Mini Normal 2334: trees (Day 6)

[Elements]

Bloop

[RationalMadman]

I can get strong PR reads from DP1 as Scum btw. I can't speak for others and won't clarify what the clues are because they're a combination of ways a typical player operates when PR that indicate they aren't VT. It is not my problem if Scum are less capable of it than me, I must assume apex competence and play to defeat that degree of competent scum team. You don't based optimised game moves on a flawed opponent.

You keep saying you're "so much better" than everyone yet haven't done anything to help the game state

And what exactly can be done to save it more than push for a fast NoElim? I am voting my most severe scumread who has done several things that indicate faking thought process and having ulterior motive, trying to rile another user up while pretending to be understanding etc.

I have not advocated and optimal path and confirmed to the less optimal one by risking the elimination of someone I scumread. I cannot possibly do more for the game state this early on into a closed setup.

[RationalMadman]

I have both*

Not I have not, was autocorrect.

[RationalMadman]

Why aren't you pointing the neuances out to help the rest of us to play on your level?

The nuances of reading PRs as scum? I have very good reason to hide that.

[RationalMadman]

Confirmed*

I will type on computer primarily from now on rest of DP. Phone keeps messing me up.

[RationalMadman]

Conformed***
It keeps changing it

[Elements]

Why aren't you pointing the neuances out to help the rest of us to play on your level?

The nuances of reading PRs as scum? I have very good reason to hide that.

The nuances you mentioned in the preface to your read list

[RationalMadman]

Why aren't you pointing the neuances out to help the rest of us to play on your level?

Also, I am being ridiculed for my high effort posts. Helping teach others how to play in such a toxic and/or ungrateful player base will only lead to more harassment of me and distraction from them reading others or telling authentically as scum Vs Town rather than seeing them at their worst.

[RationalMadman]

Why aren't you pointing the neuances out to help the rest of us to play on your level?

The nuances of reading PRs as scum? I have very good reason to hide that.

The nuances you mentioned in the preface to your read list

There are ways people say things, things they hyperfocus on in posts by others Vs not and more along those lines that show either that their primary motive is to grill people and use said grilling to build upon versus to get things out of people and merely let the replies sit there. Scum do a lot more of the latter and Town do a lot more of the former but this is over longer periods with more posts.

There are more nuances that show other things. Some things for person A are scummy for their psyche/approach while for person B are either Towny or a nulltell. You have to put together a personality like a jigsaw puzzle and see how over more posts as the game progresses the person seems to fit into a scum profile or Town. I don't owe you to explain more as I am told I am posting vomit tomlnthe eyes of sorts and don't want to waste effort on this game as it's clear to me the crowd is largely ot here for a proper tryhard game, only for a banter filled junk one, going soft at as to criticise me for the effort I put in as wasting their time (irony to the maximum).

I've explained enough.

[RationalMadman]

Not here for*

[RationalMadman]

Going so far as to*

[Elements]

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There are more nuances that show other things. Some things for person A are scummy for their psyche/approach while for person B are either Towny or a nulltell. You have to put together a personality like a jigsaw puzzle and see how over more posts as the game progresses the person seems to fit into a scum profile or Town. I don't owe you to explain more as I am told I am posting vomit tomlnthe eyes of sorts and don't want to waste effort on this game as it's clear to me the crowd is largely ot here for a proper tryhard game, only for a banter filled junk one, going soft at as to criticise me for the effort I put in as wasting their time (irony to the maximum).

I've explained enough.

How can you possibly know the specific personal nuances of a group of people you've never played with before?
I've been complaining about your obsession with no lims day 1.
I'd be more than happy for you to effort post about how you are reading specific players and the tells you think they have, I would welcome it. But all I'm getting back from you is "you don't deserve my views on the game because you're not playing correctly" which quite frankly is just making me think you don't have any are are just spouting nonsense.

[RationalMadman]

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There are more nuances that show other things. Some things for person A are scummy for their psyche/approach while for person B are either Towny or a nulltell. You have to put together a personality like a jigsaw puzzle and see how over more posts as the game progresses the person seems to fit into a scum profile or Town. I don't owe you to explain more as I am told I am posting vomit tomlnthe eyes of sorts and don't want to waste effort on this game as it's clear to me the crowd is largely ot here for a proper tryhard game, only for a banter filled junk one, going soft at as to criticise me for the effort I put in as wasting their time (irony to the maximum).

I've explained enough.

How can you possibly know the specific personal nuances of a group of people you've never played with before?
I've been complaining about your obsession with no lims day 1.
I'd be more than happy for you to effort post about how you are reading specific players and the tells you think they have, I would welcome it. But all I'm getting back from you is "you don't deserve my views on the game because you're not playing correctly" which quite frankly is just making me think you don't have any are are just spouting nonsense.

