talk a little more abt these, particularly jackson?

Also I didn't realize you were voting Dragon, I think he's town - can you talk abt why yoy're voting him?

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I think it was more meant in a ' hey, maybe it's time to reconsider some of your reads', but it could have maybe been said a little better

I think a lot of what dragon is getting voted for rn is more of a playstyle thing than him actually being scummy

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I think ketchup's been on dragon for a while, and he's kinda annoyed abt it so trying to get him to reassess/reconsider his reads in general

But yeah like i said could maybe be said a little better

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Dragon I also don't know if that's his playstyle tbh, I don't think he's abt to be writing lengthy cases on anyone

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Dragon what do u think of jackson?

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I think Dragon's trying to get ~something going, even if it's based on very little - i find that fairly townie actually

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He’s been overly obsessed with his own image, he’s been actively positioning himself while he has no discernible thoughts of his own and you expect me to consider that townie?

This game is like 3/4 fluff
I do think tryinf to get ~something going is townie
Even if it isn't based on a lot

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Hmm maybe the original reads on sleepy-slot weren’t crazy. It’s feeling like skitter is backing a town she thinks might be mislimmed because she knows he’s town. I just don’t see how she’s not seeing what we’re seeing and only seeing “town”. Which is not to say dragon can’t be town but to have no skepticism right now is odd.

I don't know what you're scumreading him for
He's behaving in a somewhat condescending fashion but that doesn't make him scum

Like what are you scumreading him for even

Pedit
No

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I still don't ger why you're voting ydra either

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Oh that game, i remember that!

I think you're town here, and don't really get the suspicion, so i'm stating that, yes

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I can vote straight also tbh

Pedit yeah ok
VOTE: straight

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I'm kinda vla on fridays/saturdays, I'll be back later in the weekend

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jacksonvirgo feels a little off to me tho

ditto. i assume he should be feeling uncomfortable about extending rvs as an experienced town player. so that makes me feel a bit hmm. meanwhile, there's more value to extending rvs as scum because you get to endear yourself to people without being alignment indicative.

Yeah that'a kind of what was pinging me

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And i'm not convinced the things they were pushing dragon for wete actually, like, scum indicative

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unless ydrasse fixed core issues with her playstyle, i lean towards her being town. as scum, her playfulness drains to zero.

i don’t actually know if this is the correct interpretation of my play so i’m curious what games it’s from

Eh I don't think it always works but sometimes it's a good way to read you

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I will trust HEM's meta read for now until I have a reason not to.

Who are your biggest scumreads rn
What do you think abt ur wagon?

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It very much added fuel to my skitter scumread, seeing how malleable she seemed to be with that request to join the SF vote.

I had already stated I wasn't townreading him

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I think straight's response to the wagon on him is +town

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I think HEM/Skitter/Ydra has a weird dynamic going on and I can’t place what it is and why I don’t like it

I too would like to hear more abt this dynamic

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purplemango's last post is really off, in that the reads feel like they have not been filtered through an uninformed perspective. there's a lack of confusion that is expected from noob town.

Yeah he feels very ~detached from the gamestate in a weird way and not really like he's solving tbh

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I literally just said I can’t place it, obviously I’ll start looking when I find the time and energy

i want you to succeed in articulating it

I didn’t check back posts, but I slept on this feeling and I think it’s coming from the fact you are all experienced and you/skitter seem to be pretty connected and I’m like not at all connecting with you. I’m experienced too and this separation doesn’t feel right, it feels off. I’ve at least narrowed the feeling to you and skitter.

I know that we aren’t inherently a good matchup for whatever reason. Something about how we both play makes me need to switch up a bit or I don’t play very well (referencing the frenemies game) so I’m hoping it’s that same thing here.

I don't think i've spoken or interacted with hem at all, so not sure where this is coming from (unless you're talking abt how me/dragon interacted)

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I actually might change onto purple for now, yet dragon really a scum suspect etoo. |(skitter kinda scummy by votes but I don’t have enough to go on yet). flushwagon still looks dodgy af
eh sure

VOTE: purple

I was trying to make the letters work to (fake? I’m not saying)crumb cop. first letters up to the |:
I am cop fn [first night?] ydrasse

was hoping slim chance scum might pick it up but I don’t wanna get voted out for a post I made that isn’t like my true thoughts

I don't think this comes from scum, like, ever

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I'm not vibing the flush wagon anymore

VOTE: jackson

Can you articulate why you're voting ketchup rn, and/or point me to a post where you explain it?

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I think he would have more of a reaction to getting wagoned if he were scum

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I'm not fully convinced, but i also don't especially know if he's scum either, and the wagon on him has dissipated, so i feel likei might as well vote elsewhere

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Fwiw yeah ^ it's a little annoying that if I look away for three hours there'a another 5 pages, usually most of if is fluff

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Yeah how dare new players be excited to play the game. It’s unfortunate you both repped into a newbie game if you’re going to get upset we’re not playing the way you want/expect. We are 9 different players, it’s quite possible we have 9 different playstyles. I’m sorry mine annoys you.