I literally explained it. I even explained 'non nuanced' something already contradictory about awesomeming's entry and scummy that just got worse the more I got from him. Vote with me or don't that's your choice.

[RationalMadman]

I can't see a 'town Awesomeming' attacking me with ridicule there rather than with exploring the very idea he said he'd prove wrong.

I also noticed that he was rapid to switch from saying I'm town to saying oops he's not a noob and isn't Town just like he tried to say the interaction with me and Kayjay is weird and then goes 'oh stop talking mafia theory you're wasting effort and it's annoying and it was the length of reply'. Absolutely nothing from Awesomeming seems Towny.

I am also less sure Nick Riviera is Town but what Nick Riviera does that I prefer is he never pretended to give a shit what I'm writing. There is a significant difference between that and pretending to read it later and combat it while failing to. Lazy town that don't want to read and like to ridicule is still townreadable it's to do with consistency. Awesomeming tries to appear friendly while trying to rile others up, pretends to defend others while laying the foundation to scumread them and then backs out of it when attacked. Everything about it is textbook scum behaviour, nothing about Awesomeming's series of activity this day phase reads as Town to me. I am either massively wrong or right on the money.

[Thomith]

I can't see a 'town Awesomeming' attacking me with ridicule there rather than with exploring the very idea he said he'd prove wrong.

I also noticed that he was rapid to switch from saying I'm town to saying oops he's not a noob and isn't Town just like he tried to say the interaction with me and Kayjay is weird and then goes 'oh stop talking mafia theory you're wasting effort and it's annoying and it was the length of reply'. Absolutely nothing from Awesomeming seems Towny.

I am also less sure Nick Riviera is Town but what Nick Riviera does that I prefer is he never pretended to give a shit what I'm writing. There is a significant difference between that and pretending to read it later and combat it while failing to. Lazy town that don't want to read and like to ridicule is still townreadable it's to do with consistency. Awesomeming tries to appear friendly while trying to rile others up, pretends to defend others while laying the foundation to scumread them and then backs out of it when attacked. Everything about it is textbook scum behaviour, nothing about Awesomeming's series of activity this day phase reads as Town to me. I am either massively wrong or right on the money.

If you were massively wrong, how would this change your reads/the direction you'd look to go in?

[SaltiestCactus23]

morning
was busy with some irl stuff over the weekend but ill read up and post today

[KayJayQueue]

@KayJay
I've just noticed you haven't moved your vote since page 13, is Hu now your biggest suspicion?

I have no suspicion on Hu currently. RVS vote just chilled a little too long I guess.

[Elements]

@KayJay
I've just noticed you haven't moved your vote since page 13, is Hu now your biggest suspicion?

I have no suspicion on Hu currently. RVS vote just chilled a little too long I guess.

Anyone you have enough suspicion of to vote?

[KayJayQueue]

@KayJay
I've just noticed you haven't moved your vote since page 13, is Hu now your biggest suspicion?

I have no suspicion on Hu currently. RVS vote just chilled a little too long I guess.

Anyone you have enough suspicion of to vote?

Honestly this RationalMadman stuff has been so distracting to me. It feels like it’s the sole focus of every page and I can’t get actual reads. I was trying to think of the best vote but honestly I just need to unvote and wait for more content that I feel can give me literally anything I feel confident about.

UNVOTE:

[KayJayQueue]

I kind of got turned off of the game when all the toxicity was flying.

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

VOTE: gibido

[Hu Tao]

I think elements may be town

I would tend to agree

No one I'd really standing out as a scumread so far I think this is the closest to one VOTE: salty

As much as I hate this non-committal play.....coming from you I think it kinda makes you town heh

who are you? Why do you know me so well! How did you know I was town

[Hu Tao]

holy shit i didnt even realize saltiest cactus was in this game????

UNVOTE: Thomith

VOTE: SaltiestCactus

We could say the same about you, bucko!

[Hu Tao]

Outing role DP1 for no reason is antitown as fuck. Anyone who is not disgusted at that is just as bad unless they scumread it instead of assuming Town outed.

Oberbaalysing wagons is nonsense. Town unvote scum during DP1 wagons all the time and vice versa for joining wagons on Town. This is why later votes mean far more especially in clear this person vs that person dynamics. There, voting analysis begins to matter more.

Side note, very weird choice of words for Kayjayqueue to say driving a bus since that is solely used for one scum betraying a partner. Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

This seems like an overreaction. But so much of an overreaction that it may not come from scum

No it's not. It doesn't warrant a modkill itself but I'd ban her from any of my games if I were a game mod here, for sure. That kind of play is vile and has no place in mafia.

What the fuck are you even on about here??

I died LMFAO

[Hu Tao]

@KayJay
I've just noticed you haven't moved your vote since page 13, is Hu now your biggest suspicion?

I have no suspicion on Hu currently. RVS vote just chilled a little too long I guess.

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