7/9 players have posted in the last 12 hours so it’s hard to say they’re not present, but they aren’t all adding information to the game. Now for 2 players, this is intentional because they don’t want us with info to help us solve. So the more pushback there is about moving the game forward, the more I think there’s an agenda to keep it stagnant.

And I’m not going to feel bad for expressing my opinions, even if you want to call it spam.

So I just want to clarify that I'm not trying to be a killjoy, and I wanf you to play the game in a way that is fun!

At the same time, I can't, and won't be as present as some other players here, and I'm finding it a bit challenging to sift through and find relevant content, and I imagine that some of the other players might feel the same way

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i still think jackson very town just misguided (on me)

Honestly they're pinging me a lot and I don't understand their approach to the game

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Eh I'm gonna revise my kayjay read to town, i also think the way hem is interacting with the fhread now is town

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So the theory that they’re likely wolf with skitter (if they’re wolf at all) holds some weight as it could justify that behaviour somewhat

maybe.

I feel scum!purplemango would be more self-conscious and post more. But idk

No? Why would you think this?

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I'm kinda thinking of voting for purplemango

Pedit hello hello

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i still think jackson very town just misguided (on me)

Honestly they're pinging me a lot and I don't understand their approach to the game

What’s my approach? Why do you consider not understanding means scummy?

The things you're focusing on seem kinda weird
Your town seems off
Dunno why you're scumreading ketchup

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Would anyone be interested im starting a purplemango wagon with me?

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VOTE: purple

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Ydra you aren't townreading ketchup?

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i still think jackson very town just misguided (on me)

Honestly they're pinging me a lot and I don't understand their approach to the game

What’s my approach? Why do you consider not understanding means scummy?

The things you're focusing on seem kinda weird
Your town seems off
Dunno why you're scumreading ketchup

Why is weird? Why is my town off? I’ve explained the ketchup read

You were finding things abt dragon scummy that I was kinda finding townie, and you're also scumreading one of my strongest townreads, so it kinda makes me feel like we're playing different games

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It's less different = scummy and more
I don't understand your thought process

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No

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i think im maybe leery from how fast everyone said he was town early on too because i didnt get there the same way

Were you ever townreading him

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A purple wagon starting after I give an in-depth analysis on him, yet no actual response to that post. So what prompted the purple vote specifically?

I've been saying i would vote him for a bit and don't feel like my jackson vote ia going anywhere rn, and the voting patterns are stagnating a bit

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There were a few times where i thought ketchup's posts were explicitly town, and i thought the elo matchups were particularly unlikely to come from scum

Also i feel like.i can track his thought process

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Ydra y r u townreading me

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Hmmmm

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>.>

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Kay how would you feel abt a mango vote?

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Kay how would you feel abt a mango vote?

I’d feel better about one if those wanting to and/or voting him would engage with my post dedicated to analyzing his ISO. At the moment, it looks to me like you are trying to get a wagon to start no matter who it is and that feels off to me. SF didn’t go anywhere, Jackson didn’t go anywhere, and I don’t see you having concrete reasons to vote these 3 so it feels moreso like you just want to vote anyone. It’s making me pay more attention to those you haven’t tried pushing at all.

Yeah, I'm kinda having a hard time getting ~into the game and I think part of that is that a lot of wagons are kinda stagnating. I'm trying to make something for myself to engage with that will hopefully produce results i can read

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Here’s my overview of

PurpleMango

in this game thus far:

His first few posts were fluff, joining in with the rest of us. NAI in any way.

His first seemingly serious posts are defending sleepy/skitter-slot: 308, 312, 314, 317, 320.

Moving the conversation onto someone else: 322.

Asking dragon about his sus on sleepy/skitter-slot: 328, 331, 337.

Being quite irresolute with his reads: 341, 342, 344, 347.

Makes a solid claim about reads in 439 but then walks it back immediately into uncertain territory with 441.

More ambiguity with 539.

First real reads in 985 but then gets slightly less sturdy with 1002 and 1003.

It feels like the willingness to vote skitter in 1005 is disingenuous distancing? (possibly)

Offers to expand on the one thing he seems most certain of in 1132, we shall see if that post ever comes to fruition.

My conclusion is that if he is scum, it seems very likely that it’s with skitter just from his ISO. But this is a tentative idea in my head.

Any and all comments, criticisms, and responses are quite welcome.

My issue with a lot of what he'a doing is that it doesn't seem like he has solid reads, but is kind of wiffle-waffle-y

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Yeah I feel a sense of bravado around jackson's votes that keeps pinging me but they also said somewhere that this is a purposeful playstyle choice so i'm trying not to read too much into that